I may need some tech support. I found 4th gen power black leather seats crazy cheap. Kinda wanted to get OEM black manual 3rd gen cloth seats to match the original bill of sale but for $300 I had to jump on them.

The carpet is in pretty good shape. I removed the old seats and found all sorts a nick-nacks under them: about $10 in change, a worthless baseball card from the '80's, a Barbie shoe and 2...not 1 but 2 Lee-Press-on-nails in metalic fusha...aaaaaah the '80's.

Today I shampoo'd the living hell out of the carpet and its glowing.

I put the leather driver's seat in, so the car is drivable, (lined right up easy) but I'm going to need some help wiring the power seats to a car that originally did not have power seats. Any diagrams, links or advice will be extremly helpful. Please be discriptive, I'm far from a mechanic, I'm a very, very, VERY dumb old Marine!

New Black Leather 4th Gen Seats - out of a Trans Am:



Pics of old chewed up seats:

 

should be able to find using google. if not get a service manual. go on LS1 tech and check as well. had one in my car while my seats were getting done. sorry, but 4th gen seats are uncomfortable junk imo.


great price though.

 

Nice! the wiring is very simple on these, all you need is 12 volts to the orange wire to the seat motor.. you can tap into the 12v from the cigarette lighter in the console.

 

Battman...uuuuhhhhh, you lost me at orange wire! LOL! Can I get some sort of wiring harness and run it under the carpet to the fusebox?

Shome pics after shampooing:

 

You can run wire from fusebox and ground wire just under the seat.I run wire from window switch in console.

 

the carpet turned out good!

There is a plug with a orange wire and a black wire coming from under the seat, cut the plug and connect the orange wire to a 12 volt source from the fuse box or by removing the center section from your console and splicing in to the wire that supplies 12v to the cigarette lighter ( I use this method because its already fused at the fuse box and its easy to run under the carper from the console) the black wire just needs to be grounded to the body, again under the console is a good place because there are already grounding points there you can add to.

 

Battman - I think I got it. I'm going to give it a shot.

 

Battman - Jeez, I need to get the wiring done on the power seat this weekend. I just put the drivers seat in so I could drive to work and its stuck in the upward forward position, for removal and install, I'm driving with my legs bent and my head hitting the ceiling! Do I need to remove the center console to wire it in?

 

I used power(+) from window switch or just run from fuse box ( yes you need to remove something to hide wires.Ground simply you can run from any metal under the seat.Cut original connector and install new connectors so you can remove seat whenever you want without cutting wires. Enjoy power seat.

 

Grabbing wires and connectors on way home from work!

 

Battman - u still there? Just tested seat off battery and it works. Looking under console and the power Windows have black, blue and pink wires. Tap into the pink wire?

 

Pink would be the one!

 

Battman - you're the man. Did it. Hid hot wire thru console and grounded the neg wire to one of the seat bolts.

 

4th gen driver seat is installed. I included pictures of the seat and how to wire the 4th gen seat to a 3rd gen Firebird ,that was originally non-power seat equipt. Works great.

 

Hey Batman, you didn't see the big Bat logo in the sky? Hahaha! I need some more advice. You're the expert.



So the leather 4th gen 2 rear bucket seats slid right in, along with the fold down back. It looks killer. The Driver seat 6 way power functions work perfect.



Now its time for the passenger seat. The passenger seat is NOT power besides the inflate lumbar and side supports. I see the same orange wire in the harness. I assume I can run this to the other power window?


The Question is how do I get the lumbar and side supports to inflate in both the driver and passenger seats?


I included a picture of the hoses on the driver seat and the power connector and hoses on the passenger seat.

 

I hope this can help you
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...er-lumbar.html
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...bird-seat.html

 

CAMAROSKI - Thanks dude, I'll check it out now

 

There is a seperate harness for the power lumbar.Would of been easier to get it from the donor car.The harness integrates the pass/Dr switches thru relays, since there is only one pump for both seats.

Simply providing power to the plug pictured will not operate the lumbar features.There is also a single air line that crosses over from the dr to pass side.So when the pass seat is adjusted only that seat will receive air.Even though the pump is on the driver seat.

 

84 1LE - I got the seats as they were for an unbeatable price - No harness. No worries, I made the harness with some colored 14-gauge wire, hose and connectors. Not sure what the harness looks like but I wanted to hide it from plan view (didn't want to wrap it around the back of the center console) so I drilled 2 holes on the driver side and 2 holes on the passenger side of the console (low and hidden by the seat) for the 2 hoses to pass from seat to seat. I then threaded the hose through with caps on each end so I can connect and disconnect the seats easily if I need to. I included pictures.

 

Factory routing is under the carpet/over the trans tunnel to other side.You should do this so the seat track doesnt catch on it.

 

I'm going under the seat track, there's no movement there, and the cushion of the seat does not rub (plenty of room). I slid both seats forward and back and its not rubbing. Not that I move my seats much anyway. It seems to work fine.

 

Here are the 4th gen seat wires ready for me to plug in my home made harness. I should finish it tomorrow.

 

Finished the 4th gen power leather seat install. All wired in, the 6 way power adjust works on the driver seat and both seats inflate/deflate. The inside of the Bird looks way cool. They really turned the interior around. I'll post pics tomorrow. Thanks for all the tech advice!

 

ive had problems with this on my camaro. Could never figure out what to wire it to, or what to buy at a store. Can any one give me a list of materials to get this done?

 

4th Gen Power Leather Seat Install

aqualordx93 - I am very far from anything remotely close to a mechanic or electrician so when I tell you anyone can do it, I mean it. It took me the weekend, but I took my time. There are a few ways to do this. This is how I did it:

The Lumbar and side inflation device is under the passenger seat so you need to connect both seats via hose and wire inorder to get air to the driver seat. Each wire needs to be connected to the same colored wire on the other seat, except the Orange hot wire and Black ground wire. The hoses between each seat need to connect right hose to right hose and left hose to left hose.

You need:

Material:
Red Wire
Black Wire
Gray Wire
Pink Wire
Purple Wire
Orange Wire
(I used 14-gauge primary wire to prevent shorts)
Wire Connectors
4ft Hose
Hose Connectors

Tools:
Wire cutter
Ratchet (remove seats and to secure ground)
Drill

1. Cut the factory connectors off the wiring on each seat and install male connectors on each wire (easier to do with seats not installed).

2. Label the right and left hose then cut the factory connector off the hoses and install 4 connectors (easier to do with seats not installed).

3. BEFORE installing seats (it can be done with seats installed just a pain-in-the-butt). Drill two holes low, and hidden by the seat, on the driver and passenger side of the center console. Thread 2 2ft sections of hose into the center console through the holes. Remove the top of the console so you can thread it through easier and ensure none of the 2 hoses are hitting any moving parts (shifter or E-brake). Once threaded put 4 connectors on the 4 hose ends.

4. Thread the pink, red, gray and purple wire up under the center console on the passenger side and out the bottom of the driver side, again ensuring its not getting hung up on any moving parts (Shifter or E-brake).

5. Thread one strand of orange wire under the driver seat to the driver's side power window hot wire (its pink) and 1 strand under the passenger seat to the passenger seat power window hot wire (also pink).

6. Put the seats in. And ensure the wires/hoses are going under the track where there is minimal movement when the seat moves. Also ensure the wires are all long enough for the seats to move forward and back without ripping them out. Put female connectors on both ends of each wire . Ground the black wire from each seat to a seat bolt.

6. Connect the hoses on the seat to the hose you threaded through the center console with the connectors and connect the respective colored wires to each other on both seats.

That should do it. Test it out. If it works then tuck all the wires/hoses under the seat nice and neat.

Like I said, there are a few different ways of doing this, and a few other treads. This way worked pretty well.

 

My seats dont have Lumbars, maybe that is a plus, haha. When you did it to the power widow wire, did you have trouble cutting the wire? there old and brittle, i would be worried about snapping them or something.

 

That makes things way easier. If you don't have the lumbar support just send the hot under the center console to the power window switch and ground to a seat bolt on the floor. I didn't even cut the power window wire. I just kinda plugged it in where the hot power window wire meets the power window switch. It should be a real easy fix.

My car was pretty trashed when I got it, but the wires are good for the most part. I just replace the ones that are falling apart when I come across them.

 

Here are the pics of the old and new seats:

Old: 3rd Gen Black Cloth manual seats (showing signs of wear with rips):



4th Gen Black Leather 6-way power with lumbar support seats (almost perfect):

 

Here are the seats installed and fully functional, its like a new car!

Notice the custom leather wrapped center console lid...YEAH RIGHT! Its electrical tape wrapped because you guys keep snipe bidding the black console lids out from under me on SleezBay! LOL!

 

those are absolutely identical to what i did in my 1987. Lumbar and all. Sure nicer than the old seats, ain't they?

 

Those are really nice when I get more money I gotta switch mine out.

 

Cadaver Puncher - thank you. Just start shopping now and by the time you have the cash, you would have found a set you like!

 

IROZINCO - as you know 1st hand, they're awesome. When I get up for work, I like the smell of leather in morning...smells like...victory.