IROC or RS ?
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IROC or RS ?
I have an 89 camaro and i am trying to figure out if it is an iroc or rs the rpo codes point to an iroc no letters on doors but has rpo dx3 which is the decal and stipe delete it has an rs decal on the bumber vin just comes back as iroc/rs please help? and what is rpo w62 found two diiferent meaning for and not sure what they mean? thanks agian
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Re: IROC or RS ?
no it dont have the z28 rpo but it has the rpo 1fp87 and according to camarosource.com that rpo decodes as Camaro IROC-Z Coupe so that is what has me confused
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Re: IROC or RS ?
dont think i have that rpo there are a couple i cant read but here is some pics of car if it helps not sure if the parts are the original ones or on not cause they were repainted
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Re: IROC or RS ?
No Z28 = No IROC.
In this case the VIN cannot tell you if is an IROC or not, so ignore that.
Also, from pics, not the IROC hood. Can't tell about the tail lights.
In this case the VIN cannot tell you if is an IROC or not, so ignore that.
Also, from pics, not the IROC hood. Can't tell about the tail lights.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Plus, that color was not available on IROCs. I'm 99% positive its an RS just by looking at the basics.
Re: IROC or RS ?
Here is another person who thought they had a IROC and didn't. Same DX3 RPO.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-about-my.html
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Re: IROC or RS ?
The tail lights don't appear to be the grid-style that an IROC would be equipped with.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Odd it doesn't have Y86 on the RPO though, are you sure it's an '89 RS and not an '88 Sport Coupe?
Y86 is the RPO for RS.
1FP87 just means it's a 2-door hatchback, and not a convertible.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Also check for the wonderbar brace by the front sway bar. Thats another good way to point to an IROC, but as the others are saying, maui blue is an RS only color. Def doesn't appear to be an IROC to me.
Re: IROC or RS ?
On the plus side, take solace in the fact you have the best Camaro color (
) and you couldn't have gotten it on an IROC anyway, so enjoy that plain jane RS.
Just think of the thousands of first-gen RS/SS cars you see at shows--it makes the occasional base model plain jane with the bowtie in the grille look a little more appealing, since you never see them.
I'll be curious to see what you do with this car, do post more pics.
) and you couldn't have gotten it on an IROC anyway, so enjoy that plain jane RS.Just think of the thousands of first-gen RS/SS cars you see at shows--it makes the occasional base model plain jane with the bowtie in the grille look a little more appealing, since you never see them.
I'll be curious to see what you do with this car, do post more pics.
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Car: 1989 chevy camaro
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Re: IROC or RS ?
so what do you guys think i thought about painting it a different color or should i just repaint it the same color
Re: IROC or RS ?
Keep the stock color. As other have said, it's a great color!
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It's an awesome color, it really is. You can't beat it at dusk.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
I know it's an easy addition but your average joe I'm sure probably has no idea its even there. A lot of camaro owners also ussually don't know it came on IROC's either. The RPO check I'll agree is deffinately more reliable, but I always just take a peak if I'm looking at an IROC to make sure the wonderbar is there!
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Keep the color...seriously.
Re: IROC or RS ?
There are a few other guys with Maui Blue Camaros here; I can't remember any names except Manovox, who's added blacked out headlight buckets and black stripes. His car is beautiful as well. Look him up to see more pics of Maui.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Maui seems like it was always more popular on Firebirds for some reason. I owned for a short time back in 2002 an '89 Formula LB9 I took in on trade that was Maui. With a silver break on the bottom and a black and red perimeter stripe, it was pretty sharp. Just needed too much work for me at that time
Re: IROC or RS ?
I noticed this too, seemed more popular on 'birds.
I don't know Maui 'bird production numbers, or even Camaros outside of 1990, but there were 2,500 Maui Blue (Light Blue Metallic was actually the name when used on Camaros) Camaros in 1990.
Not terribly rare, but only like 7-8%, so uncommon at least. In person I've only ever seen two others, but both were V6 models.
I don't know Maui 'bird production numbers, or even Camaros outside of 1990, but there were 2,500 Maui Blue (Light Blue Metallic was actually the name when used on Camaros) Camaros in 1990.
Not terribly rare, but only like 7-8%, so uncommon at least. In person I've only ever seen two others, but both were V6 models.
Re: IROC or RS ?
It amazes me how many threads there are about identifying a car. With all the information on this website, there's no quick identification guide. Is it because there's no VIN/RPO decoder here that can be accessed right on the homepage?
Re: IROC or RS ?
Multiple things that say it's not an IROC-Z.
1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.
The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.
The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
Re: IROC or RS ?
Multiple things that say it's not an IROC-Z.
1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.
The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.
The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
well you have to remember that alot of previous owners change numerous parts to fix them up and not all are the actual parts that would go to an rs or iroc you never now what the previous has done and why people just getting in to the third gen camaro's dont know all the facts about them
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Re: IROC or RS ?
I noticed on his RPO list it says LO3,did the IROCS even come with the LO3?I thought the 305 that came in the IROCS and z28's were a different code?
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Re: IROC or RS ?
yeah i would keep it the same color i have the maui blue as well and mines an rs 305. but they only painted so many of them that color i wanted a black Camaro but i just would feel guilty about changing a part of history.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
https://www.thirdgen.org/1989-chevy-camaro
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Re: IROC or RS ?
Yes. More info in the following link, should you be interested:
https://www.thirdgen.org/1989-chevy-camaro
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Car: 1989 chevy camaro
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Re: IROC or RS ?
ok its not an iroc i get it i was just confused thanks for the info its just that other websites have differenrt info on some of the iroc
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Re: IROC or RS ?
The part that really amazes me are the number of people that buy Camaros from 1967 to present, and then wonder what it is they bought.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
what really sucks is when the previous owner states the car is pretty well original and then you get it home and do research to find out almost everything has been changed.
are there any websites that i can get accurate casting number info for the camaro's
are there any websites that i can get accurate casting number info for the camaro's
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There are a couple ways to look at it... If you like a car, who cares what it is? If you are buying a car just because it's the king of the hill, ask questions and document it beforehand.
There's even a book (The Camaro White Book) that is specifically designed to be a pocket handbook to help you identify what's really what. Of course if the SPID is gone, it probably won't do you a lot of good.
Websites are often wrong. Any bonehead can register a domain name and setup a website with hearsay facts. Just about every book on the Thirdgen subject has flaws, but almost all of them are more accurate then most other websites. The tech data here has flaws, but it's better then most other sites when it comes to covering a wide and diverse topic.
There's even a book (The Camaro White Book) that is specifically designed to be a pocket handbook to help you identify what's really what. Of course if the SPID is gone, it probably won't do you a lot of good.
Websites are often wrong. Any bonehead can register a domain name and setup a website with hearsay facts. Just about every book on the Thirdgen subject has flaws, but almost all of them are more accurate then most other websites. The tech data here has flaws, but it's better then most other sites when it comes to covering a wide and diverse topic.
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Re: IROC or RS ?
very true lesson learned wont happen again thanks to all of you i have learned alot from your input thanks again
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Re: IROC or RS ?
hey guys kinda off the subject but will a hood,windshield,front fenders, and dash pad off of an 87 fit on an 89
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