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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 07:40 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
I just got em at AZ. They were a bit stiff; if I raised the hood about 8 - 10 inches, it would go the rest of th eway up by itself. Didn't seem to be a problem.
No concerns when closing? I don't want there to be an issue down the road when some unwitting mechanic decides to fold the hood rather than close it gently.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Uh, no. They aren't the same as the steel hoods. The reason the SMC hoods were stopped being made was because they were separating at the hinges. The pressure of the hood struts tried keeping the hoods open, while the owner was trying to close the hood causing too much pressure at the rear of the hood and splitting them.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 04:24 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

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Uh, no. They aren't the same as the steel hoods. The reason the SMC hoods were stopped being made was because they were separating at the hinges. The pressure of the hood struts tried keeping the hoods open, while the owner was trying to close the hood causing too much pressure at the rear of the hood and splitting them.
Any input Scott on where the correct struts might be ordered?
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Uh, no. Or at least, not necessarily.

Has worked fine for me for ..... 20-some? 30-some? years now. It just goes ... "Schwinnnnggg!!" once it's raised a bit.

LOOK at how the hood struts work, at the various opening points of the hood: you'll see that with the hood closed, there's ZERO pressure from the struts, because of the angle that the hinges are at.

Now, the issue of how the owners closed the hood, that's something else entirely, right there. Even with a steel hood, if you just grab the hood and start trying to close it, it puts an ENORMOUS force on the hood right at the hinges, because of the angles that the parts are then at. But all ya gotta do to control that, is to push REARWARD on the hood at the same time you close it; and to kinda gently work it from side to side. It's not that hard to keep from breaking the damn thing off.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 07:24 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

I agree sofa and no, I don't know where to get the proper struts. I just know that a lot of people have been using the tired regular struts when the steel hood owner is done with them.
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Old Jun 12, 2015 | 10:04 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

I love the Camaro dual snorkel with the hood intake.... So I made mine that way..

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Old Jun 13, 2015 | 05:40 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

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I agree sofa and no, I don't know where to get the proper struts. I just know that a lot of people have been using the tired regular struts when the steel hood owner is done with them.
That might work! - I have a set of take off's I could try.
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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 07:27 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Originally Posted by scottmoyer
I agree sofa and no, I don't know where to get the proper struts. I just know that a lot of people have been using the tired regular struts when the steel hood owner is done with them.
I get my struts for my SMC hood at AutoZone, #E95976.
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Old Aug 14, 2015 | 07:38 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

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It does not & I thought they were supposed to. Weren't they supposed to have a 3:73 open (non posi) disc rear?
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Four-Wheel Disc Required Posi.
When I ordered my 83 L69 I ordered the 4-wheel disc brakes but I got a letter in the mail stating the Posi rear was no longer avaiable. I was a little bummed at that.

It was a 2nd week of June build. IIRC that would make it one of the early builds. So, PurelyPMD, it's possible that all disc cars got the open rear. I wonder if a few of the very first models made it through before they decided to can the option...?

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Old Aug 15, 2015 | 06:37 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Mine is an April build, sold new 04/18 so that would likely be one of the earlier ones.

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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 02:00 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

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BTW, there wasn't a 17C interior color code for 1983. There wasn't even a code 17 regardless of letter in 1983. Based on the decoder above, that's the lower body color. I don't see 17 listed as a silver though. There was a silver car color, 16U, for 1982 and I also see the rims are listed as silver, code 14P. The 16 code silver is not the same as the ground effects. I'm showing that the ground effects are the same color as the rims, which should be 14.

Now that I've confused everybody, I don't know what 17C is.
Well according to the Camaro White Book there was a code 17 for the interior in 1983. 17C on the trim tag would denote custom cloth interior in charcoal, which is what this car has.
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 08:03 AM
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Thanks David, I finally realized Charcoal was the correct color when I ordered the headliner, speaker covers & visor replacements. They look great!
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Old Aug 16, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Really? I just checked and found that the information I was looking at was exterior color codes. I looked at three different charts and all were exterior. Thanks David.
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Old Aug 17, 2015 | 06:56 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Originally Posted by SolarGoldRaptor
Nice car ! What's the carburetor ID ? (stamped 8 digit number on the DS of the carb, it should begin with 17083xxx)
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It's on the lift at my shop in town, non posi, drum brakes with aluminum finned drums.

I'll check the carb numbers on it tomorrow.
PurelyPMD, did you ever get a chance to look at those carb numbers? Back when mine was new I was having those heat soak problems and it seems like I remember the service dept saying they changed out the carb from a Monte Carlo.
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Old Aug 21, 2015 | 06:22 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Carb no. for a 1983 L69 (VIN code 7) is 17083205.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 07:02 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

I'll check it today, sorry didn't see this.
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Old Aug 22, 2015 | 02:20 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Here you go, 17083205 built on the 69th day of 1983 (great date for an L69 carb huh?)

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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 06:54 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

Thanks for checking. I have a 17083207 carb on my '84 L69, built on the 139th day of 1983. I wonder if it came from an L69 :
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Works great, I'm getting 21 MPG on the highway at 75mph avg.
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 07:07 AM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

From what I've seen the 207 is an HO carb as well.

Here's a good resource page from the early third gen site.

http://www.earlythirdgen.com/forums/...php?f=29&t=769
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Old Aug 24, 2015 | 06:20 PM
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

The 17083207 carb is from a 1983 LG4 w/ manual trans (MK6).
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Old May 9, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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So my 1 year relationship with this car is over and it's off to it's new, VERY HAPPY owner. A woman and her sister came down to drive it last month - they didn't know much about cars and even less about what they were buying so I didn't put a lot of effort into persuading her other than encouraging her to look at some others before she made a decision. I had done a lot of work to this car getting it to it's current condition, replacing far more parts than I had originally intended while trying to maintain it's originality.

I put the car on e-Bay and with 2 days left and the bids getting very close to my reserve she called and we cut a deal - I delivered the car to her last Thursday & it's staying in state.

She was trying to replace the car her husband sold when they got married. They lived all within walking distance from her aged parents and her sister who was divorced and he ended up getting all of the calls asking for help with things - and always gladly did them. She said that she had to get it for him because she knew he never would. I told her that in our world, she was a hero for what she was doing!

Yesterday I got a text that her husband LOVED it and they were out cruising.

Pic when I dropped it off...



Pictures texted yesterday - I thanked here for sharing the moment with me!



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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:16 PM
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That is too cool Chris! He's VERY happy! Love the story.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:24 PM
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Wow! And he got a great car! It was actually my wife who found my present car and talked me into getting it. This guy has a gem of a car and a gem of a wife in my book as well!
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:38 PM
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Great story!
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Old May 9, 2016 | 12:41 PM
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What a great story!
After reading this journey again, It just dawned on me that I have a nos set of smc hood struts still in package.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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Of coarse you do!
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Re: 1983 L69/5spd

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Of coarse you do!
I have some of the weirdest random stuff
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