Neweraracer

Guys i need sone help, ive got a 91 rs with stock gauges and instrument housing. I want to digital wether it be intellitronix or anything. Im looking for an aluminum instrument housing that fights intellitronix digi gauges, all i can find is this

http://www.camarocentral.com/mobile/...ctCode=DAS-393

Which is nice but it has 5" holes for speedo and tach and intellitronix are only 3" :/ .. any help advice and suggestions are welcome.

No4Play

I got mine installed yesterday but there is a brown wire coming from the gauges I don't know what to connect to...any help? Here is a couple of pics.

Dale

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There are a few wires that don't get used. upshift, anti theft light.. I am thinking there was another as well.

Beater79TA

Is the brown wire part of the factory cluster or the Intellitronix cluster? Some of the factory wires don't attach to anything. All of the Intellitronix wires should attach to something.

No4Play

It's part of the intellitronix cluster

No4Play

I've got an ls6 in mine so I just did straight connection to all my ls senders and PCM gauge wires. Everything works I just have to cal the speedo. The brown wire is killing me lol

Beater79TA

Doubt the water temp will be accurate with the LS senders. At least the Firebird panel I'm using doesn't work with the factory TPI sender so there isn't any reason to think it will work with the LS sender. I put the water temp sender in the back of the passenger head which will be a true pain to reach if the motor is already in the car. Gas gauge might be another issue if you used a 4th gen tank on your swap since the sender puts out a different signal. That one doesn't appear to be programmable either so you'll need a 3rd gen sender signal for it. Oil pressure and voltage shouldn't be a problem though.

And, again, assuming the wiring is the same as the Firebird panel, the brown wire goes to the high beam indicator light to turn on the high beam indicator on the panel. Not sure which wire that is in your dash harness though.

No4Play

Water temp is accurate +\-2* thanks for the help on the wire!!!!

C-Titan

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The Aluminum Gauge Bezel is custom cut from a store on e-bay years ago... The smoked lens cover comes with the Nordskog Performance Digital Gauge Kit... I have had these gauges installed for over 6 years, maybe even 7 by now and I have NEVER had a single issue with ANYTHING... Remember though, my gauges were made Pre-Buyout - which could make all the difference - I prefer mine anyway due to Nordskog sticking with the same gauge layout that GM had straight out of the factory. No idea why intellitronix would screw with that... I hate the new look

Beater79TA

Lesson learned over the weekend. When swapping to a LS motor with the Intellitronix dash, if you spliced power and ground to existing wires in the dash harness be prepared to redo those wires with dedicated power and ground as the harness chopping required for the motor swap does bad things to the ground connections. Especially if your car started life as a factory digital dash car.

No4Play

Correct I used power and ground from my swap fuse box

damarck@hotmail

Ohhh ... wonderfull !
Can you take a video and share it ?

Tks in advance ...

LsxMatt

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Well my odometer decided to reset again today for the third time. This time i was around 500 miles. Started it up in the morning, and i have 0 miles again, and my speedo says I'm going 255 at 40. Recalibrated again, and its fine... About to pick up a converter box and a 145mph speedo...

No4Play

Mine did the same thing twice. The first time was around 530 miles the second at 5 miles and the speedo reads 0 no matter how fast you go. not sure why it's doing it but if it continues to be a problem I'm going a different route. The gauges look sick but I can't keep having them reset on their own especially because it's my wifes car and she doesn't know how to recal them.

LsxMatt

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Yea, i have no idea whats going on. I called up intellitronix and they told me i must be getting a stray signal from somewhere which is resetting the cluster. They suggested i use their gps sender for the speedo.

camarosource

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WOW! I have to admit, when I first heard of the instrument panel years ago I was extremely thrilled and even Photoshopped the gauges in the car to see what would look better (which color).. I was opting for Blue to match the car (Even tho I heard BLUE was the weakest in brightness).

However I held off once I heard it was NOT PLUG AND PLAY like they originally advertised.

I am GLAD I held off because they sure seem like one heck of a problem getting them to work and stay working... More trouble that there're worth (including pun intended because they are NOT CHEAP).

LsxMatt

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Yea it sucks.. I bought mine refurb for 190.00 so at least i didn't pay the 400.00+ they go for new. No4Play, what connection did you use for power and ground? I grounded mine on the chassis next to the fuse box, and use the power source for the stock cluster. Dont know if changing power sources would do anything, as well as grounding it to the block...

KITT1983

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I wish there was a place I could send out my spare gauge cluster to be converted to red digital gauges.

LsxMatt

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Mine is like totally done now. The mileage reset again at 54, and now the speedo losses calibration everytime i restart the car. Says im going 255 at a roll.

Beater79TA

Not sure what he did but I put a relay in place to pull power directly from the battery and activate the relay using one of the open fuse spots that provides switched 12 volt. Grounds all went directly to the chassis under the dash. Everything seems to be fine now.

LsxMatt

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I took the cluster out today to hook up my check engine light. I moved the ground wire to a factory ground connection under the dash, and gave it a 12 volt switched power source from the fuse box, not the original cluster power source. Unfortunately still does the same thing. The mileage hasn't reset yet, but the calibration doesn't save. Once the car is turned off it calibrates to 374 every time, and the speedo is ridiculously high.

LsxMatt

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Sent intellitronix and email today about the lifetime guarantee. Ill let you guys know what they say. Not too sure if i really want another one though with all these issues...

Jeffs82TA

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think brown wire would have gone to the emergency brake light.

camarosource

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I too was just about to ask that. They specify a LIFETIME warranty but with no mention of what exactly that entitles. A LIFETIME warranty on electronics like this is literally UNHEARD OF these days; usually a LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY where conditions can be specified..

Lifetime as far as LIFETIME in regards to the cars lifetime, or YOUR LIFE TIME PERIOD? Lifetime to cars usually is 10 years and not 20+ years like with my car... Everything wears out with age so how can you specify a warranty FOREVER and what classifieds as under warranty? Obviously a MANUFACTURING defect.. But pretty hard to convince a defect after say 10 years on an electronic instrument panel. ;-)

C-Titan

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After almost 8 years of them being in my car, I haven't had one single issue with them what so ever... My speedo has been recalibrated around 3 times for switching out rear gears and 2 different sets of wheels... Dead batteries have never caused an issue, mileage and measurements are all on point... Considering these are original from Nordskog, the company that intellitronix bought out, I'm not surprised the redesigned products are having an issue. There's that classic saying - don't fix whats not broken - seems to perfectly fit in this case... Oh and the Blue are EXTREMELY bright... haha

Here's a cell pic shortly after the install

LsxMatt

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I got so pissed off with this cluster i pulled it out and I'm running the stock cluster with no speedometer for now. Cable x box is like 300 bucks, which i really don't want to spend. I ordered the GPS sender from summit for the intellitronix cluster as a last resort, which i really hope works. Mileage got glitched at 45380 before i pulled it out, just was flickering on that number. Unplugging the vss wire and the battery didn't change anything either. Really want this sender to work. Its suppose to be coming tomorrow, so wish me luck!

camarosource

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It's interesting AND PUZZLING as to the fact that Intellitronix Corp has a A+ Rating in Better Business Bureau even with all these problematic gauges..

LsxMatt

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Yea i dont understand it. I read on a jeep forum some other guy was having the same issue with his speedometer. It would reset calibration everytime the car turned off, and the mileage would gets stuck at 43,000. Intellitronix wouldnt reply to my warranty emails either.

LsxMatt

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Well the gps unit did nothing. It gets the signal from gps, but you still have to calibrate the cluster for it. So instead of the speed signal coming from the vss then being calibrated, it comes from the gps unit, then has to be calibrated. So intellitronix telling me to buy this was an absolute waste, being my main issue is the cluster no longer saves calibration😡

C-Titan

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sorry you're having issues man - I guess quality control went down after intelli' bought nordskog performance... Still no issues with my Nordskog OG's.

No4Play

I just installed my gps unit from intellitronix and it works ok. The gauge default is set at 8000 ppm. Reset the cluster to default by putting into cal mode press once to start cal and press and hold. You will see err and then it will reset. Be sure to change the switches in the GPS unit to 8000 ppm. I think the setting is switch 1 on and switch 2 off. The problem I'm having now is the speedo will read my speed while I am speeding up but if I slow down the speedo doesn't correspond to the slower speed. It stays at whatever speed I got up to even if I'm going slower. It takes 5 minutes approximately to register that I slowed down. Not sure if it's an issue with the gps communicating with the satellite being delayed or the gauges processing the signal from the gps being delayed.

Dale

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I had a speedometer issue on mine after 6000 miles. I emailed them and said it had a lifetime warranty, send it in. Got it back last week and installed it over the weekend. Drove it this morning first time and its reading severally low. Hope its just a calibration issue. Waiting to hear back to see if they did a reset or flashed any memory in it.

KITT1983

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Is there a company that I can send out my spare gauge cluster to be converted to digital?

No4Play

Interesting...have you tried re calibrating yet? It seems like the more I drive it the quicker it has been responding. It still has about a 5 minute delay for adjusting speed when I slow down it just doesn't seem as bad

92GTA

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This tech is kinda 80's isn't it? Why not make the entire dash an LCD going to a small computer that is hooked into the ALDL port? Then you could customize the display to show you what you want and where you want it?

I've always lusted to having something like Tuner Pro R/T on my dash haha!

cdoyle

that is exactly what I would love to see someone develop. That would look great, and you could customize it whenever you want.

92GTA

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I could do it if we could find a screen with the right dimensions and suitable specs.

Dale

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Last I looked, our cars are 80's and 90's.

To each their own, but I dislike all this lcd/led screen stuff for displays other then a tv or pc.

leoo456

does anyone know if this will this work on a 85 berlinetta?

Dale

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No it wont.

On another note, I am now experiencing the crappy customer service others have talked about. Ive emailed, as well called and left a voice mail. No response back.

RED-FIREBIRD

Several months ago I've bought Firebird Digital Panel for 82-90 Firebird and GPS speedometr sending unit

But I have a problem with it:

Than the car stands and I push the gas pedal and raise the engine rpm, after 3300-3600 my speedometr begins show crasy speed))) Plese notice - the car doesn't move, 3300-3600 rpm, speedometr is jumping from 0 to 200, 150, 160, 80, 100 mph...
Why does it happen?
Did anyone solved the problem withspeedo calibration?

rocn7roc

How is the connection made to the computer for VSS from the speedo or speed sensor so as not to set off a code Thanks Mike

Dale

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IIRC, you are to tee into the vss wires pre computer. Then calibrate the cluster to your tire/axle combo.

I did mine differently because I have a newer style pcm(LS1 style). I used the same cluster wire and calibrated my pcm to match the default settings of the cluster.

Beater79TA

If you have an electronic speedo from the factory just splice the existing speedo wire from the ecm to the cluster into the Intellitronix speedo wire and calibrate the speedo for 4000 ppm.

Dale

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The mfg has come across this post and has read some of the comments n feedback. They contacted me and are wanting to get any issues fixed, whatever it may be.

If you are still having issues, please pm me and I will give you an email direct to the person who designed and is in charge of this unit.

KITT1983

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Any updates? Is there a company that I send my cluster to converted to the digital cluster.

Beater79TA

The Intellitronix one you just order and install yourself. Not that hard unless wiring intimidates you.

knight1982

Hello every1,

Just had a set of these digital gauges put in my 1984 Trans am.

They look sweet!!

I am getting the code 24 VSS error code.

I am also getting my odometer /trip display rapidly cycling from one to the other once I get to 30mph...

I read earlier about bypassing the vss and wiring into the wire that goes to the ECM....

Would the same apply to the '84 cars?

This has the cable from the trans, to the back of the analogue speedo, then the vss pickup goes to the yellow box that then plugs into the gauge harness.

Any info and help appreciated.

Michael.

Dale

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Are you running a stock ecm? Because I thought they didn't have a vss to start with.

knight1982

Yes the stock ECM is there.

1984 firebird has a vss, first year for it.