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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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1989 Formula. Saveable????

Tough call.


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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 12:23 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

I doubt it. Sadly, it looks like a parts car. I'm not too far from it, I could get a good look at it.
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 12:36 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

hard to tell from that pic but might be ok. a gamble i suppose
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Definitely savable, although it looks like the latch didn't give up and sucked the quarter in. But if it were a little closer I'd be interested in fixing it, I have half a 86' Firebird that'd be perfect to use
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 01:11 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by DD9TransAmGTA
Definitely savable, although it looks like the latch didn't give up and sucked the quarter in. But if it were a little closer I'd be interested in fixing it, I have half a 86' Firebird that'd be perfect to use
I was going to give you as example and say it can be saved
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

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I was going to give you as example and say it can be saved
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 02:22 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

The fold on the roof makes me think this one is gone...
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 02:48 PM
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Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

I could use the rear bumper cover and wheels (if in good shape) if anyone buys this for parts.

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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 03:09 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by TTOP350
I could use the rear bumper cover if anyone buys this for parts.
Damn. I read this comment and remembered I had a rear bumper cover that style at one point. For the life of me I cant remember what ever happened to it. I'm sure I probably sold it at some point, but like the missing headlight assembly from the same parts car, I cant help but think it's probably in the back corner of an attic.


I guess this is what the driver of that Formula deserves for running snow tires.
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by SolarGoldRaptor
The fold on the roof makes me think this one is gone...
My exact thoughts, too

It could be saved, but realistically you've gotta be a body guy to do it, with the right expertise...paying a shop to do it would drain a budget, fast...
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 03:50 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Spoiler looks good - I'd be in for that.
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 04:16 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

With enough time and money, it can be saved...
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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Car: 1989 IROC G92 LB9 MK6
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Rip in the roof is large...anything can be repaired but this car was hammered. This car is a cam challenged 5.0 and an auto....no redeeming value.
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Old Apr 30, 2016 | 09:08 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Value aspect aside, and that its a 305, it's a tough call. If you knew a damn good body person to restore the frame on the roof and get another door and and fix the crushed body panels it can be save able. But that's a ton of money it will take to save it. Knowing the corner dash on the passenger was probably damaged up too that could that can also cost more money out of your pocket if it was crushed in the passenger side dash panel in that's another dash assembly and pad.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 05:46 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Indeed, there a lot more than meets the eye on a damaged car. I've parted out a '76 Formula that got a pretty bad crash, I found some cracks everywhere, even though the only real damage to the body was on the driver side firewall/water drain and a subframe mount. The passenger door was hit hard and the inner brace was badly bent, but still opened and closed fine. The driver door looked really good, but upon closer inspection, it was bent as well !

Unless you have a personal story with a car, or got it for free, I wouldn't bother with a crashed car.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Sometimes one must die so that others may live.

Organ donor.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 04:13 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by DD9TransAmGTA
...although it looks like the latch didn't give up and sucked the quarter in.
That's good crash protection though...all that energy went into pulling the quarter, rather than driving the door further into the passenger compartment. Either way, I hope no one was riding shotgun on that day.

Originally Posted by FirebirdUSX
I was going to give you as example and say it can be saved
He's setting a high bar for all of us.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 04:27 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by DynoDave43
He's setting a high bar for all of us.
I know .I read "but the roof is bent" ...pffft have you seen the whole car bent getting fixed
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Old May 1, 2016 | 08:47 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Can't help but think that the Blizzaks on there had something to do with it. Car was out running around when it shouldn't be unless the owner considered it a throwaway.
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Old May 1, 2016 | 10:17 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

WHO knows for sure. Not any one of us looking at pictures. Think about it for a little bit. Edward.
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Old May 2, 2016 | 12:59 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Wow, looks like what my former brother in law did to my 92 Camaro. He backed into my door with his 1 ton dually. Got the pillar back to within 1/8 inch of normal replaced door and ready to paint when car got hit again.

I fixed it because I loved the car, this would be a lot of work. Could be done, but others are out there that can be fixed for less.

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Old May 2, 2016 | 01:26 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Yes, I agree with money and time it probably could be saved, but that looks like a hell of a pounding it took. Who knows what all got damaged. Tweaked frame or cracks in the body. The bottom of the door jamb is %$@#*! all to hell. A lot of money for sure to fix everything. Just a really super nice parts car now in my opinion. Too easy to find another that you could just fix up with this one... What a shame.
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Old May 5, 2016 | 08:43 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????


That should buff right out
Attached Thumbnails 1989 Formula. Saveable????-00u0u_81dvjtigqyh_600x450.jpg  

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Old May 5, 2016 | 08:59 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Maybe I'm just a tight wad, but two grand seems like a lot of dough for a totaled car. I can't imagine that car values are that much higher in WI than they are in MN. I would think you'd be lucky to get $500 for that around here.
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Old May 6, 2016 | 04:38 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Originally Posted by okfoz
That should buff right out
Thats hilarious Sounds like something a General Contractor would say.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 09:42 AM
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From: Doghouse ······································ Car: 1989 Formula 350 Vert Engine: 350 L98 Transmission: 700R4 Axle/Gears: B&W 3.27
Car: 87 Formula T-Top, 87 Formula HT
Engine: 5.1L TPI, 5.0L TPI
Transmission: 700R4, M5
Axle/Gears: Sag 3.73, B&W 3.45
Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

It is the type of thing you get when going into a used car dealership or looking to buy something at a Pawn Shop. You know, they give you, "YOU can fix that easily enough..." statement. I started to reply "Ok, since it would be easy to fix, then you fix it and I will buy it."
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Old May 9, 2016 | 10:18 AM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

"YOU can fix that easily enough..."
"Hey, I bet the window is still OK!"

"A couple of taps will straighten the metal out in no time"

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Old May 9, 2016 | 09:47 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

It's a real shame since it's a great color.
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Old May 9, 2016 | 09:49 PM
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Re: 1989 Formula. Saveable????

Great color, never grow tired of it.
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