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Old 04-21-2001, 02:21 AM
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Where were you in 1988

and better yet, WHO has documented proof that their 1988 Camaro is neither a Sport Coupe or IROC...
Everything I've read says these were the only two options in 88', being a transition year and all.
Yet I've seen numerous posts from people saying they have 1988 RS's.
Can someone please show proof that I'm wrong.
I'm not saying I know everything, just that I haven't seen this anywhere.

Thank You....

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84' Z-28 Hood covered,
AND THE TIRES:
245/60-16 Firehawk SS20 on Firbird rim(1-passenger rear),
235/55-15 BF Goodrich's on CompTA's on Z28 rims(2-on front),
235/60-16 Pirelli P600 w/a curb check or 3 also on Firebird rim(1-drivers rear),
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Old 04-21-2001, 08:33 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Duffster:
and better yet, WHO has documented proof that their 1988 Camaro is neither a Sport Coupe or IROC...</font>
I'll try to set the record straight. Starting in 1987, the available models included the Sport Coupe (with and without the LT option), Z28 (with and without the IROC-Z option) and the RS in California only with very limited options and colors. Chevrolet felt the availability of four distinct Camaros was overkill so for 1988, the choices were reduced to two (three actually -- more in a minute). The two included the Sport Coupe which included rockers from the 1985 - 87 Z28 (and IROC-Z) and striping from the 1985 - 87 IROC-Z. The second available model was the IROC-Z, which "replaced" the 1987 Z28 with IROC-Z option. No more "Z28" even though the RPO code for the 1988 IROC-Z is Z28. Because the 1987 RS was a success in California, Chevrolet expanded it's availability to Florida. Based on a production number of 7,088 1988 RS's in California and Florida, Chevrolet made the decision to drop the Sport Coupe and replace it with the RS in 1989, making it the base Camaro.

Keep in mind that the 1987 and 1988 RS was not included in GM Camaro literature for those years. This is because this car was not available nationally.

This information is derived from several sources I have, including "Camaro, the Third Generation" and the Camaro White Book.

Duffster, I will also e-mail you a copy of the cover sheet of the official Chevrolet 1988 Camaro Ordering Information.



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I live in Cali, and therefore back then I not only saw alot of RS's, but drove a few as well. The initial idea to only offer a 6 I thought was stupid, and so I told someone important (who actually asked me about the car). Next thing ya know...

Yea, there are 88 RS camaros.

While we are on the subject, in December of 87 I got a rental while my Bird was in the body shop getting repaired (stupid old lady), which was a silver Camaro with a short basket handle style spoiler, and gfx. It had a V8, and the only thing I remember seeing on the car badging wise was Camaro. It was definitely not an RS or IROC. What was it? A sport coupe?
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Axle/Gears: 3.42 and 2.73
My 88 SC has the short wing and only Camaro badging. So I suspect it was a SC.

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BEAT DOWN HARD 88' Camaro Sport Coupe,
1978 Caprice Classic 305 motor havin'(WITH NO COMPUTER),Torker II intake, Edelbrock 1406,600cfm w/vacuum secondaries,Accel HEI Supercoil/Cap/Rotor Sparkin',84' 700R4 Tranny usin', 84' Z-28 Nose clip wearin',
84' Z-28 Hood covered,
AND THE TIRES:
245/60-16 Firehawk SS20 on Firbird rim(1-passenger rear),
235/55-15 BF Goodrich's on CompTA's on Z28 rims(2-on front),
235/60-16 Pirelli P600 w/a curb check or 3 also on Firebird rim(1-drivers rear),
REAR HATCH MASTER OF ALL!!!

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Old 04-21-2001, 11:18 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by madmax:
.... a silver Camaro with a short basket handle style spoiler, and gfx. It had a V8, and the only thing I remember seeing on the car badging wise was Camaro. It was definitely not an RS or IROC. What was it? A sport coupe?</font>
Yes. The 1988 was the only year for a Sport Coupe with ground effects and the "shortie" style rear wing (although some came with the traditional style as seen on Z28's/IROC-Z's). It also sports the 1985 - 87 IROC-Z striping. It is also the only year the "CAMARO" badging is seen on the ground effects.

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Willie, If I might add, the '87-88 RS Camaros were avalible in 3 states, California, Florida and Texas, they were only available in 3 colors Red, black and White, the difference between the RS in '87 and '88 compared to the '89 and up was that, you could order the 305 EFI V-8, the headlight pockets were body colored and the Z28/IROC 3 spoke leather wrapped steering wheel was not used in the '89-up RS's, also the body colored 5-spoke wheels were a interim addition in '89. I tried to order a white '89 in January 1989 with white colored wheels, all the dealers at that time said All I could get was silver wheels, I told them I saw a ad in People magazine with a White RS that had white wheels. they told me I could'nt get white wheels. I ended up buying a bright blue RS , about in March of '89 I start seeing rs's with body colored wheels. Chris
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Transmission: SMOOOOOOTH T-56/Auto. . .
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Thanks Chris, I had forgotten about the light pockets. Had known that tidbit
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Chris,

Thanks for the info. The only data I don't have is the 1987 RS production figure. Do you know how many were produced? The Camaro White Book states a total production of 137,760 units. This number includes 83,890 Sport Coupes, 263 Sport Coupe Convertibles, 52,863 Z28's and 744 Z28 Convertibles. Add these up and you get the 137,760. What I don't understand is why the RS was not included in the total production figure. Was it because it was not considered a "regular" production vehicle?

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it's in the blue book on page 99.. RS models were built in limited areas. 7,038 were sold

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Red Demon:
it's in the blue book on page 99.. RS models were built in limited areas. 7,038 were sold</font>
This is the 1988 production figure. How many 1987 RS's were built? Can't find this info anywhere.

Have you noticed no more non-tech posts on this topic? Please, do not post any more as they will be promptly deleted. Thanks.

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Willie, I have the production figures for the '87 RS, but I'm at my Aunts house using her computer so When I get home I'll check it out. '87 and '88 RS's carry a RPO of 1A1, the '89-92 used a Y86 rpo (I'm relying on memory but I think thats the rpo) The rs's were regular production cars, built at Van Nuys, they were built as a test for consumer reaction. I've actually seen only 2 of these cars, one was a '87 that was red, I saw it at a used car lot in 1990, I had the salesperson show me the old title, and it said the car was previously titled in Florida, the second was last year at a Chevrolet dealer in Northern Illinois, it was White, and although I did'nt see the SPID label, it appeared to be all original. the VIN showed it was a '88. Chris
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Thanks again Chris. I look forward to knowing how many RS's were built in 1987. I just don't know why they're not included in the total production figure for that year.

Here in Arizona, the 1987 and 1988 RS's are plentiful. Heck, we're only one state away from California and we get a LOT of transplanted Californians wanting to escape the smog and congestion.

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Willie, 6,618 '87 rs's were built, in '88 7,038 were built. Chris
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Hey Willie, while its not listed in any of the books, as I recall the '87 RS was also available in Arizona. I remember seeing a red one at one dealership there in Tucson (not O'Reilly, one closer to downtown, can't remember name)in the spring of '87. My memory says it was a new car with window sticker, but that is a long time ago so I'm not positive.
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