I'm going to start by saying that I have searched on here on where to ask my question and have not found a clue on where I would. I was initially going to ask in the classifieds on "sell your car" but read the rules and I guess my type of question would be allowed? o.0? Anyways my question is...

I have a 1987 IROC-Z 5.7L TPI Camaro with ttops that I considering on selling... BUT I would like to get other peoples opinion on much it is worth..

Well my car has 13,911 original miles almost 14k. With, sadly, a salvage title but has not been in a car accident. It has a complete stock engine, all power functions work (except windshield wiper water pump thing does not shoot water), mechanical trunk latch works, brand new exhaust with flowmasters, upholstery is very good condition but some stains on it but has had seat covers, for i would say, 8-10 years, dash is cracked due to normal sun damage, fog lights are original and are there but dont turn on, all other lights everywhere work, antenna is missing, after market radio with no face plate, paint is not original but it is same type of blue and is in average condition, nothing wrong with engine, no check engine lights, rebuilt transmission, has original spare tire with original tire inflator can attached, original car jack, registration is paid till june 2014 but have not received sticker due to smog which passed last year but supposedly need new catalytic converter now.

With that said I would like opinions or suggestions on how much this car is worth. If you need some other more specific info that I can think of right now just let me know. Also if you're wondering why I am considering selling this car, well this car has been in my family for almost 15 years and was given to me around 2008 but I am moving and think its time for me to part with this car and would love more money in my pocket. I love this car and have put in about $2k in it(irrelevant i know) on new whole exhaust, rebuilt transmission, and some aftermarket parts that I bought but have not installed since this was my project car and was planning on painting before I installed anything new like new brake lights, new headlights, ect. This car did sit a lot but was well taken care of and turned on regularly and I use my truck as my daily driver for work and all. Not going to say my car is rare because i know its not but I think the value is on the mileage.

 

My first question is going to be the obvious...why the salvage title if it hasn't been wrecked? Fire? Flood? Regardless of the reason, a salvage title alone is probably going to hurt this car's value by 30-40%.

Next...with the miles being this low, every non-factory part is going to be a turnoff to anyone looking for a super low mile car like this one. I'm sure you love your new Flowmaster exhaust system, most of your car's potential buyers would probably want to kick you in the nuts for swapping out a 14K original exhaust. Many people are going to question you as to why the transmission had to be rebuilt with just 14K on it as well. We all know that our cars were notorious for clearcoat failure, but your car already being on its second paintjob (which you say is only average) is not going to help either. Ditto on the cracked dash, we've all had one at some point, but people might base the overall care that the car's had over the years just off the paint and dash.

I can't speak for everyone else, but an aftermarket radio (especially one missing its faceplate) is likely to be a turnoff as also. I'd almost just go on eBay and try to find a non-working but at least original/correct cassette deck. Anytime I see an aftermarket radio missing its faceplate, it makes me wonder what other things on this car are missing, and what other corners were cut when repairs were made.

Basically, with the miles being so low, most people are going to assume it's perfect and 100% stock, which it's not. That's not to say that it's not a WHOLE lot nicer than your average third gen, but most buyers still look at mileage more than condition, and in this case your condition does not match your miles.

Your saving grace is going to be the 5.7/t-top combo as most cars have one or the other. Honestly though, I think with the salvage title, needing paint to be a show car (which most people are going to want with miles this low), and lack of originality, I would probably advertise it well under $10k, and take $5-6k.

 

I'm wondering too why it has a salvage title if it's not been in an accident or otherwise badly damaged (fire?, flood?). Can you document that the car only has 14K and not 114K mi on it? As a buyer, I would be very suspicious about the mileage and title without some pretty good documentation on the history of the car.

 

Very suspicious of this vehicle, need more information on title.

 

It does have only 14k miles. This car sat A LOT unfortunately.. and it has a salvage title but has never been in a car accident. It was in an auction where they gave it a salvage title in the 90s

 

That car looks more like a 214k mile car. Also, is it me or does the rear drivers quarter look pushed down and out? I would have to call BS just looking at the pics, bet it's much worse in person. Sorry, but that is MHO.

 

Agreed ... Look at the front bumper to hood gap and the driver door gap .. Drivers door gap looks like it's closed at the top and about 3/8 inch at the bottom of the door

 

That's fine, I appreciate your honest opinions I really do, but I know what I have. I just wanted to know a price of a car in these conditions with salvage title. :/

 

I don't think you do. This car is older than you and was given to you with stories of it's history. You don't know firsthand the complete story of this car.

-The car having a salvage title kills it's value even if it was in mint condition.
-The windshield washer pump should still work at 14k miles. The amount of time the car sat will have no effect on this part.
-Aftermarket exhaust? That's new now? Why?
-Why does the upholstery have stains. A 14k mile car is usually treated as such and stains would be a no no. If the car sat for years, untouched, then the seats should show no stains or wear.
-why don't the fog lights turn on? They should still work
-why is the antenna missing? A 14k mile car should not be missing the antenna.
- catalytic converters don't usually fail at 14k miles. Why does this need to be replaced?
- Transmission rebuilt at 14k miles? why? Mine was rebuilt at 19k miles, but I was racing the car when I trashed mine.
- Lastly, why is the front bumper cover sitting like that? Low mileage cars have body panels that line up correctly unless there was front end damage.

I mentioned in the other thread my thoughts on cost, but I believe that this car is salvaged due to an accident or theft recovery with damages and stole parts. The coolant overflow bottle screams 114k miles. Again, I say no more than $3k on the high side. It requires too much work and it's history is questionable to demand a higher price.

 

Well, I'm just saying that while all you say about the car may well be true, without some solid documentation on the mileage and the title, most buyers are going to assume it's a 114k mi. car with some sort of damage in it's history. It might be worthwhile to do a Carfax on it. Don't know how it is it California, but here in TX they record the mileage every time they do an inspection and title transfer that shows up on a Carfax. If you see an entry in the past with any mileage greater than 14,xxx, then you know the odometer has rolled over at least once. You might also get some details on what happened on the title.

 

Salvage title = daily driver.

If it was in 14K original mile condition with NO salvage title and you could proove the milage NADA says it's valued at @ almost 14K. In it's current condition WITHOUT a salvage title; worth maybe 5-6K. (getting that $ for is another story). As it sits right now ( a salvage car ); If the interior is in real nice shape and it runs/drivess with no issues & has a valid inspection sticker,... Easily a $3K car 'as-is'.

Looking at that nose, SOMETHING is wrong,... it's WAY off. There's no way that you can honestly think that the factory allowed the car to roll off the line like that - right ?? I got a feeling that close inspection of the front end would show evidence of a crash. VERY DOUBTFUL that anyone is going to slap a "salvage" title on a 14K original IROC just to sell it cheap at some auto auction. Doing that would cut the cars value by 1/2 - 2/3's. There are very few reasons that a car with 14K miles would need to be re-painted,.... the need to cover-up repair work/damage so it could be re-sold with a salvage title is one of them.


Based on the pics and info, I think your gonna' have trouble getting anyone to believe that it's never been in an accident or that it's a 14K original mile car. You will need to provide some type of proof of these claims - and the info provided in this post doesn't come close.


Just my opinion.

 

why was the transmission rebuilt on such a low mile car ?????? im not buying this story sorry.

 

I broke mine!!

He said in another post that the tranny was rebuilt because the car would wait until 5k to shift into second and then it was a very hard shift. Mine did that....at wide open throttle!! Not sure if that's the case here or not, but if not, then the car doesn't have 14k miles on it. Just sitting does not cause the tranny to have these issues unless it sat with no fluid or low fluid and then was driven with no fluid. That would trash it fairly quickly.

 

The coolant overflow tank made me suspicious right away. My 82 base car sat for 10-11 years and had 20,900 miles on it when purchased. The paint looked like it could have had many more miles, but the coolant tank and interior looked very 20k ish. You could save yourself a lot of questions and doubt by running a carfax or some sort of auto report. Any odometer discrepency or salvage info should show up.

 

It has a new fuel pump relay too and a couple wires near it that seem to have been spliced

 

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You'd be better off selling it as a parts car

 

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Hahaha ... So y did u wanna c the gas and brake pedals ? For wear ? Lol

 

yea for wear he would lol, i would to thats a good indicator, 14k should look new, 114k usually the corner of the break is worn or just not there lol

 

noticed something u guys missed, LOOK AT THE VALANCE TO!

 

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