quick gauge cluster question
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quick gauge cluster question
I have a 1985 Trans Am with a Chevy 350 carb in it, lots of go fast parts. the speedo only goes up to 85, I can get it up to 85 in like 3rd gear [ 5 spd trans]
how can I change the speedo to something like a 145? do I have to change the whole gauge cluster?
can i buy an aftermarket gauge and put it in? even thou there is a circuit board thing on the back of the cluster?
any help would be much appreciated.
how can I change the speedo to something like a 145? do I have to change the whole gauge cluster?
can i buy an aftermarket gauge and put it in? even thou there is a circuit board thing on the back of the cluster?
any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
I know Auto Meter is has a good reputation for gauges and for 82-89 Camaros they sell a gauge and panel combo with Covan's Classic. I don't think they made one for your year Firebird. I'd check the size of the gauges and see if you could get like a 160 speedometer from Summit Racing. What I've done with a problem is to call Summit and talk to someone long enough to have them find a few gauges.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
You can swap out just the speedo or the cluster. Some of the clusters may be different for different years so you could check the difference in the pin outs to be sure.
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Car: 1991 Chevy Camaro RS w/t-tops
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
I'd check like ebay. I'd bet you can buy one pretty cheap new used or refurbished from a firebird the same year. Theres lots of stuff out there. As a backup try craigslist, but I'm not real fond of craigslist. Or if you didn't already, post something in the parts wanted. I'm sure between those you can find a speedo
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Car: 1985 trans am
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
yeah, I think ima just buy an aftermarket one, would an aftermarket one fit in place of the stock one inside the cluster ? and use the same speedo cable?
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
Umm thats a good question. I'm more of a mechanical than cosmetics guy. I would say yes. You can buy speedometers that are cable driven. The main thing you need is the gauge diameter. Its probably 3 3/8 as a guess. Its a common size.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
I just bought a 160 mph speedo from Street side for my 86. It is a 3 and 3/8 cable drive. I'm doing a custom autometer set up. However they carry dozens of different types, electric and mechanical. Just click the link below and then click the face style you are interested in and it will give you a bunch of options.
http://www.streetsideauto.com/catego...638&brand=BDHZ
http://www.streetsideauto.com/catego...638&brand=BDHZ
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
Check Summit Racing's website too it might be a little cheaper.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
no aftermarket gauge will fit directly in the stock pod. And your 85 has a cable driven speedo. With some work you can convert to an electric speedo signal and use a 86-92 stock 145mph gauge
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
didn't really want to do anything electrical, I think I am going to just throw in an aftermarket 160 speedo and make it fit
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
If that's the direction you want to go, some people have done some really nice aftermarket Firebird dashes on here if you do a search.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
well im not doing the whole dash, just the speedometer, but I am gonna try and make it look somewhat stock, like im going to keep it black with white #'s
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
Let me know how it goes. If you can post a finished picture. I have a Firebird in the shop that needs some electrical work
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
cool. I am actually soon going to start rewiring my whole car. the wiring in this car is horrendous.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
Me too. I'm doing a BBC carb'd swap so I'll probaby save like 20 lbs of wiresno joke.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
ha, im gonna be taking out 20 pounds of wires too. because mine was swapped to a carbed 350, like i said, anyways they left in all the ecu and all that ****. and they added a buncha ****, its horrible.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
Go digital... My Speedo goes up to 300
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
im kinda on a budget, and a whole brand new digital dash over a speedo isnt in that budget. haha
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
If only they made one of those clusters for the Firebird/Trans-AM I'd do exactly that.
I thought they went to electronic speedometers in Firebirds starting in 1987? So anything from 1987 on up is an electric and 1982-1986 are mechanical. At least for the Firebirds. The Camaro may be a different story.
I thought they went to electronic speedometers in Firebirds starting in 1987? So anything from 1987 on up is an electric and 1982-1986 are mechanical. At least for the Firebirds. The Camaro may be a different story.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
I know a guy that has a digital dash for a firebird not sure the year maybe 87. If someone needs one I'll ask him a price and info. Its in pretty good shape
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
aww they dont sell them anymore i cant find them on their site
Re: quick gauge cluster question
I have a 1985 Trans Am with a Chevy 350 carb in it, lots of go fast parts. the speedo only goes up to 85, I can get it up to 85 in like 3rd gear [ 5 spd trans]
how can I change the speedo to something like a 145? do I have to change the whole gauge cluster?
can i buy an aftermarket gauge and put it in? even thou there is a circuit board thing on the back of the cluster?
any help would be much appreciated.
how can I change the speedo to something like a 145? do I have to change the whole gauge cluster?
can i buy an aftermarket gauge and put it in? even thou there is a circuit board thing on the back of the cluster?
any help would be much appreciated.
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Re: quick gauge cluster question
hey all, i am in the process of swapping and truing to figure out if i need to keep the wires running from the ecm to the buffer box
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