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I don't think you did, the car was worth more in parts than a whole, its not like there was anything special about it other than being a GTA, but its the most basic GTA you could get. A 2.73 drum rear end, LB9 Auto. Its nothing desirable worth restoring unless it was sentimental to the owner.
I don't think you did, the car was worth more in parts than a whole, its not like there was anything special about it other than being a GTA, but its the most basic GTA you could get. A 2.73 drum rear end, LB9 Auto. Its nothing desirable worth restoring unless it was sentimental to the owner.
I agree but look at bottom left corner to who it was delivered to
Not many of us see or touch a GM "test car", Let alone a third gen
PEP cars are new cars that are driven by GM employees for a short period of time before they're sold as used. Not as much a test car as an employee perk or quality assurance.
I think that stuff is pretty cool.
Probably not restoring a worn out car for, but still really neat to see IMO
I have a 78 Trans am that was built in April of 78 & invoiced to the dealer in August.
It went MIA under GM's watch for 4 months. Guessing it went through the same type of deal.
PEP cars are new cars that are driven by GM employees for a short period of time before they're sold as used. Not as much a test car as an employee perk or quality assurance.
I know PEP cars are nothing really special
Just what caught my eye was it was shipped to engineering dept ??
Too bad that car couldn't be saved. As I understand it, there aren't too many 91/92 GTAs around.
I consider it's history interesting. I've spent a lot of years working in that area, and for GM. Unfortunately, I know little of Pontiac.
If you use Google Maps for that address, you will see that it is the location of Auburn Pontiac (a Pontiac Dealer). They closed when Pontiac was killed.
I can't swear to know what year Auburn Pontiac opened for business, but I would say the building has a '70s/'80s vintage appearance. It's still there as a body shop, as you can see if you click on the image. It would be my guess that in '91, they would have been an active Pontiac dealer.
If a PEP vehicle, I would not expect it to be shipped to a Pontiac dealer address, but not in the dealers name. It strikes me as odd. I'm no expert, so I'll defer to someone here who has done more historical research on these things. But in my "Chevrolet" experience, the PEP (Product Evaluation Program) was handled by an outside vendor, providing vehicle prep and paperwork processing. They didn't use Metro Detroit dealers for that task that I knew of. I made a few trip to the lot of the company that did this work, picking up vehicles that were being purchased. I didn't know PEP vehicles were ever shipped to a dealer for processing. And if they were, I would expect the dealers name to appear in the lower left corner, along with their address.
Pontiac was a much smaller division than Chevrolet in '91, and the divisions still enjoyed a great deal of autonomy then. So it's entirely possible their process differed greatly from that of Chevrolet. But it still seems odd to have the Field Fleet name combined with Auburn Pontiac's address. Again, could just be they were the official processor for these back in the day.
Auburn did do a LOT of business (as many Metro Detroit dealers did, and still do) with employee ordered vehicles. This area in the '90s was a hotbed of truck engineering, testing, and manufacturing. As well as being one of the closer, if not the closest, Pontiac dealers to Pontiac headquarters.
Just interesting to me to see. I hope someone here with more knowledge of the Pontiac PEP program can chime in with some details.
I'm not saying it makes it rarer, or more valuable. But it is (to me anyway) and neat part of the cars history, and far from average.
Edit: Oh, and this all assumes that the "Engineering Field Fleet" is the same as a PEP vehicle. In my experience, PEP was PEP, and never went by another name. So again, kinda weird.
Last edited by DynoDave43; 07-30-2017 at 05:18 PM.
The Zone 35 & Dealer 995 are what you need to look at.
I'm not sure what 995 is but 997 is the engineering department. The car could have gone to engine development as a long term test vehicle but that is just a guess.
The Zone 35 & Dealer 995 are what you need to look at.
I'm not sure what 995 is but 997 is the engineering department. The car could have gone to engine development as a long term test vehicle but that is just a guess.
Hmmm......is it possible this car was pulled/ordered as a random QC car for testing ???
When I worked for Chevrolet last year and went to a conference, I talked with a plant worker from the Camaro flint factory and he said they randomly "pull" cars off the line for testing/QC purposes
IMO, The VIN # sequence isn't low enough for it to qualify as a PPV ???
07-29-2017, 09:35 PM
