I want to know how rare is my car? I know its not worth mutch but its nice to know how many twins it got.The car was bought brand new buy my father 23 years ago. So here are the details:
1987 Trans am GTA
Lb9 with T5 manual trans.
Factory a/c less
No t-top
ws6 suspension
Electric seats, windows and mirrors
White with gold interior

Thanks

 

I made a mistake i dont have power windows to..my dad order it even without a radio from the factory the dealer installed one at the delevery..i even remeber that i was like 4 lol

 

About as RARE as your question.....

 

unless its a 3.8 turbo, youre trans am is not rare, and never was.

 

hmmm ok nice hospitality...just wanted to know the production numbers..sorry to ask a question on a forum, witch you can or CAN NOT reply...

 

According to Frankie's website:
http://www.gtasourcepage.com/87RPOFigures.html

There was 9,481 GTAs in 1987. To know exactly how many cars came equipped like yours is information that currently is not available.

1987, which was the first year for the GTA, was a strange year for the GTA due to the way one could be ordered. You could actually get a "stripper" GTA in 1987 by having few options. But in 1988, and up through 1992, the GTA came with many features as standard equipped. So 1987 is a bit unique in that way.

You may have an usual GTA, even for 1987, as it doesn't have factory A/C. But I'm not an expert. I personally have not seen any GTA without A/C, but I know Frankie said it could be done in 1987.

 

Thanks that's what I wanted to know. I also found that they made 3,280 lb9/t5 in 1987. I have looked a the sales contract but could not find to option code. My father is a bit purist he always orders his car free off the most options...not For money but he like simplicity a bit like me =)

 

Well, I'll step up to the plate and say.... your GTA is pretty rare if it's equipped as you state.

The '87 GTA was an odd bird so to speak because as JT stated it could be dressed up or dressed down depending on the buyer's wishes. The actual option package included the following for 1987 only:

AQ9 Ultima seats - GTA Exterior Ornamentation - DD9 Power Paddle Mirrors (DG7 Mirrors After 01/26/87) - NP5 Leather Appt. Group - B2L 5.7 V8 - PW7 Gold Rims - QDZ 16" Tires - WS6 Special Performance Package - KC4 Engine Oil Cooler - J65 4 Wheel Disc Brakes (Except 5.0L/AOD Cars) - G80 Limited Slip Axle - B34 Front And Rear Floor Mats

And that's it.

Most popular options (and later standard equipment) were grouped into two separate packages - W61 and W63. But the car could be ordered without either one.

Certain codes had to be selected to get the vehicle you describe. C41 would have delivered the car sans A/C, while B6W and B6V would have dropped the PW and PDL respectively. UL5 would cause the car to be produced without a radio. The power mirrors would have come from the substitution of the DG7 mirrors after the DD9 paddle mirrors were dropped from production in January 1987.

Then there were Order Processing Options that could be selected as well: D60 Color And Trim Incompatibility Override - ZV1 Manufacturer Statement Of Origin - VC8 Substitution Or Deletion Authorization

I recently talked with Lou Wassel about these "stripper" cars just this past week.... and he expressed surprise that any of them survived all these years. But they are out there.... and definitely in the minority.

As for exact rarity of your car, it is impossible to tell at this point. GTA option production numbers were not kept separately for 1987 as they were for each succeeding year; the first year showed the numbers combined with regular Trans Am option production numbers.

 

il take better pics off the option thats on the car...and the car is bone stock never been tuched so i know its the way it was from the factory..i went to picked up with my father in oshawa (ontario).

 

Does it still have the RPO sheet in the console? Can you get a pic of it or maybe type out all the codes?

Sounds like a neat car either way...I wanna see pics.

J.

 

i just finished removing the entire interior so i will chek on that later today andd post pics off what i find

 

All you should have to do is open the console lid and look for a label. But in addition to the RPO sheet in the console, there may be a build sheet under the carpeting or under a seat cushion under the springs.

 

If your GTA is an original Canadian car, I'm starting to believe that just about anything was possible on those.

 

please help me decode this, I dont understand it at all

 

I have seen a nearly identical Canadian GTA to yours (including white). I don't know about the radio part of it, but it was featureless. Uncommon yes, but missing options generally won't add to the value of the car.

 

I must admit this would be the first GTA that I have seen without A/C... until now I thought it was one of those standard things...

John

 

If it didn't have AC on it wouldn't it be a 1LE GTA?

 

What's a 1LE?? Is it in the codes I posted earlier??

 

1LE wasn't an option code for Firebirds like it was for Camaros, you had to know what option codes to order/use in order for a bird to be a 1LE. An article in the 4/90 or 6/90 High Performance Pontiac magazine explained it all in detail.

 

Actually according to Frankie's information on the GTA Source Page there were 1LE equipped GTAs from 1990-1992.

So, while not "official" they do exist. It would be very cool to have a factory optionless GTA with manual windows, doors, and no AC.

 

Hey hey, that's what I got manual doors, windows, even didn't have side strips molding and I don't got a/c

Did anybody got around to decode the sticker I found?

thanks

 

I'm not saying there weren't official 1LE T/As, just that there wasn't a dedicated "1LE" box on the order form when you wanted to special order a Firebird like there was on the Camaro order form. When ordering a Firebird if you checked the correct options on the form that began the process for a 1LE Firebird build and it did receive the 1LE on the RPO sticker to designate it so. But you had to know what to order to get to the 1LE.

 

The day my dad got it..That's me in the front, I was 4yrs old!
Notice the door, no molding

 

I was bored, so I plugged your RPO numbers into the decoder. I didnt see anything about power window/lock delete. And there are several codes referencing the radio equipment.

I put it into a PDF...check it out if you want. There were a few codes that didnt show up...just do a search on here and you'll probably find what you want.

I wanna see more pics of that thing! Current and past!

Justin

 

Thanks that's nice. I see the radio but as you said can't see about the windows..Maybe because the car is for Canadian market..dunno..I do know that I have manual windows and no door locks LOL

I don't have any good pics..The car is in pieces for now I am restoring it cause its been sitting in our drive way for 16years..Lots off work ahead off me.




I know the speedometer and wheels are not the original ones..My father change it with its 1992 trans am convertible. I will get them back eventually lol

 

Now how cool is this shot? That's amazing. I'll try to decode the sticker tonight if no one else has already.

 

Who knows man... I dont know how accurate the decoder is. Im not sure if the same RPO code would mean different things throughout the years. Someone like frankie could tell you that better than me. I just plugged em in and thats what it spat out.

That is def an interesting car either way. Has some neat options/combos. My 86 is kinda weird. Its just a Trans AM. Has power windows and a/c, but no power mirrors or locks. I guess you could mix and match back then though more than you can now?

Cool pictures! If the drivers side looks like the passenger side, you have a straight car to work with! Looks to be fairly clean too. How much work do you have to do to it?? Like what all is wrong with her?

J.

 

Let's see:

AAA: STANDARD EQUIPMENT
AH3: SEAT ADJUSTER, MANUAL 4-WAY
AK1: RESTRAINT SYSTEM, SHOULDER, FRONT/REAR SEAT
AM9: SEAT, REAR, FOLDING SPLIT BACK
AQ9: SEAT, RECLINING, FRONT BUCKET, “ULTIMA” (USED W/ TRANS AM Y84)
BV3: ORNAMENTATION, INTERIOR, INSTRUMENT PANEL, BLACK
BY4: ORNAMENTATION, INTERIOR, INSTRUMENT PANEL, NAMEPLATE (USED W/ PERFORMANCE PACKAGE WS6)
B20: ORNAMENTATION, INTERIOR, LUXURY
B34: COVERING, FLOOR MAT, FRONT, CARPETED
B35: COVERING, FLOOR MAT, REAR, CARPETED
B67: CONTAINER, STORAGE, RADIO CASSETTE TAPES
B87: ORNAMENTATION, MOLDING, BODY SIDE, EXTERIOR (DELETE)
B94: ORNAMENTATION, EMBLEM, BODY SIDE (GOLD)
B97: ORNAMENTATION, LOWER MOLDING, ACCENT
C41: HEATER, OUTSIDE AIR, WITH FAN AND DEFROSTER
C49: DEFOGGER, REAR WINDOW, ELECTRIC
DG7: MIRROR, OUTSIDE, LH/RH, ELECTRIC, PAINTED
D5T: GEAR, DRIVEN, SPEEDOMETER
D60: OVERRIDE, TRIM AND PAINT, COLOR COMPATABILITY
D81: SPOILER, REAR AERO WING
D9E: SENSOR, VEHICLE, SPEED
E5Z: ADAPTER, SPEEDOMETER, DELETE
E9Z: ADAPTER, SPEEDOMETER, DELETE
FE2: SUSPENSION SYSTEM, RIDE AND HANDLING (USED W/ PERFORMANCE PACKAGE WS6)
GM3: AXLE, REAR, 3.45 RATIO
G80: AXLE, REAR, POSITRACTION, LIMITED SLIP
J65: BRAKE SYSTEM, POWER, FRONT/REAR DISC
KC4: COOLING SYSTEM, ENGINE OIL
K34: CRUISE CONTROL, AUTOMATIC, ELECTRIC
K68: GENERATOR, 105 AMP
LB9: ENGINE, 5.0L, V8, MFI
MM5: TRANSMISSION, MANUAL FIVE-SPEED PROVISIONS
M39: TRANSMISSION, MANUAL, FIVE-SPEED (BORG-WARNER)
NA5: EMISSIONS SYSTEM, FEDERAL
NOD: PLANT, ASSEMBLY DESIGNATION (NORWOOD, OH)
NP5: STEERING WHEEL, LEATHER WRAPPED
N65: WHEEL/TIRE, SPACE SAVER, STEEL
PB4: LOCK KIT, ALUMINUM WHEEL
PW7: WHEEL, 16 X 8, ALUMINUM, STYLED, DIAMOND SPOKE, BLACK
QDZ: TIRE, ALL, P245/50VR16 N/BL R/PE ST TL HW4
T93: LAMP, TAIL/STOP, SPECIAL (USED W/ TRANS AM WS4)
T96: LAMP, FRONT FOG (USED W/ TRANS AM WS4)
UM6: RADIO, AM/FM STEREO, CASSETTE, ETR, INCLUDES CLOCK
UQ1: RADIO, PROVISIONS FOR STEREO
U21: CLUSTER, INSTRUMENT (OIL, COOLANT TEMPERATURE, TACHOMETER, VOLTMETER)
U66: SPEAKER SYSTEM, FOUR, DUAL FRONT DASH, DUAL REAR EXTENDED RANGE
VK3: PLATE, LICENSE, FRONT, MOUNTING PACKAGE
V73: STATEMENT, VEHICLE, US/CANADA
WS4: OPTION, MERCHANDISING, TRANS AM (2FS87 + WS4 = 2FW87)
WS6: OPTION, MERCHANDISING, PERFORMANCE PACKAGE, SPECIAL
WW1: ORNAMENTATION, EXTERIOR, AERO PACKAGE, WHITE
W62: ORNAMENTATION, EXTERIOR, AERO PACKAGE
X05: ** DO NOT HAVE THIS CODE IN ANY BOOK OR GM MANUAL**
YS1: SEAT, REAR, CUSTOM
YT1: BUILD UP, DOOR/QUARTER, CUSTOM
Y84: OPTION, MERCHANDISING, TRANS AM GTA (1987)

CONSISTS OF:
AM9 A31 C49 DG7 NP5 UX1 WS6
AQ9 A90 C60 D42 PW7 U75
AU3 B84 DC4 K34 TR9 WS4

Z31: CONVERSION, CANADIAN PONTIAC
Z41: EXPORT, CANADIAN, MODIFICATION, MANDATORY BASE EQUIPMENT
1HV: COMPONENTS OF WS4 TRANS AM OPTION
40U: COLOR, EXTERIOR, PRIMARY, WHITE
52P: COLOR, WHEEL, GOLD METALLIC
6ZW: SPRING, FRONT, LH, COMPUTER SELECTED
62D: TRIM COMBINATION, INTERIOR, CLOTH, COLOR, LIGHT SADDLE
62I: TRIM, INTERIOR, COLOR, LIGHT SADDLE
629: SEAT BELT, INTERIOR, COLOR, LIGHT SADDLE
7ZW: SPRING, FRONT, RH, COMPUTER SELECTED
8NL: SPRING REAR, LH, COMPUTER SELECTED
9NL: SPRING, REAR, RH, COMPUTER SELECTED

Hope this helps you, my friend. A unique GTA, to say the very least.

 

X05:
The X26 is for Equipment Misc. for China.

But just about all other X?? RPO's indicate something for Front tires... The earlier book has the X26 China reference but the later book does not.
Ultimately I suspect it is for misc Canadian eqipment.

John