Why does this nose look different?
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Why does this nose look different?
I saw a camaro around town with a front end that had horizontal slots in it. I did some image searching on google and found a picture of what it looks like.
Is this nose on certain years of car or certain trim levels? How many different front noses are there? Is there a good site that goes into detail on the different changes year to year? No real reason, I am just curious. Thanks.
Is this nose on certain years of car or certain trim levels? How many different front noses are there? Is there a good site that goes into detail on the different changes year to year? No real reason, I am just curious. Thanks.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
It's actually the Sport Coupe bumper just an older model 82-84 as stated above, the 85-87 had smaller slits then in 88 when the ground effects were added they went away totally.
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thats the sport coupe nose, all sport coupes from 82-87 had that nose, as well as the LT and berlinettas(thou i have seen them with a solid nose, not sure if this is modified or not.)
but anyways, all cars from 82-87 except the z28 or iroc came with this nose(or if you happen to have a 87 rs) that particular one is a 82-84, 85-87 they got a bit smaller and less defined.
as far as how many noses their are you can take it one of two ways
theres the z28 nose(solid) and the lower model which is slotted or if you realy want a break down
82-84 z28
82-84 sport coupe and ber's
85-87 sport coupe, lt and ber's
85-89 z28 and iroc,(also used on the 88 sport coupe and rs's)
90-92 Z28 and RS (the bumper itself was the same as 85-89 but different ground effects on it
i think thats it, someone else may be able to throw another in as im not sure about the solid bumpers on sport coupes and bers in the early 80's if they were moedified or z bumpers with the ground effects.
sorry had two messed up on start dates fixed now
but anyways, all cars from 82-87 except the z28 or iroc came with this nose(or if you happen to have a 87 rs) that particular one is a 82-84, 85-87 they got a bit smaller and less defined.
as far as how many noses their are you can take it one of two ways
theres the z28 nose(solid) and the lower model which is slotted or if you realy want a break down
82-84 z28
82-84 sport coupe and ber's
85-87 sport coupe, lt and ber's
85-89 z28 and iroc,(also used on the 88 sport coupe and rs's)
90-92 Z28 and RS (the bumper itself was the same as 85-89 but different ground effects on it
i think thats it, someone else may be able to throw another in as im not sure about the solid bumpers on sport coupes and bers in the early 80's if they were moedified or z bumpers with the ground effects.
sorry had two messed up on start dates fixed now
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Yalls post were very informative. Now I know a little more about my favorite cars. Thanks.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
82-84 Z28
82-84 non-Z28 (larger slits)
85-87 LT, SC and Berlinetta (smaller slits)
85-92 IROC-Z and Z28 (87-92 RS, 88 Sport Coupe)
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
ALso on the SC/ber/lt the 85-87 blinkers in the bumper were further forward than the 82-84.
On the 91 & 92 Camaros the lower piece below the center opening is different, if you look at an 87 in Scotts picture the area below the fog lights has a small rounded area. In 91 & 92 the rounded area is larger.. I know on the Trans Am the piece I believe is molded into the bumper I would assume that the ground effects piece on the Camaro is also part of the bumper.
Also I thought the Z28 from 82-84 the slits were below the opening where the SC/berl the slits were above the opening...
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On the 91 & 92 Camaros the lower piece below the center opening is different, if you look at an 87 in Scotts picture the area below the fog lights has a small rounded area. In 91 & 92 the rounded area is larger.. I know on the Trans Am the piece I believe is molded into the bumper I would assume that the ground effects piece on the Camaro is also part of the bumper.
Also I thought the Z28 from 82-84 the slits were below the opening where the SC/berl the slits were above the opening...
John
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Okfoz you're close on the '82-'84 Z28 nose.The opening slits are actually in the lower air dam which is a separate part from the bumper cover.The '82-'84 Z28's bumper grills are smaller than the ones used on the Sport Coupe/Berlinetta.And the Z28 used smoked front turn siganls,Berlinettas used clear with a center bar and Sport Coupes used amber lens version.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
I have two of those noses sitting in my garage that I have been trying to sell no one wants them lol.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Here are some scans from the 1982 Sales Brochure for the different front noses of the Camaros. The Blue Z28 is the only picture that does not have the car name in it. In the following post is a side view of all three noses....
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Ok Here is the side view of all three 1982 Camaro Noses. Note the the SC was the shortest, followed by the Berli, and the Z28 had the longest nose. Also note the differrent styles for the air dam under the front end.....
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
The nose piece was the same for all years and models I mentioned above. The lower ground effects have changed and do not follow the same the guidelines as John pointed out. The ground effects piece is a seperate piece from the nose, so don't confuse them.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
I was not aware that the lower piece was seperate... I have never owned a GFX front bumper personally, and my friend has an 86 TA where the lower air dam is molded into the bumper facia... I thought the camaro might the same.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Blue Z28 is the only picture that does not have the car name in it
Note the the SC was the shortest, followed by the Berli, and the Z28 had the longest nose
I was not aware that the lower piece was seperate...
I should not assume
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
Doesn't the Sport Coupe/Belinetta nose use a multiple piece lower air dam compared to the single piece unit the Z28 uses?And then Chevy changed the Z28's lower airdam in '85 for the redesigned nose/GFX.It's much deeper(taller) than the early,'82-'84,version to accomadate the new style GFX airdam.
And speaking of the Camaro plate the nose looks bare without it(expecially on light colored cars like mine).
And I suffer the assumption clause too - it's tough to resisit it.
And speaking of the Camaro plate the nose looks bare without it(expecially on light colored cars like mine).
And I suffer the assumption clause too - it's tough to resisit it.
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
The Z's used the one piece lower "facia" but had several plastic panels under the nose to direct air correctly. I recall 2 small square trim panels on each side and the center air dam as welll
The Coupe and Berlinettas from 82-84 used a L&R air dam that was mounted under the car and is practically invisible unless you look underneath. The 85-87 did too - but it's shaped different than the 82-84 style.
*** Your right - but I'm getting better at avioding it !!
P.S. My White 87 pictured by someone else above is a Coupe with Berlinetta wheels mounted. Now; It's been primered grey and has Z wheels !
The Coupe and Berlinettas from 82-84 used a L&R air dam that was mounted under the car and is practically invisible unless you look underneath. The 85-87 did too - but it's shaped different than the 82-84 style.
And I suffer the assumption clause too - it's tough to resisit it.
P.S. My White 87 pictured by someone else above is a Coupe with Berlinetta wheels mounted. Now; It's been primered grey and has Z wheels !
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
The '82-'84 Z8 lower facia/air dam has the vents but I'm not sure how useful they were at cooling.The lower air dam on these cars is shorter in height than the version used '85 up(due to deeper front facia/lower front facia air dam).The later version airdam is the only one available now as far as I've seen(it is a great improvement).It's no wonder the early cars had cooling problems even on the highway.And you're right there are two small panels that fit on either side of the lower air dam to force air into the radiator.
Maybe instead of assuming say possibly or could be...LOL
Maybe instead of assuming say possibly or could be...LOL
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Re: Why does this nose look different?
IMO I love the earler, 84 v4/v6 nose clips.
They look more pointy and more reminiscent of the second generation camaro.
I own a 92 with full ground effects and its nice but im Def putting the original 84 clip on my 84 projest car. I just like it better my self. But they are EXTREMELY hard to find. Every nose clip i find is a z28 or older model year with the chin on the bottom.
They look more pointy and more reminiscent of the second generation camaro.
I own a 92 with full ground effects and its nice but im Def putting the original 84 clip on my 84 projest car. I just like it better my self. But they are EXTREMELY hard to find. Every nose clip i find is a z28 or older model year with the chin on the bottom.
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