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Old Oct 3, 2025 | 10:13 AM
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The case of the wrong speedo...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/19...-z28-coupe-12/




​​​​​​No Reserve: 1,700-Mile 1991 Chevrolet Camaro Z28 1LE Coupe
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Old Oct 3, 2025 | 12:08 PM
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Does Carfax show mileage reported? I can't recall.

LOL at no CA smog.
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Old Oct 3, 2025 | 07:59 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

After I raised the question, this was the answer:


​​​​​​Hello,
Thanks to most of everyone giving us a moment to answer this 110MPH speedo. So, we came across some helpful-interesting news thanks to some folks at GM.

First, we confirmed with Chevrolet that this car’s VIN got cluster part #25088984 to make sure there wasn’t an anomaly at the factory. The 145MPH cluster came with the car which we all knew was probably the case.

However, the car’s gauges stopped working on 5/6/2022 at 1,623 miles- an entry in the Carfax shows this. The last mileage check in was a 8 months earlier at 1,601 miles. So, it appears all was good up until this point with pretty consistent mileage check-in’s since 2019.

I was told the cluster was “logic locked.” The cluster was subsequently replaced with a good condition cluster (albeit the wrong one) with mileage corrected.

Shortly after in March 2023, the car was sold to a gentleman (who we bought the car from) in North Carolina at 1,630 miles who received the car this way and had no idea of the replacement.

Either way, it is obvious the car’s mileage is true based on condition, originality, and undercarriage condition despite what we were able to verify today.
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Old Oct 4, 2025 | 09:14 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

Sounds reasonable to me.
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Old Oct 4, 2025 | 09:29 PM
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Sounds reasonable to me, too.
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Old Oct 5, 2025 | 01:39 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

I save pictures of 1LE cars. These are dated 9/2/2024.
Attached Thumbnails The case of the wrong speedo...-1g1fp2382ml157948_spid.jpg   The case of the wrong speedo...-375309451_268759969388775_7052607804709890624_n.jpg  
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Old Oct 8, 2025 | 01:29 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

Both of the auctions for these two 1LE Z28s are a textbook example of how not to put a 3rd gen on a two-post lift.

Smashed pinch welds for sure if you lift or jack up a 3rd gen where these guys are doing it at on the body.

Having the rear of the front fenders bowed out not matching the body lines of the front edges of the doors is not a pretty site on any 3rd gen much less extremely low mile examples like these two cars are. I can only hope that they got lucky doing it this way this time.
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

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Both of the auctions for these two 1LE Z28s are a textbook example of how not to put a 3rd gen on a two-post lift.

Smashed pinch welds for sure if you lift or jack up a 3rd gen where these guys are doing it at on the body.

Having the rear of the front fenders bowed out not matching the body lines of the front edges of the doors is not a pretty site on any 3rd gen much less extremely low mile examples like these two cars are. I can only hope that they got lucky doing it this way this time.
I didn't view the links to see how poorly they chose the lift points, but from what I remember when the cars were newer, it was extremely common for the passenger fender to be kicked out farther than the door. Even on cars without tweaked pinch welds.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 03:14 PM
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I didn't view the links to see how poorly they chose the lift points, but from what I remember when the cars were newer, it was extremely common for the passenger fender to be kicked out farther than the door. Even on cars without tweaked pinch welds.
I also remember the front and rear bumper cover paint not matching very well and the gap between the hatch and quarter panel being much larger on the passenger side than the driver side.

There are only 4 correct points to lift these cars from on a 2-post lift, and they managed to not find even 1 of them.





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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 06:15 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

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I also remember the front and rear bumper cover paint not matching very well and the gap between the hatch and quarter panel being much larger on the passenger side than the driver side.

There are only 4 correct points to lift these cars from on a 2-post lift, and they managed to not find even 1 of them.





Yeah, that's terrible.
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Sold! $50K.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 09:02 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

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Sold! $50K.
50k eh?!
Well, if nothing else it helps the cause for better value for what we own.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 09:28 PM
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50k eh?!
Well, if nothing else it helps the cause for better value for what we own.
Actually, that's a bit light for such a low mile car.

But.....you know, wrong speedo, smashed pinch welds, etc. Takes their toll.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 09:38 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

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Actually, that's a bit light for such a low mile car.

But.....you know, wrong speedo, smashed pinch welds, etc. Takes their toll.
I don't follow the price points all that closely although I can say I've seen that they're increasing. Which is understandable as it happens on most, if not all, platforms.
But I do have a couple of 3rd gen Camaros. The 82 that's complete but with a blown engine roller I bought for 700 bucks nearly 10 years ago, would certainly fetch considerably more today. That though wasn't the point of the purchase. It was more a case of finding a decent deal on a backup chassis should something untoward happen to the 86 I currently have plated. So far, touch wood, both live happily where they are.
That said, I've already started contemplating liquidating those two assets. It'll be few years yet and then perhaps even greater appreciation in value. But I didn't get either of them as an investment.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 09:45 PM
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Yeah, I don't buy them as investments either. I mean, you don't want to overpay or lose money. But I've never bought one with the intent of making money.
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Old Oct 9, 2025 | 09:54 PM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

Any rate of return goes right out the window if you choose to modify them. That's a given. Mine is well documented and I'll say as a whole, it's worth less than it would be parted out.
In the meantime, I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. It's been ten years since I've been racing in anger, and now that I'm back, I hope to get that ROI in enjoyment. I'd almost forgotten how much I just like driving it.
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Old Dec 15, 2025 | 09:49 AM
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Re: The case of the wrong speedo...

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Yeah, I don't buy them as investments either. I mean, you don't want to overpay or lose money. But I've never bought one with the intent of making money.
Someone posted the 5 speed from the same owner that sold for 52K was back up for sale on Mecum. The link is no longer available so just wondering did anyone know of the sale on Mecum?
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