were these ever made? I've never seen one that wasn't two toned.

 

they all had black, gold, or silver GFX - my 82 t/a happens to be black GFX with 21 code light baby blue color originally

this goes for regular trans ams and the S/E's anyways


aero package equipped 84 t/a's were body color gfx probably though


but i am not sure since i have yet to see one IRL


apparently not very many were sold in IL or at all haha


hell i have the only/last 82 83 84 t/a in this town now

its funny/sad both

hell i dont even recall seeing an 85-90 bird either for months or longer now, hmmmm..


everythings been taken to the shredder in the last couple years

 

In 84 the ground effects where Black, Silver or gold, making the car two tone. only the base firebird was available single tone. the T/A and S/E where two tone.

 

but did they roll off the line two-toned or did dealers paint them?

 

The only monotone '82-84 Trans Am that I know of is the 1984 Recaro T/A. They were completely black with the same decal pin striping as the 15th Anniversary T/A but in gold.

 

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Like the others have said, the T/A's and S/E's all came in two tone.

If you look at the build plates sometimes you will see the trim code for the lower color stamped on it aswell as the upper color.

82-84 T/A's had either black or gold lower trim. 84 W62 cars had either black, silver, or gold trim.

S/E's had a much wider variety of color combo's.

(The exceptions being the 83 DT500, 15th, 84 Recaro...Also there are variations between the striping of the two 84's, its not identical)

 

So on the W-62's what dictated what there trim color was? I have a feeling the lower trim was a direct result of what interior color the 84 W-62 cars had. For instance I had one it was a red/gold 84 with tan interior but when I have seen 84's with with grey interiors they always had silver or black bottoms.

However this 84 W-62 carried the same body colors 75U 75L ....

Now my 82 trans am carries a 19L 19U code 64I interior ..... However I have seen the charcoal interior 82-83 trans am's also come with gold bottoms. So the non W-62 84's and 82-84 bottoms were dependent on what the body color was.

I'de like to here of a 82-84 owner that has a different lower paint code ... On there radiator support tag that differs from the upper color. I had thought my 82 was a single color trans am until I lifted the door sills and a section under both sides of them is gold as well. Doubtful a dealer would do that LOL ...

Now onto another 82-84 paint question .... And this one is sure to sound odd I realize 82-83 trans am's for instance had satin black mirrors and spoilers. Say a white and black one always had black spoiler and mirrors etc.

But why would a black and gold car also have that ... I remember my 82 when repainted it's spoiler and mirrors were satin black color and not gloss like the rest of the car and doubtful this was due to fading. So any other 82-83 T/A owners who had black/gold cars there mirrors and rear spoiler were like this? .... My 82 is a early built one from van nuys. My 84 was also a van nuys car.

 

From what I have heard, the satin black mirrors and spoiler were used until about half way through 83. I dont know if they were used on black cars, thats a good question. My guess is perhaps the mirrors and spoilers were painted satin black before installation.


As far as the 84 W62 colors...you are correct, there were certain color/ interior combinations that were and were not available depending on what colors you chose. I have a chart in my 84 dealer book explaining it.

According to the chart, a red W62 T/A with a tan interior would infact get gold gfx. If you had chosen a Charcoal interior, it would have gotten black gfx, and if you chose a Lt. Sand grey interior it would have gotten silver gfx.

If you remove the gfx of a W62 car, the lower body will be body color.

In regards to 84's w/o gfx... a chart shows that your available color combo's all had black or gold bottoms. White/black, Silver/black, Black/gold, Blue/black, Dk. Gold/gold, Red/black. Again some interiors were and were not available with certain exterior colors.

 

I’m not sure about the mirrors and spoiler being satin from the factory. I looked at all the original promo material I have and they look glossily, especially in the dealer promo video, I’m more inclined to think they faded over the years but anything could have changed during production and maybe they did leave the factory satin.

My blue 82 Trans Am had black mirrors and spoiler but were faded and peeling. My black 83 Trans Am again had fading paint. So there's no help there.

The paint codes on the trim tag are a bit misleading. When you see 19L 19U 64I, the upper and lower colors (in this case 19) are always the same for 82 and 83. So technically you can say that all Firebirds for 82 and 83 our monotone, technically. The body line that differentiates the upper and lower boundaries is the center of the door where the door guard trim would go and the colored area on the bottom is technically an accent color.

In 84 you could actually order a genuine two tone Firebird (not S/E or T/A) with a upper color of red for example and a lower color of silver. This lower silver color would start at the midpoint of the body and go down. Making the car in actual two tone paint job.

However, most people consider the Firebird to be two tone because the accent color is different in the body color.

 

upper and lower color codes are the same number when the vehicle is not two toned

my 82 t/a is 21L and 21U it is baby blue with black spoiler, lower body gfx and mirrors

they are technically not two toned, as per the RPO color body tag however

those who dont know much about body and trim body codes and paint codes tend to misunderstand things like this

these were factory painted like this


not dealer

pinstriping on the other hand was sometimes applied at dealerships

 

Here is the tag from my 1983 parts Car. Red/Red Brown Interior, Its a Trans Am as the VIN indicates it so AND the Tag matches the VIN.

Hope it helps...

 

And this was a red/black car correct?

I find this funny GM did this ... For instance my 82 vette carries a different upper paint code then the lower paint code. It was originally a white and silver car.

 

But wasn't the color split along the body crease, as opposed to the very lower portion of the body?

 

My Vette was painted pretty much just like the 78 vette indy pace cars paint style.

 

75U = Red Upper
75L = Red Lower

John

 

I realize I made a bit of a mistake when I mentioned the upper and lower codes on the build plate. Yes the upper and lower codes are there...

But when I was thinking of it I was thinking of the 83 DT500 cars... EDIT: See Simo's post below with regard to the DT500.

I cant seem to edit the older post.

 

thats a good point there

any car i see with the body tag stating the same color code number for upper and lower i consider to be not two toned

just is all there is to that



now we are restoring an 85 elky it is black all except the lower body is silver, the body tag is missing for some odd reason so i cant look to see if it is black upper and lower or black upper and silver lower, it is the SS model so that is why it is black primary and silver lower


but i bet it is probably black upper and lower technically

the paint changes out on the body not at the body line or at the body side bumper molding

so..


same deal as with these f body cars

 

The Daytona's used three paint codes.

11L - White
11U - White
82M - Midnight Sand Gray Metallic