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Old 06-05-2017, 04:58 PM
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IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

Since my links don't usually work, car is listed on Allentown PA Craigslist for sale. It's an 86 with 32,000 miles. Nice car, but if he gets anything close to his price is that good or bad??
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

The answer is "NO". I tried locating the listing, but couldn't find it. I personally don't believe any 1986 IROC-Z is worth $25k yet. Especially one with 32k miles. The 1985 IROC-Z that had 4.3 miles on it sold for $32k. I know of a few others that have less than 1000 miles that have sold in the high $20k - low $30k range. At most, this car, if in perfect condition and a show car, might be able to get the upper teens, but the market has so many low mile cars that 32k doesn't qualify as low mileage now.
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I didn't think so either...
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

sold my 85 iroc last year with 5,000 miles on it for 17,000 and it was brand new in every way .. and it took a little time to sell it ..
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Agreed with the other comments above.

Worst performing year for the 305 TPI engine of them all.

Best of luck to that seller in getting the asking price.
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here's the listing


https://scranton.craigslist.org/cto/6120624528.html
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to bad for him this car is in the same area

mint 1987 5.7 iroc with 13,000 miles for 19,500



https://reading.craigslist.org/cto/6129348032.html
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

Sometimes people think "maybe" I would sell if it was enough money. I think as a one owner car, a bunch of that price has to be emotional value. Unless the owner gets bored with trying, its going to be sale proof at that price.

Nice looking car, but thats way too much.

On a related note, anybody ever notice when things are grossly over priced on ebay, the item tends to get a huge amount of "watchers"? I often wonder if these sellers believe the watchers are potential buyers, or if they realize its spectators seeing if anybody would ever actually pull the trigger.
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

Originally Posted by ray jr
to bad for him this car is in the same area

mint 1987 5.7 iroc with 13,000 miles for 19,500



https://reading.craigslist.org/cto/6129348032.html
Nice car, Not so sure about the limited number "gold package"? pretty sure that's just the trim color selected, correct?
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

Originally Posted by ray jr
to bad for him this car is in the same area

mint 1987 5.7 iroc with 13,000 miles for 19,500



https://reading.craigslist.org/cto/6129348032.html
T-Top version of Charlies new car.
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T-Top version of Charlies new car.
I was thinking the same thing.....

He almost has to consider it, doesn't he? Leather in the 87's was just not that common & to have the identical color combo, leather & then the low miles makes it pretty interesting.
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No. No. and NO
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T-Top version of Charlies new car.
Originally Posted by F-body-fan
I was thinking the same thing.....

He almost has to consider it, doesn't he? Leather in the 87's was just not that common & to have the identical color combo, leather & then the low miles makes it pretty interesting.

Oh no I don't!
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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

There is a dealer online with really low mile '86, like under 2000 miles, who is asking something like $38K.

They won't get that obviously. That one may go for 25K, but not a 32,000 mile one.
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The owner probably was told to check his car on hagerty.com. A concourse condition '86 IROC-Z with TPI, In May 2017, shows $26,800, not including a 10% premium for TTops. We need to remember that many people feel their cars are in better condition than they really are. Hagerty's Concourse description is:

"Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the vehicle has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 vehicles is "concours."

If this car has never seen rain or snow, and is in "like new" condition inside and out, I can see where he got his price. Right or wrong!
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The owner probably was told to check his car on hagerty.com. A concourse condition '86 IROC-Z with TPI, In May 2017, shows $26,800, not including a 10% premium for TTops. We need to remember that many people feel their cars are in better condition than they really are. Hagerty's Concourse description is:

"Condition #1 vehicles are the best in the world. The visual image is of the best vehicle, in the right colors, driving onto the lawn at the finest concours. Perfectly clean, the vehicle has been groomed down to the tire treads. Painted and chromed surfaces are mirror-like. Dust and dirt are banned, and materials used are correct and superbly fitted. The one word description for #1 vehicles is "concours."

If this car has never seen rain or snow, and is in "like new" condition inside and out, I can see where he got his price. Right or wrong!
Although many people consider their cars to be #1 cars, they in fact would need to be so perfect that they cease being actual cars are are only museum pieces.
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Although many people consider their cars to be #1 cars, they in fact would need to be so perfect that they cease being actual cars are are only museum pieces.
Amen to that.

Even the best cars on this board don't fit that criteria - well - maybe Erik's do.
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Amen to that.

Even the best cars on this board don't fit that criteria - well - maybe Erik's do.
LOL!! Thanks Chris My 87 is def not a #1 car, it's my driver and I like to keep it just like that. But, I'd put my 91 and 92 against any others though in a show and shine
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LOL!! Thanks Chris My 87 is def not a #1 car, it's my driver and I like to keep it just like that. But, I'd put my 91 and 92 against any others though in a show and shine
Sometimes I wonder if a #1 car could be appreciated by the majority of people.
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There is a dealer online with really low mile '86, like under 2000 miles, who is asking something like $38K.

They won't get that obviously. That one may go for 25K, but not a 32,000 mile one.
Here it is:
http://inventory.vanguardmotorsales....amaro-iroc-z28

Pity about the spraycanned undercarriage.
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i think this guy has a better shot at getting 25k for his car

https://providence.craigslist.org/cto/6153359872.html
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I think for a 1990 Iroc convertible like that you're correct. I believe that'll sell for $22-$23k

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i think this guy has a better shot at getting 25k for his car

https://providence.craigslist.org/cto/6153359872.html
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https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...153364659.html

This one is also very likely to get good money!
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Very nice car!

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Re: IS A 1 OWNER 305 IROC WORTH 25K ??

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Sometimes I wonder if a #1 car could be appreciated by the majority of people.



It wouldn't be appreciated by me, because a car in that condition pretty much can't be driven without degrading its' condition.


In other words, it's no longer a useful car, but something pretty to look at.


I'd take a #2 or #3 condition car that I can hop in and drive any day over something I can only look at, and wonder what it's like to drive.


If I owned a car museum, that would be a different issue.
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I have seen and know the owner of both cars above and they are exceptional cars. He is willing to take $23,000 for the 1988 convertible. Both are now in Seattle, Washington.
https://seattle.craigslist.org/skc/cto/6166275802.html

This 1990 convertible is selling for $26,000. Its a little rarer than the 1988.
https://providence.craigslist.org/cto/6153359872.html

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cama...maro-iroc.html
I think these are priced correctly for the current market value.

He also has a beautiful blue 1990 convertible with a 5 speed under 3,000 miles that is not for sale. Quite a nice collection of verts!

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It wouldn't be appreciated by me, because a car in that condition pretty much can't be driven without degrading its' condition.


In other words, it's no longer a useful car, but something pretty to look at.


I'd take a #2 or #3 condition car that I can hop in and drive any day over something I can only look at, and wonder what it's like to drive.


If I owned a car museum, that would be a different issue.
I agree. But I'm just saying at a typical car show, where you have participant judging for example, a #1 car may go unnoticed. You may have a near perfect car like one of Erik's 1LEs, and 90,000 mile driver with some shiny bits and a couple of cans of tire foam, and that's the one many people will notice.

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Didn't notice til tonight how much my post grew, lol. Funny, a couple days after I put this out there the listing went away? And yea, that one in reading is NICE! Agree with 86 probably being the worst year for an IROC...
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Originally Posted by 1992 Trans Am
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/ws...153364659.html

This one is also very likely to get good money!
It bugs me when I see cars like this with a tire change. Yes, original tires at this age could be dried up & more than likely have cracking in the rubber but @ 3K miles, its not getting driven & obviously getting stored in a good location.
While I would't want to go across the country on 30 year old tires, they absolutely can survive well enough to stay on cars like this. I have several sets of vintage tires that are holding up very well.

There was a guy in the Los Angles area selling full set of hardly worn 1990 ZR's back in February on ebay. I would be willing to bet they came from this car.

I probably still have the info from that sale.......

EDIT: I digress, I see the car listed is a 1988, not a 1990. tires wouldn't be the same, just a location coincidence.

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