82' Z28

http://imgur.com/Ojnk2pW

1982 Z28

Black_TA

They just call it a shifter rod, I broke mine, never could get it to work right.
Try looking on eBay thats where I found mine.

82' Z28

Oh my from what I'm seeing I can't just replace the plastic bit itself? but the assembly

Or there's just no reproductions from hawks or summit and no used ones listed online currently but I'll keep searchin'

battmann

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I may have an extra one. I'll check my garage tonight.

82' Z28

If you did that'd be amazing and I could PayPal.

This says 87-92 but everything seems to be 82-92 except doors apparently for 91-92 so I think this should work yeah?

http://m.ebay.com/itm/162198995812

fervernt

If you're looking I might be able to get you my old one once I get it out for my manual swap. Out of a 92 firebird, I think it would fit but make sure you do your research and see.

82' Z28

http://www.ebay.com/itm/271768706751?redirect=mobile

So can anyone confirm I do have to replace the entire assembly? That really sucks a lot of bones and am kicking myself even more. I'd tried pulling it out too with no success.

From that eBay link I found on another thirdgen thread it seems detent rods could be changed themselves on his 85.

84 1LE

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Links aren't working.I may have it, if I could see it.

82' Z28

This is what I saw from that 85 thread

http://imgur.com/Rno0mlS

rarebmx

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Mine broke while two hours away at a car show. I had to figure out a quick solution using a McDonald's straw & a few straw wrappers. LOL. True story. Two months later I'm still driving it like that. Thank you for reminding me I need to fix correctly.
Hit a junk yard, I would think numerous GM shifters would use the same part.

82' Z28

Well that's actually reassuring that I could use or manufacture perhaps in metal my own if worse comes to worse.

I can't pull the bottom out with my hands, do I need to open the center console/shifter to remove the rod? Or could I pull it out with pliers?

82' Z28

Dang that eBay seller told me the 87 shifter assembly would not work, I do not know still if I could still purchase it just to re-use the shifter rod.

EDIT: Alright Google tells me I must take out the shifter assembly to remove the shifter rod via a few bolts, (thankfully I didn't try with am my might to rip it out w/ pliers haha) I suppose I'll just buy an 82-89 Shifter assembly and take the shifter rod from it.

henryd3

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If you have the ball shifter **** on yours, I think they all use the flat shifter rod that is different from the later round ones with the little round ***** on them. I used to have several of both. They usually just pull out, but some apparently either from heat or repeated pressure kind of fuse themselves to the bottom where they push against the lever or whatever it is. I've never tried to force one off but it seems like it should be doable?. You have to take off the shift plate to see it but I don't think removing the whole shifter is needed. I'll try and find what I may have. I know I have a bunch of the later ones
Henry

82' Z28

oh well then, okay tonight I'll try to remove it again.

Apparently 87 even is to late, I don't know but if I had to guess 82-84 would be when they used the squared one as they changed the stampings above the wheels the same year.

But to any one of you that could find one I'd be extremely grateful for, I spend $1300 on the car originally and $1100 and some weeks at a mechanic's replacing the fuel tank and fuel sending unit as well as a couple other bits. And because of this mistake I still haven't gotten it on the highway :c

I don't know what y'all think a fair price would be but I'd pay $25-$50 for the rod itself opposed to an entire assembly replacement.

henryd3

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I think I may have found one in perfect shape. It's been awhile since I picked up a lot of these parts, so it's hard to remember them exactly. This one has the little ***** on it down the shaft for strength I guess, but is flat on the top so the button for the round shifter fits on top of it. That sound like yours? PM or email me your email address for pics and other info.
Henry

battmann

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sorry for the late reply. i found the extra shifter in my garage. the rod just pulled right out the top after you remove the shifter handle. this rod was from a early camaro (82-84).
let me know if this is what you're looking for. i'm not sure if these interchange or have different designs through the years.

82' Z28

PM'd!

Well this picture paired with a thought that hit me this morning I'm unsure if it'll match, mine is flat on top and I do have the original ball shift **** but it doesn't have the O in the middle like where mine broke AND my Z28 was originally a manual converted to automatic by a previous owner.

Due to that I'm actually missing components in the Reverse lights according to my mechanic and could explain me having a few years newer shifter assembly possibly.

~~I have yet to remove the plastic portion fully and that's not without try, my father said it seems we need to swap the entire shifter assembly but I do believe I read on other vehicles like Volkswagen you could remove the rod from the assembly with bolts and maybe that could still be done with mine.~~

Nope, well I wound up taking the shifter assembly out to get the plastic piece but no bolts needed like I heard about some newer cars.

The Project

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Just an FYI...most T Handle factory shifter's will work if you want to replace the factory button top one found in the Camaro....no need to replace the shifter rod either..or clip

I use one from an 89 Cavalier...simple pop on and go.

82' Z28

Alright I finally managed to get the rod out after breaking it even further then having to remove the shifter assembly and oil it up over night then push from the bottom as it seemed to be partly fused with the metal it went on/around.

http://imgur.com/HofdCND

http://imgur.com/ft1qCso

Henry said he should be able to help me awesomely! So we'll see how this goes, thank you all for the replies

82' Z28

I'm actually using a third party **** from Amazon that doesn't require the clip either, and we actually put a nut on top of the broken rod and it fit in the **** well enough to drive just I'd rather have the rod proper. (And now with it broken further can't go back to that >.<

I've contemplated sending it to get scanned and 3D printed even (good resell business for anyone who wants to take the idea, haha.)

John in RI

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The plastic "rod" on the shifter you have is NOT removable/serviceable.

If you wish to retain the original shifter, you will need a replacement shifter assembly. The Shifter and the Shifter **** you decide to use must be compatible with each other.

82' Z28

But but.. I got it removed and Henry has a black one that seemed as if it'd fit.

Did I break things?

http://imgur.com/lWhpW1n

henryd3

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Yes, I've sent pics of an original round shift **** with the circlip to hold it on, the button with tabs to clip on to the shift rod and a perfect condition rod that fits right into the button. That should be all she needs isn't it?
Henry

henryd3

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Looks like the longer button would work better. Does it matter which one?

henryd3

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John in RI

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82' Z28; The shifter you have right now is broken.

John in RI

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From 82-84 there's There's more than one style shifter, more then one shifter ball and more than 1 type of button. As I said earlier,....

The white colored, flat shifter "rod" is not intended to be a removable piece. Will parts from a different type/style shifter fit his original,...... I don't know.

henryd3

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Who were you responding to? Are you saying these parts won't work?
OOPS, you beat me back. I removed these parts from an early Camaro with the ball shifter working and it came right out. Does the part not look right? Why wouldn't these work?

John in RI

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Post 26 was to 82' Z28

Post 27 was to you Henry.... and to 82' Z28.

henryd3

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Could you explain that? What exactly is broken?
Thanks, Henry

henryd3

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Oh, OK, thanks. I'm not trying to rip her off, I'm only trying to help. These parts only might work?

henryd3

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I know some shifter ***** have two tabs on the inside, where this one has just one. That looks to be compatible with that shifter, or does that shift shaft have two grooves that require the other style ****? Sorry, meant to ask that earlier but slipped my mind while trying to figure this out. Doesn't the two tab one have them on the front and back rather than the side?
John, I know you know tons more about this than I do, and I'd like to help her out if I can, but don't want to screw her up.

John in RI

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I wouldn't say I know any more than anyone else about shifters,..... And all we can really do is add what we know, and be clear about what we don't. Your efforts appear to be genuine to me, and everyone else who reads this.

It's possible that the black, flat rod might work as a replacement once the white flat "rod" is removed from this type of shifter,.... I just don't KNOW that. What I do know is that the white, flat rod is not "normally" a removable part; It's probably why I've never see one as a stand alone replacement part. It's "fused" - for the lack of a better term - to the shifter assembly. When I used to find a busted white flat "rod" on the cars I used to part out the shifter was thrown away. ( All 84-86 Berlinettas used this type of shifter )

I'm also not certain how the length of the replacement black rod will effect the **** if used as a replacement for the white flat rod. It might cause the rod to sit too high or to low for the shifter **** being used. As your pic shows; there are 2 different buttons / ***** used on the early Camaros - this alone makes me think that the parts will not swap back/forth. ( I THINK the shifters changed type from 83-to-84. )

The fact that a non-stock shift-**** is being used doesn't make things any easier to figure out.

henryd3

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The **** she was using was not stock, but the one pictured that I have for her is the stock one that came with the other parts from the early Camaro

84 1LE

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The round tip style slides right out.I believe these were used on t-handle shifters from what ive seen over the years.The blk one pictured above, as John said.Does not simply slide out.If you look at the bottom of the above, it appears to be broken.

Ive always assumed you could remove the "flat" style, but ive never tried mine.From what ive noticed over the years, flat type seem to be used on the round *****.

henryd3

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The black one slid right out, is not broken but finished flat on the bottom and looks identical to others I have found on the internet

82' Z28

The blk one Henry has I don't believe to be broken just shorter than mine at the bottom portion that goes around the metal tab it pushes down.

But his also has the additional ball to compensate for that and I don't believe mine requires the entire length of the bottom portion it actually seemed to only use a little which makes me believes Henry's would work.

Btw Henry my father believes that the metal tube it goes in has the lip for the metal clip you have!

Does anyone know a better more online findable name for the the plastic rod I'm trying to replace? I've seen it called a detent rod but struggling to find a replacement made me think it's not the right/most common term for it.

Additionally, can anyone recognize the shifter assembly I have? Is it an 82-83 Z28 Auto shifter? It was put in by someone else many years ago when converting it from Manual. It may be easier for me to find and replace the entire assembly of all things unfortunately.

Black_TA

They come in all different sizes and colors, white,blue green. And its
called a shifter detent rod. It depends on what type of shifter you have. I have a
T-handle I don`t think that needs a clip. The Pontiac push button type needs a clip slits into the handle.

Here is what the bottom of my shifter were the metal clip goes. I will
see if I can find one tonight. Like I said I never fixed mine never could
figure it out.

John in RI

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Pretty sure the black/flat rod is 82-83, white/flat is 84-86, 87+ used a clip. I'm also thinking the "ball" type rod was used for the early 'T' shifters - but can't confirm that.

Time to replace your shifter '82' Z28'......



The 2 shifter rods are being held at the same position at the top and I'm pushing down on the white one so that the bottom of it can be seen thru the shifter mech. The black/flat rod is longer than the white/flat rod; while the pic shows this a little and proves the point,..... the difference is more significant than the pic shows. They are simply not compatible in any reasonable way.

If Henry doesn't have the shifter you need,... send me a PM.