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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 03:31 PM
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IROC or RS ?

I have an 89 camaro and i am trying to figure out if it is an iroc or rs the rpo codes point to an iroc no letters on doors but has rpo dx3 which is the decal and stipe delete it has an rs decal on the bumber vin just comes back as iroc/rs please help? and what is rpo w62 found two diiferent meaning for and not sure what they mean? thanks agian

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

If you have the RPOs, does it have the RPO code Z28? If so, then it is an Iroc. If it doesn't, then it is an RS.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 04:37 PM
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no it dont have the z28 rpo but it has the rpo 1fp87 and according to camarosource.com that rpo decodes as Camaro IROC-Z Coupe so that is what has me confused
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:08 PM
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Do you have RPO "Y86"? What taillights do you have? What hood? Which grill?
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:14 PM
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dont think i have that rpo there are a couple i cant read but here is some pics of car if it helps not sure if the parts are the original ones or on not cause they were repainted
Attached Thumbnails IROC or RS ?-photo0220.jpg   IROC or RS ?-photo0216.jpg   IROC or RS ?-photo0219.jpg  

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

No Z28 = No IROC.

In this case the VIN cannot tell you if is an IROC or not, so ignore that.

Also, from pics, not the IROC hood. Can't tell about the tail lights.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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here is a pic of the rpo code mabye it will help
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:27 PM
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then why does it have the other iroc rpo
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

No idea, but it is REALLY simple. No Z28, no IROC
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Plus, that color was not available on IROCs. I'm 99% positive its an RS just by looking at the basics.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:36 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Here is another person who thought they had a IROC and didn't. Same DX3 RPO.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/hist...-about-my.html
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:40 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

The tail lights don't appear to be the grid-style that an IROC would be equipped with.

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:44 PM
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oh ok thanks for the link and your help wish it would of been an iroc
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 05:48 PM
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mabye ill just make it an iroc clone lol
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:12 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Originally Posted by Jason E
Plus, that color was not available on IROCs. I'm 99% positive its an RS just by looking at the basics.
Bingo, Maui Blue was an RS only color, code 23U/9537.

Odd it doesn't have Y86 on the RPO though, are you sure it's an '89 RS and not an '88 Sport Coupe?

Y86 is the RPO for RS.

1FP87 just means it's a 2-door hatchback, and not a convertible.

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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:22 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Also check for the wonderbar brace by the front sway bar. Thats another good way to point to an IROC, but as the others are saying, maui blue is an RS only color. Def doesn't appear to be an IROC to me.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:24 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

On the plus side, take solace in the fact you have the best Camaro color ( ) and you couldn't have gotten it on an IROC anyway, so enjoy that plain jane RS.

Just think of the thousands of first-gen RS/SS cars you see at shows--it makes the occasional base model plain jane with the bowtie in the grille look a little more appealing, since you never see them.

I'll be curious to see what you do with this car, do post more pics.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:44 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

so what do you guys think i thought about painting it a different color or should i just repaint it the same color
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:45 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA
Also check for the wonderbar brace by the front sway bar. Thats another good way to point to an IROC, but as the others are saying, maui blue is an RS only color. Def doesn't appear to be an IROC to me.
The wonderbar is so easily added that is not a good check for it being an IROC. Every one of my cars has a wonderbar... and only one came with it stock!


Originally Posted by sloatgnc
so what do you guys think i thought about painting it a different color or should i just repaint it the same color
Keep the stock color. As other have said, it's a great color!
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:51 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Originally Posted by sloatgnc
so what do you guys think i thought about painting it a different color or should i just repaint it the same color
Same color, I have a thread in Members' Camaros that shows what it looks like in good shape. Take a look at that if you'd like to see what it will look like if you were to freshen yours up.

It's an awesome color, it really is. You can't beat it at dusk.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 11:55 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Originally Posted by AmorgetRS
The wonderbar is so easily added that is not a good check for it being an IROC. Every one of my cars has a wonderbar... and only one came with it stock!
I know it's an easy addition but your average joe I'm sure probably has no idea its even there. A lot of camaro owners also ussually don't know it came on IROC's either. The RPO check I'll agree is deffinately more reliable, but I always just take a peak if I'm looking at an IROC to make sure the wonderbar is there!
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 05:02 AM
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Keep the color...seriously.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 05:53 AM
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 06:55 AM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

There are a few other guys with Maui Blue Camaros here; I can't remember any names except Manovox, who's added blacked out headlight buckets and black stripes. His car is beautiful as well. Look him up to see more pics of Maui.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Maui seems like it was always more popular on Firebirds for some reason. I owned for a short time back in 2002 an '89 Formula LB9 I took in on trade that was Maui. With a silver break on the bottom and a black and red perimeter stripe, it was pretty sharp. Just needed too much work for me at that time
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 07:27 AM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

I noticed this too, seemed more popular on 'birds.

I don't know Maui 'bird production numbers, or even Camaros outside of 1990, but there were 2,500 Maui Blue (Light Blue Metallic was actually the name when used on Camaros) Camaros in 1990.

Not terribly rare, but only like 7-8%, so uncommon at least. In person I've only ever seen two others, but both were V6 models.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:42 AM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

It amazes me how many threads there are about identifying a car. With all the information on this website, there's no quick identification guide. Is it because there's no VIN/RPO decoder here that can be accessed right on the homepage?
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:43 AM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Multiple things that say it's not an IROC-Z.

1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.

The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 11:56 AM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
Multiple things that say it's not an IROC-Z.

1. Color
2. No Z28 RPO code
3. No IROC-Z hood
4. No IROC-Z taillights
5. Incorrect IROC-Z rims for the year
6. Non IROC-Z suspension with FE1 RPO.

The 1FP87 does not designate the car as an IROC-Z. It breaks down as basically a F-body Coupe. You have an RS only.
That's what I was thinking... It's so clearly an RS I don't see how anyone could think it's an Iroc. It's shocking that a thread like this went on after post #2.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

well you have to remember that alot of previous owners change numerous parts to fix them up and not all are the actual parts that would go to an rs or iroc you never now what the previous has done and why people just getting in to the third gen camaro's dont know all the facts about them
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:10 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

I noticed on his RPO list it says LO3,did the IROCS even come with the LO3?I thought the 305 that came in the IROCS and z28's were a different code?
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

yeah i would keep it the same color i have the maui blue as well and mines an rs 305. but they only painted so many of them that color i wanted a black Camaro but i just would feel guilty about changing a part of history.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:25 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

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I noticed on his RPO list it says LO3,did the IROCS even come with the LO3?
Yes. More info in the following link, should you be interested:

https://www.thirdgen.org/1989-chevy-camaro

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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 01:58 PM
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Yes. More info in the following link, should you be interested:

https://www.thirdgen.org/1989-chevy-camaro

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Oh ok,thanks James.I thought all the IROC'S and Z28s were either LB9 or L98.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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ok its not an iroc i get it i was just confused thanks for the info its just that other websites have differenrt info on some of the iroc
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:08 PM
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The part that really amazes me are the number of people that buy Camaros from 1967 to present, and then wonder what it is they bought.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:15 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

what really sucks is when the previous owner states the car is pretty well original and then you get it home and do research to find out almost everything has been changed.

are there any websites that i can get accurate casting number info for the camaro's
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sloatgnc
what really sucks is when the previous owner states the car is pretty well original and then you get it home and do research to find out almost everything has been changed.
Lesson learned. Research first--of course, this advice comes from a geezer who's had to go around the block several times before learning his lesson.

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Re: IROC or RS ?

There are a couple ways to look at it... If you like a car, who cares what it is? If you are buying a car just because it's the king of the hill, ask questions and document it beforehand.

There's even a book (The Camaro White Book) that is specifically designed to be a pocket handbook to help you identify what's really what. Of course if the SPID is gone, it probably won't do you a lot of good.

Websites are often wrong. Any bonehead can register a domain name and setup a website with hearsay facts. Just about every book on the Thirdgen subject has flaws, but almost all of them are more accurate then most other websites. The tech data here has flaws, but it's better then most other sites when it comes to covering a wide and diverse topic.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 03:54 PM
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very true lesson learned wont happen again thanks to all of you i have learned alot from your input thanks again
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:06 PM
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Re: IROC or RS ?

hey guys kinda off the subject but will a hood,windshield,front fenders, and dash pad off of an 87 fit on an 89
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Yes. If the 87 doesn't have ground effects you'll need to drill some holes in the fenders.
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Old Jan 17, 2011 | 04:14 PM
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oh ok thanks
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