BADNBLK's 91 Z28 LS1 swap... Engine + much more :)
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Aren't you getting tired of winning the Super Chevy award at Bandimere? 
Congratulations! Yours is the most engineered 3rd gen I've seen in person!
Congratulations! Yours is the most engineered 3rd gen I've seen in person!
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Congrats brother!! A very amazing car before the swap and now even better!! I did not think that was even possible. So, what's next for this beast???? I cannot imagine what more could be done.....NITROUS.....TWIN TURBOS.....?????
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I appreciate it man. You've seen it for the past few years, and got to see some of the progress we have made with the car so that is a compliment I honor! Thank you
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I have some video that I need to upload to youtube, that should give a better idea than the first start idle clips I posted before.
I have narrowed rear end, and custom brakes... I'm not sure you'd want my specs unless you have baer hubs, rotors, and narrowed to my specs. But if you still do let me know I'll tell you.
I have narrowed rear end, and custom brakes... I'm not sure you'd want my specs unless you have baer hubs, rotors, and narrowed to my specs. But if you still do let me know I'll tell you.
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I have some video that I need to upload to youtube, that should give a better idea than the first start idle clips I posted before.
I have narrowed rear end, and custom brakes... I'm not sure you'd want my specs unless you have baer hubs, rotors, and narrowed to my specs. But if you still do let me know I'll tell you.
I have narrowed rear end, and custom brakes... I'm not sure you'd want my specs unless you have baer hubs, rotors, and narrowed to my specs. But if you still do let me know I'll tell you.
Eventually my car will get to the stage yours is, hopefully in two more years I'll be "done".
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BADNBLK has really set the bar pretty high on this one. Beautiful work.
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I had posted over at your COTM thread however I may find you here more readily.
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Curious. What are your fenders heights? I haven't gone back to read up (again for the 4th time...!). Do you have weight jacks...or anything to adjust ride height? The wheel/tire combination and stance suit the 3rd gen perfectly. (Is it tubbed?)
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Curious. What are your fenders heights? I haven't gone back to read up (again for the 4th time...!). Do you have weight jacks...or anything to adjust ride height? The wheel/tire combination and stance suit the 3rd gen perfectly. (Is it tubbed?)
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Thanks. I just read your post in the car of the month thread (congrats btw), and realized that my engine plans are identical to what you've done internally... So I might just copycat lol.
Eventually my car will get to the stage yours is, hopefully in two more years I'll be "done".
Eventually my car will get to the stage yours is, hopefully in two more years I'll be "done".
Thank you!I had posted over at your COTM thread however I may find you here more readily.
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Curious. What are your fenders heights? I haven't gone back to read up (again for the 4th time...!). Do you have weight jacks...or anything to adjust ride height? The wheel/tire combination and stance suit the 3rd gen perfectly. (Is it tubbed?)
To repost:
Curious. What are your fenders heights? I haven't gone back to read up (again for the 4th time...!). Do you have weight jacks...or anything to adjust ride height? The wheel/tire combination and stance suit the 3rd gen perfectly. (Is it tubbed?)
Ain't no thang as too clean haha!
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More pics for this past weekends Car show adventure.
My Squad!!! 4 of the 6 LS swapped
My Squad!!! 4 of the 6 LS swapped
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If I'd brought mine up next to you guys, yours would have looked even better.
But it was busy going rounds...
But it was busy going rounds...
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Who put those Optima stickers on your car, are they straight?
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God I love this thing! Who makes the carbon front grill again?
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Heh, I was going to have it be wall art, I don't even own a Camaro, lol
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So I got a phone call and pulled all my stickers off over the weekend....
Then I drove it out a little outside of town to a lil spot in a fancy development, and took some pictures
This guy kept getting in the way of my shots...
Yeah!!! That is the quick and not dirty on that situation
Then I drove it out a little outside of town to a lil spot in a fancy development, and took some pictures
This guy kept getting in the way of my shots...
Yeah!!! That is the quick and not dirty on that situation
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Gorgeous car and done right!! Yes, definitely prefer non stickers but understand its part of the Optima challenge and that series I'm sure.
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Beautiful car and as others have said it looks greats without the stickers. I really enjoy your builds your attention to detail is incredible.
Serious question though. Every time I look at your car I can’t wrap my head around how low it is. I have the Eibach pro kit springs and had to cut bumps to stop hitting them on really rough roads. In addition my car even with the lowered stance rolls over in the front due to the lowered roll center. You must not have much suspension travel before hitting the bumps, and it can’t ride very well does it? How did you solve the roll center problem associated with lower cars? Really large sway bars? Care to elaborate on how you got a stance like that and can still drive on the street?
Serious question though. Every time I look at your car I can’t wrap my head around how low it is. I have the Eibach pro kit springs and had to cut bumps to stop hitting them on really rough roads. In addition my car even with the lowered stance rolls over in the front due to the lowered roll center. You must not have much suspension travel before hitting the bumps, and it can’t ride very well does it? How did you solve the roll center problem associated with lower cars? Really large sway bars? Care to elaborate on how you got a stance like that and can still drive on the street?
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Congrats brother!! What magazine is this beast going in??? (Sorry if you stated earlier, I did not see it??) Looks AMAZING without the stickers everywhere!
Your secret photo spot appears to be North of home???? East of I-25 off Mulberry?? Looking GREAT as usual!! LOVE THIS F-ING CAR!!!!
Your secret photo spot appears to be North of home???? East of I-25 off Mulberry?? Looking GREAT as usual!! LOVE THIS F-ING CAR!!!!
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Beautiful car and as others have said it looks greats without the stickers. I really enjoy your builds your attention to detail is incredible.
Serious question though. Every time I look at your car I can’t wrap my head around how low it is. I have the Eibach pro kit springs and had to cut bumps to stop hitting them on really rough roads. In addition my car even with the lowered stance rolls over in the front due to the lowered roll center. You must not have much suspension travel before hitting the bumps, and it can’t ride very well does it? How did you solve the roll center problem associated with lower cars? Really large sway bars? Care to elaborate on how you got a stance like that and can still drive on the street?
Serious question though. Every time I look at your car I can’t wrap my head around how low it is. I have the Eibach pro kit springs and had to cut bumps to stop hitting them on really rough roads. In addition my car even with the lowered stance rolls over in the front due to the lowered roll center. You must not have much suspension travel before hitting the bumps, and it can’t ride very well does it? How did you solve the roll center problem associated with lower cars? Really large sway bars? Care to elaborate on how you got a stance like that and can still drive on the street?
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They always look best on the bump stops. Lookin good bro.
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.... In addition my car even with the lowered stance rolls over in the front due to the lowered roll center. You must not have much suspension travel before hitting the bumps, and it can’t ride very well does it? How did you solve the roll center problem associated with lower cars? Really large sway bars? Care to elaborate on how you got a stance like that and can still drive on the street?
In a nutshell, extended ball joints and a lowered panhard bar mount will reduce the need for larger sway bars by moving the roll centres. Add to that reduced unsprung weight via light weight wheels, hubs and brakes and you can reduce the need for big bars even more. This not only improves the ride quality, but with an appropriately spec'd shock to take advantage of the changes, keeps the tires in better contact with the pavement.
TEDSgrad and SlickTrackGod do a good job of explaining what happens.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...ll-joints.html
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Well I made a couple changes to my plans. If you have been following any of the other threads on this page, then you know what these are.
For those that don't. These are the Hooker Blackheart series of stainless LS swap headers for 82-92. They are 409SS, 1 7/8" primaries, and don't compromise ground clearance. I will be using almost their entire set up for this, except for their conversion pan, which will/may require me to notch the kmember for pan clearance.
I replaced a very nice set of Hawks Stainless Works headers for these and I got to say I'm impressed with the quality. The inside of each primary has been smoothed and sanded to provide no interuptions in flow. The SW headers had very nice welds, but nothing like this. Can't wait to get the rest of the system.
For those that don't. These are the Hooker Blackheart series of stainless LS swap headers for 82-92. They are 409SS, 1 7/8" primaries, and don't compromise ground clearance. I will be using almost their entire set up for this, except for their conversion pan, which will/may require me to notch the kmember for pan clearance.
I replaced a very nice set of Hawks Stainless Works headers for these and I got to say I'm impressed with the quality. The inside of each primary has been smoothed and sanded to provide no interuptions in flow. The SW headers had very nice welds, but nothing like this. Can't wait to get the rest of the system.
Can they be got with a Y-pipe?
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You're welcome (right place, right time)
I like a set of these myself. Easy to install over the axle true dual exhaust. Just a little fabrication needed to adapt the mid-pipe and back to my own Gen 1 SBC headers and 700R4 crossmember.
I like a set of these myself. Easy to install over the axle true dual exhaust. Just a little fabrication needed to adapt the mid-pipe and back to my own Gen 1 SBC headers and 700R4 crossmember.
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You would have to make your own Y pipe if that is the route you want to go. They are set up for their true dual system. Unless you already have a cat back you really want to use I would recommend just getting their dual system with those headers. It is a really good exhaust and it is actually cheaper buying that than buying a y and a catback.
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yup. I saw yours on the MAVtv episode as well; looked great and I have been watching all the episodes of the whole series. I always perk up when I see a 3rd gen competing.
Mine was on the NJ episode but just the same; maybe for a total of 9 seconds
Great event optima does. I heard that they moved the NJ event from May to August , so that may change things around for me a bit, but I still plan on attending
Mine was on the NJ episode but just the same; maybe for a total of 9 seconds
Great event optima does. I heard that they moved the NJ event from May to August , so that may change things around for me a bit, but I still plan on attending
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You would have to make your own Y pipe if that is the route you want to go. They are set up for their true dual system. Unless you already have a cat back you really want to use I would recommend just getting their dual system with those headers. It is a really good exhaust and it is actually cheaper buying that than buying a y and a catback.
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yup; same here. I saw yours on the MAVtv episode as well.
Mine was on the NJ episode but just the same; maybe for a total of 9 seconds
Great event optima does. I heard that they moved the NJ event from May to August , so that may change things around for me a bit, but I still plan on attending
Mine was on the NJ episode but just the same; maybe for a total of 9 seconds
Great event optima does. I heard that they moved the NJ event from May to August , so that may change things around for me a bit, but I still plan on attending
Can't wait to see how you do next season
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The show is set up to only really highlight the "cast" of the guys running every event and being contenders. I hope that someday I can find a money tree and afford to play with the big boys and travel as well. I don't have MAVtv so I wasn't able to catch any other episodes other than the PPIR event. I can't wait for next season, even though I got thousands to spend to try and come out and show up ya know.
Can't wait to see how you do next season
Can't wait to see how you do next season
yup, you are certainly right about that. the TV show definitely spends most of the time on the "heavy hitters" and showcasing their story as well as the car. I totally understand that. Those are typically some seriously seriously awesome cars indeed. Would be nice to show more "raw" footage of more of the overall competitors, but I understand they gotta squeeze all the weekends action into one hour.
I am right there with ya when it comes to wanting to be up there to play with the big boys. You car is light ears ahead of mine in fabrication and mods so I am hoping just to be up to your ride's level one day...! I am interested to see how those blackheart headers go in too. Keeping an eye out for updates as I usually do.
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yup, you are certainly right about that. the TV show definitely spends most of the time on the "heavy hitters" and showcasing their story as well as the car. I totally understand that. Those are typically some seriously seriously awesome cars indeed. Would be nice to show more "raw" footage of more of the overall competitors, but I understand they gotta squeeze all the weekends action into one hour.
I am right there with ya when it comes to wanting to be up there to play with the big boys. You car is light ears ahead of mine in fabrication and mods so I am hoping just to be up to your ride's level one day...! I am interested to see how those blackheart headers go in too. Keeping an eye out for updates as I usually do.
I am right there with ya when it comes to wanting to be up there to play with the big boys. You car is light ears ahead of mine in fabrication and mods so I am hoping just to be up to your ride's level one day...! I am interested to see how those blackheart headers go in too. Keeping an eye out for updates as I usually do.
The BLACKHEARTS are on the car. They were the header I initially installed, but I had them Ceramic heat coated, so may not have seemed like it in the pics. That was a crazy deadline time for me haha
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How was the fitment of the headers around the sub frame area. I installed the Racing Innovation headers and the fitment is extremely tight to the sub frame area Like 3/8" on the left and 1/8" on the right side. I am running the factory K-member and 4L60E so fitment is gonna be tight but mine is way tight. I guess you get what you pay for.
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Engine: LS1, 305 TPI, L98, NADA
Transmission: T56, 700r4's, and NADA
Axle/Gears: 3.89, 3.42, 3.23, NADA
Re: BADNBLK's 91 Z28 LS1 swap... Engine + much more :)
How was the fitment of the headers around the sub frame area. I installed the Racing Innovation headers and the fitment is extremely tight to the sub frame area Like 3/8" on the left and 1/8" on the right side. I am running the factory K-member and 4L60E so fitment is gonna be tight but mine is way tight. I guess you get what you pay for.
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From: WINDSOR, CO
Car: 91 Z28, 87 SC, 90 IROC, 92 RS
Engine: LS1, 305 TPI, L98, NADA
Transmission: T56, 700r4's, and NADA
Axle/Gears: 3.89, 3.42, 3.23, NADA
Re: BADNBLK's 91 Z28 LS1 swap... Engine + much more :)