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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:01 PM
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Gatorbacks.....

Well, some are probably going to think this is super dumb, but I just bought a really nice set of Gatorbacks. They have no cracking or dry rot. 2 of them look brand new. 2 are maybe 75%. Anyways, I'm going to put them on my 19k mile, 1986 IROC. The car rarely leaves the garage, and when it does its basically to local shows. My 87 needs rubber, so I'll use the tires that are on my 86 now, for the 87. Anyways, these Gatorbacks are on 4th gen salad shooter wheels that are SUPER NICE, but unfortunately there probably isn't a person anywhere that wants a nice set of them, so I don't know what I'll do with them lol. Anyways, I bought everything for $320, so I feel like I got a great deal, especially if I can sell the salad shooters. So if anyone needs a set, give me a shout!!

So, it may be dumb to put 30+ year old tires on my car, but like I said it rarely moves, anyways. I just don't think there has ever been a better looking tire for these cars. And these are the 245/50VR/16

And, i can mount them myself at our dealership where i work, so i don't have to worry about someone not wanting to mount old tires. I think some tire shops won't even mount tires that are over 10 years old

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And...They're on... Damn it, why can't they just reproduce these in our size already!!!





Old Dec 30, 2021 | 09:46 PM
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Nice find! I know Discount Tire won't touch anything that old!
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Old Dec 30, 2021 | 10:04 PM
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Great pick up!
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Old Jan 1, 2022 | 06:18 PM
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Great find!

Those center caps are probably desirable to the '91-'92 owners. There's probably zero market for the salad shooters, lol.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 07:32 AM
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Isn't that kind of dangerous?
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 08:46 AM
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Tires look great!!!.....but 'look' great and 'are' are 2 different things. If your just letting them sit on the car all good. But if you do take the car for a drive, be very very careful. Like they always say, accidents happen close to home. Even a short drive is ify. I wouldn't take them on a highway (4 lane). I had incredible looking Eagle F1 GS-D3's on my car, 16+ years old. I called various tire manufacturers (Goodyear, BF, Nitto, Etc, Etc) and big sellers (Tirerack, Tire Discount). Everyone agreed it wouldn't be safe driving highway speeds. Yes I know they all sell tires, but it isn't the 'look' of them, it's how they degrade with age. Just be careful is all.
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I think Darin is smart enough to understand the risks and to be cautious. It’s not his first rodeo.
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Old Jan 2, 2022 | 12:41 PM
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I think Darin is smart enough to understand the risks and to be cautious. It’s not his first rodeo.
Yea, that's why I said be careful is all.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 07:54 AM
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Great score! I have a set of looow mile 245/50/16 ZRs on an original set of 1990 formula wheels. May put them on my 89 formula 350 asc vert for pictures.... if I ever paint it.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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I would check the production date on those tires. I purchased a full set of new BFG Radial T/A tires in the fall of 2005. I ran those tires with 2000+ miles per year (mainly summers) until 2018 when cracks began to appear in the face of the front tires. I replaced them with BFG tires again. Remember, the tires saw little time in the sun where uva &ufb could affect, also.
I would be so worried on 30+ year old tires. They may look decent, but u do not know the conditions the tires faced over the years.
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Old Jan 3, 2022 | 03:13 PM
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Good looking tread, but if you do any highway driving at all, I don't think you should use them. Tires that old really are not safe.
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I think the OEM tires add to the all original appeal. I installed mine on a spare set of rims, and I run Hawk's 17's for daily use. Best of both worlds. These look like lots of tread still. Nice find.

If you take them to a tire shop, tell them it's for a show car. Ask for the valve stem to be mounted between the Good Year as well. Then all 4 wheels will be the same. (old car show trick for that extra point).

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And...They're on... Damn it, why can't they just reproduce these in our size already!!!





Old Jan 3, 2022 | 07:03 PM
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I like the grey valve stem caps. :-) OEM!
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I like the grey valve stem caps. :-) OEM!
Yes sir!
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Old Jan 4, 2022 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mark_ZZ3
I think the OEM tires add to the all original appeal. I installed mine on a spare set of rims, and I run Hawk's 17's for daily use. Best of both worlds. These look like lots of tread still. Nice find.

If you take them to a tire shop, tell them it's for a show car. Ask for the valve stem to be mounted between the Good Year as well. Then all 4 wheels will be the same. (old car show trick for that extra point).

Mark.
I agree with Mark having 2 sets. Best of both worlds. I also have a set of gators which have basically no miles on them. Will only use them for show only
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That Camaro is going to look good no matter what tires are on it.
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Re: Gatorbacks.....

Originally Posted by dagwood
Well, some are probably going to think this is super dumb, but I just bought a really nice set of Gatorbacks. They have no cracking or dry rot. 2 of them look brand new. 2 are maybe 75%. Anyways, I'm going to put them on my 19k mile, 1986 IROC. The car rarely leaves the garage, and when it does its basically to local shows. My 87 needs rubber, so I'll use the tires that are on my 86 now, for the 87. Anyways, these Gatorbacks are on 4th gen salad shooter wheels that are SUPER NICE, but unfortunately there probably isn't a person anywhere that wants a nice set of them, so I don't know what I'll do with them lol. Anyways, I bought everything for $320, so I feel like I got a great deal, especially if I can sell the salad shooters. So if anyone needs a set, give me a shout!!

So, it may be dumb to put 30+ year old tires on my car, but like I said it rarely moves, anyways. I just don't think there has ever been a better looking tire for these cars. And these are the 245/50VR/16

And, i can mount them myself at our dealership where i work, so i don't have to worry about someone not wanting to mount old tires. I think some tire shops won't even mount tires that are over 10 years old

Here's some pics...





I ran those wheels on a couple S10 4 wheel drives that I had TPI swapped .They fit that application really well. That may be a place to find a new home for the wheels, although I agree you will have no trouble selling the caps.
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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 09:37 AM
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Re: Gatorbacks.....

Originally Posted by ksr
That Camaro is going to look good no matter what tires are on it.
I agree!

Dang Darin, that car looks so gooood!!! Those gators sure add to the originality though.
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Where these tires first available on Corvettes?
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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 72buickgs
Where these tires first available on Corvettes?
84 anniversary TA and 84 vettes.
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Old Jan 5, 2022 | 03:40 PM
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What a find! Congratulations... I wish these were reproduced for those of us who would like to run the original VR/ZR Gatorback on our cars.
I would do it just for the look alone. I contacted Coker Tire last month and was told they are not looking to reproduce these in our 245/5016 size... but
they sell the 225/6015 Gatorbacks that the Mustang GTs ran in that era.
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Originally Posted by 72buickgs
Where these tires first available on Corvettes?

Back in the days when 16" wheels with 245 width tires were HUGE!
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Had them on my new 87 T/A.
Total junk and wore out fast!
Worthless in the rain and needed to be replaced at 13k miles.
Back then about impossible to find a 16 replacement............
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Low mile set of Gators for my restoration project






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I have a set with 125 miles on them😎
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I have a set with 125 miles on them😎
Lol yeah I know what they are on
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Originally Posted by 67restoproj
Low mile set of Gators for my restoration project
@67restoproj Hey those date codes don't match your car. Totally wrong. I mean the judges will deduct points. I'll trade you some tires, um, really good ones too. :-p
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I have a set with 125 miles on them😎
I had several rear sets in the 90s that had about that many miles on them but were bald when removed.. strange..
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I had several rear sets in the 90s that had about that many miles on them but were bald when removed.. strange..

Well at least I'm not the only one that experienced rear tire failure
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Re: Gatorbacks.....

Allow me to be the first to say, be care--, oh, wait! No worries, Cowboy, truth is, everyone is jealous. If they'd have found them, they'd also have purchased them AND installed them, too. Great find! Enjoy them while they're still holding air.

Yes, created for the all-new, 1984 Corvette. Developed for good wet-weather performance, nicknamed "Gatorback" because the tread pattern resembled the backside of an Alligator. C4's size was 255/50-16. 245 was chosen for 3rdgens. And even though it showed up on some Trans Ams in 1984, it wasn't publicized for 3rdgens until the debut of the 1985 IROC.

They were excellent, IMO. But they've garnered a lot of hate throughout the years, which is normal for most products, usually due to something personal.

They wore well, unless... But any tire will wear poorly if driven like that. I got 50,000 out of my original set. But I couldn't afford them after that. They cost between $200-$300 each in the 80s/90s. Most Goodyear tires are still in that price range today, so you can imagine how expensive that would've seemed back then.
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Re: Gatorbacks.....

Originally Posted by Mark_ZZ3
@67restoproj Hey those date codes don't match your car. Totally wrong. I mean the judges will deduct points. I'll trade you some tires, um, really good ones too. :-p

🤔....hmmmm
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"Like cat claws on velvet"
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Yep, I still have the original Gatorbacks that came on my car when I purchased it used back in ‘96. Two years after I bought the car, I took them off and put them in storage. When I get the car running again, I’m going to buy a second set of rims and mount them on there just for car shows. I sure wish they offered reproductions. They look good on these cars.

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