Restoring interior plastic and carpet how-to
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The interior pieces in my 84 are originally the light blue color as the rest of the interior. It has faded/chipped away since then. From the end of the hatch glass to the end of the car is good condition, but the rest is crumbling away in this fine sandy type stuff. I was told to do almost this same thing in this tutorial, but sand it down with real fine sandpaper to smooth out the scratches in it and get rid of the sand stuff coming off. Would that work?
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When it becomes sandy like that from drying out, it is really hard to get it sand smooth. You could also lose the texture of the plastic that is on the good parts you have, depending on how "deep" the sandy/brittleness. You might be better off if you were to pick up some cheap replacement panels (can be almost any color) from the for sale section.
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Bringing back an old thread - I called Baps to order some paint and they told me they needed a code from GM for the color. None of the codes on my cowl tag for the interior worked. He suggested I bring in a piece to match. That's a little inconvenient as I live in NYC. How did you get the interior color code for your car, or did you bring in the piece to match?
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Guys! don't use any sprays for plastic interior!
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
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If it is done right, it will hold up fine. I painted an armrest with SEM 6 years ago, and it has held up great on my daily driver that I abuse the heck out of. It's all in the prep. If you don't prep the plastic properly the paint will peel and scratch off.
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Bringing back an old thread - I called Baps to order some paint and they told me they needed a code from GM for the color. None of the codes on my cowl tag for the interior worked. He suggested I bring in a piece to match. That's a little inconvenient as I live in NYC. How did you get the interior color code for your car, or did you bring in the piece to match?
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Guys! don't use any sprays for plastic interior!
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
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Re: Restoring interior plastic and carpet how-to
Guys! don't use any sprays for plastic interior!
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
I got my Firebird with factory gray trim, being painted black by previous owner. It was scratched everywhere and i couldn't move black paint off. I used even gasoline but there was no result...
So I used 6 square meters of carpet to cover all the interior, except door panels and front panel.
This is such a carpet as is used to cover subwoofer boxes. You can find it in car audio stores. It stratches perfect, so is very easy to work with. I used rubber glue to stick it to plastic.
Here some pics.
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Do you have a RPO code sheet in your console?
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Maybe you can look up the rpo code for charcoal black,their has to be a code.If your keeping it the same color that's even better when you paint it.I painted carmine red on carmine red.
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The guy was asking me for a paint code. I thought 18E would be the code he needed. What did you give him when you ordered your paint?
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If you check the attachment, 18E is for charcoal Recaro interior. I think the letter denotes the trim inside, because it looks like the 18D is for the PMD seats. It lists 18E9 for the Recaro interior. But my tag underhood only has it listed as 18E. I wonder if 18 is the interior paint code color?
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The attachment didn't work. Here is a link.
http://www.82firebird.com/Download/1...rddecoding.pdf
http://www.82firebird.com/Download/1...rddecoding.pdf
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Right you have the vinyl,so your trim is charcoal 18R notice the cloth has the other codes.
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It was nos.& letters,mine is 72C
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That's similar to my code. 72 must be Carmine Red, and the C is the type of seats you have.. Maybe I talked to the wrong guy. Do you remember who you spoke to over there?
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Are your seats vinyl or cloth,according to your info the Recaro seats were only available in cloth it has two **.
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So the way I see it is,if your seats are cloth you order 18ED.If your seats are vinyl you order 18R.
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I just spoke to the right guy, and he was able to get me the paint! If you guys call the York PA store, talk to Dennis. He seems to know his stuff. All he needed was the code 18. How many cans did you order? I got 3 off of him. Is that enough?
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I'm sorry my trim is 72I,my seats are 72C,the C denotes cloth,the I denotes the trim,I don't think it matters much on the color of the trim or the cloth it's all 72.In your case it's all 18.
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We keep jumping messages,yes 3 is enough,I ordered 3 and I did two coats and had about half can left.
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Subscribing. Looks like from my RPO codes I'll need color 82 (med dk grey).
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Yep - I will post up some pics when I get them done. It's my winter project, so it might not be till after the holidays. I am supposed to get the paint next week.
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My local pull-a-part has a Carmine red interior 89 RS I was gonna buy all the plastics out of (already have the door panels!) idk if I should still get it tho. How many cans will cover all the plastics?
Edit: I see I need 3 cans. Hawk can you post pics of your interior? Carmine red is my fav interior color in these cars and I would love to see yours all together.
Edit: I see I need 3 cans. Hawk can you post pics of your interior? Carmine red is my fav interior color in these cars and I would love to see yours all together.
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3 cans would do two coats with a half can left.
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BAPS,their in York PA,I don't know if they take orders online,but your better off talking to a sales person.717-767-6544 According to 82tarecaro ask for Dennis.
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Great thread. After reading this though you guys are making me feel bad about ditching the carmine interior in my car. However it looks like I'll be painting my carmine plastic pieces black to go with some ebony 4th gen seats
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My local pull-a-part has a Carmine red interior 89 RS I was gonna buy all the plastics out of (already have the door panels!) idk if I should still get it tho. How many cans will cover all the plastics?
Edit: I see I need 3 cans. Hawk can you post pics of your interior? Carmine red is my fav interior color in these cars and I would love to see yours all together.
Edit: I see I need 3 cans. Hawk can you post pics of your interior? Carmine red is my fav interior color in these cars and I would love to see yours all together.
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Sticky this thread,he saved my interior.
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Great info ... thanks Hawk!
Here's a totally stupid question: can the same aerosol dye be used on the carpet as well as the plastic panel itself? The carpet on my pace car is in good shape, is just faded.
Also, I assume if the panels are really scratched and gouged, that the 1000 grit scuff won't really fix that and replacement panels are necessary.
Here's a totally stupid question: can the same aerosol dye be used on the carpet as well as the plastic panel itself? The carpet on my pace car is in good shape, is just faded.
Also, I assume if the panels are really scratched and gouged, that the 1000 grit scuff won't really fix that and replacement panels are necessary.
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STICKY!!!!!
This is an amazing wealth of info and awesome considering how CHEAPLY it can be done.
This is an amazing wealth of info and awesome considering how CHEAPLY it can be done.
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Hey 82 how did you make out with your project.
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FormerL69,what color is you interior??
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Amazing... this has to be a sticky
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I just did the sills today with the PPG paint. It is a good match, maybe 1/2 shade lighter. But considering that none of the plastics seem to match from the factory, it should look good once everything is the exact same shade. I will take a pic when the paint cures and the sheen evens out.
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That's great,I'd like to see the end result.








