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Old Jun 4, 2011 | 04:01 PM
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well i got the crossmember done and it is sweet! ill get a pic of it for ya guys
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so im up at my parents house, tearing my bros car back apart cause he thought he heard something knocking. i get it all tore apart and everything looks spanking new! so we are taking it to a machine shop tommorow and having them throw it back together so that is has a warrenty anywho the car, question pocket i know we have tlked bout tranny cooling lines but what size are the ones that go into the tranny itself, 3/8?
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1/4NPT, if you can find 1/4NPS, those fit better and generally have a gasket for a better seal
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NUMBER one priority is to send pocket the money for my harness. then get my starter, then my headers, plugs spark plug wires, and run my fuel system and cooling lines for the tranny
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Old Aug 3, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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man i havent been on here in forever! just been busy with all sorts of stuff. still waiting around for money so will update as soon as that happens
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We're all still keeping tabs man!
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well, the settlement from the accident is getting taken care of so i will be on the move once again with the car. but as for now i got my garage all cleaned out and got rid of a bunch of trash. but here is a question. my fuel tank what can i use to clean out my fuel tank? what would be good to use like a degreaser, or deisel or what should i use any suggestions would be fantastic! thankks guys.

oh yea i got my windshield out so waiting on another one so .
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Scroll down to 'tank cleaning':
http://www.aftermarketsuppliers.org/...ls/FPMC/Videos
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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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that didnt take long thanks man appreciate it.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:35 PM
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So i went to a local speed shop and was looking aroound for stainless braided lines and found it for 6$ a foot. so idk wether to order ofline or just go local. the next thing after paying pocket is to get the fuel system done.
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Thats ridiculous

Order it off summit for alot less. Summit sells it for nearly half that much
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really? ok i will then
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Thats ridiculous

Order it off summit for alot less. Summit sells it for nearly half that much
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ok here is the deal. I took the windsheild out right,... very very messy job. but i got it done so i had this gut feeling that the motor had glass in it from that and of course took driverside head off and there is glass i do not no how it got there but it was there. so i am gonna tear my motor back apart lol and re due her all over again.
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Just got done reading through your entire thread. Stick with it man and eventually you will be glad you did. Set a rule that anything can be sold except the car and when you get sick of it just step away for a couple months. Eventually the bug will always bite again. I'm local to you and was considering doing a 6.0L/T56 to my '89 Formula also. Have had my car put up in storage for 5 years now and haven't lost hope. Hows that for life getting in the way? I've known TTOP for awile now, great guy and knows his third gen's backwards and forwards.
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we should meet up sometime. but my wife has been pushing me to keep at it so
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How did you get glass in the engine? (this is a two part question):


1- was the intake not on the motor?

2- What did you use to remove the windshield that caused any glass to come apart anyways?


I've taken a few windshields out of 3rd gens using the wire that's made for it, comes on a spool. Takes two people and two c-clamps. Tighten the clamps down on each end of the wire, start at one corner, and go back and forth side to side with it until you cut through all the glue. There's no reason to make a mess when removing these things lol
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i do not remember if the intake was on or not. but after i did it i turned the motor over a couple times and heard something that i did not like then the thought that maybe glass got down there accured then i was like crap. and i did it the messy way and used a chissle lol and tried prying it out but then it just started falling apart so it came out in peices. yea i no stupid but you no what whatever man do it your way and ill do it mine lol

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How did you get glass in the engine? (this is a two part question):


1- was the intake not on the motor?

2- What did you use to remove the windshield that caused any glass to come apart anyways?


I've taken a few windshields out of 3rd gens using the wire that's made for it, comes on a spool. Takes two people and two c-clamps. Tighten the clamps down on each end of the wire, start at one corner, and go back and forth side to side with it until you cut through all the glue. There's no reason to make a mess when removing these things lol
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I have to say, a chisel is one of the more ammusing ways of removing a windshield.


I'm wondering how the glass got in the engine if the intake was on it though. Valve covers maybe weren't on? Oil fill cap not on, or something?
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nope all that was on,... here is my theory. glass landing in the intake port. then when i turned it over with a wrench it fell in so, yea but what do you guys think of these header working for swap headers i think they look familiar there is the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-F...item2567628849
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I have to say, a chisel is one of the more ammusing ways of removing a windshield.


I'm wondering how the glass got in the engine if the intake was on it though. Valve covers maybe weren't on? Oil fill cap not on, or something?
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is mig welding good for making headers??
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If you're good with welding thin metals

Learning to weld? Not the best project
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Old Sep 28, 2011 | 10:32 PM
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well i was thinking bout it but now i have changed mind once again. but i am gonna just keep her n/a so

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You can stay N/A and still have headers.
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^^^^ you can put a power adder on and still have manifolds
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Old Sep 29, 2011 | 04:51 PM
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I did, and it didnt cork the engine too bad either
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ALOT of people use the 6.0 truck manifolds for turbo setups, i guess they flow pretty well?
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Turbo exhaust systems are a completely different animal than NA and SC systems. Manifolds dont really have to flow very well to be effective for a turbo
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Turbo exhaust systems are a completely different animal than NA and SC systems. Manifolds dont really have to flow very well to be effective for a turbo
But you don't need dyno numbers to tell you the truck manifolds are good stuff, you can tell that just by looking at them. I'm keeping my set on the bench in the corner of the garage waiting for the end of days when I finally win the lottery...
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got a question for ya guys, can i use a truck pulley? it came off a 4.8 will it work or will i need a fbody corvette one?
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What accessory drive are you using? If truck stuff, use a truck pulley. If fbody stuff, can't use the truck pulley.
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ah ok
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lets talk vatts. i do not no where it is located at? so maybe pocket can throw in some advice. where is the vats module? and how do i disable it?
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Thats easy

Have VATS tuned out of the LS1 PCM and dont worry about the 3rd gen side
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Thats easy

Have VATS tuned out of the LS1 PCM and dont worry about the 3rd gen side
so pocket how do i get it tuned out? who do you recomend and btw what ecu (year) will i need
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It must be tuned out for a swap as listed in the swap sticky. No way to fool it with simple wiring tricks

You need to match the PCM to your harness. Yours takes a 99-03 service numbers 0411 or 4896
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I bought my computer off ebay from a dealer who tunes them to your specs first. I got him to remove all the necessary codes and VATS, changed the rev limit and speed limit options etc... I believe the eBay store was called "Spare ECM"
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decided i did not want a plan jane looking ls1 so i spiffed it up here are some pics let me no what you guys think please!

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I think it suits the build
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Definitely a very unique paint job and for some very strange reason i think i like it.
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yea man did ur car used to be carb?

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yea man did ur car used to be carb?
Yep i ran it that way for a few years.
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maybe you no my bro alex carpenter? he has a 02 wrx rebuilt with forged internals and a tune? he told me bout your car befor and said it had everything that oyur car has so i thought it was prolly you. but nice car man how is the turbo setup coming along?
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Yep i ran it that way for a few years.
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maybe you no my bro alex carpenter? he has a 02 wrx rebuilt with forged internals and a tune? he told me bout your car befor and said it had everything that oyur car has so i thought it was prolly you. but nice car man how is the turbo setup coming along?
Well im friends with him on facebook but cant remember ever meeting him, so i must just be a friend of a friend or something. I just finished up with a 4l80e swap so the turbo setup will get kicked off in the next few weeks.
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well maybe next time i come up to see my parents. i can come over and you can give me a ride in a ls1 powered thirdgen. never had the pleasure.....
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Well im friends with him on facebook but cant remember ever meeting him, so i must just be a friend of a friend or something. I just finished up with a 4l80e swap so the turbo setup will get kicked off in the next few weeks.
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That paint job will make you go crazy if you have to track down a coolant/oil leak later down the road haha
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I could never live with that intake paint scheme, but if you like it, then it's all good! It's nice to see some progress being made. I have a question though. I'm sure if I paid more attention in the first 11 pages I'd have the answer, but what motor is this now? Is this the 6.0 with the crank I sold you, or was that replaced with something else along the line?
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 09:37 PM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

That's too bad that you spilled paint all over your freshly painted intake lol.
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

read though this thread and its been awesome. im will be doing a 5.3/t56 swap in my 86 camaro sc. will be looking forward to the finishing of this build.
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Old Oct 5, 2011 | 01:04 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

well i appreciate that, and yea no joke i cant wait either. jim85iroc this is a ls1 with the crank that you had sold to me. and she worked out beautifully thanks so much for the humor in the intake paint scheme. and btw i dont like it anymore lol so back to the drawing board lol.
Originally Posted by Cody's86Camaro
read though this thread and its been awesome. im will be doing a 5.3/t56 swap in my 86 camaro sc. will be looking forward to the finishing of this build.
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Old Oct 7, 2011 | 02:00 AM
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Re: 90 firebird formula merges with LQ4 ( questions!!! )

hey guys, so I got the intake and valve covers painted again and here i like it

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