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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

This car is my first. My now wife and I bought it back in 2011, many cars and trucks have come and gone, but it’s been my pride and joy ever since.
The old engine made it over 300k miles with only maintenance!

But all all things must come to an end...
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Out with the old.....

I cleaned and painted the engine bay while I was in there..

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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:38 AM
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Years ago I bought a wrecked donor z28....


this engine was rebuilt with new slugs bearings and all arp hardware.


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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:41 AM
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I picked up the t56 from a garage sale for $500... and in the nature of all car projects everything sat for about 3 years until funds were aquired...
but when they were,




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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:48 AM
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And now finally, after years, it was time to assemble... but quickly because fort hoods HOAs are horrible, the following pics happened in the course of 3 days...



The culmination...

...Of years...

...Of hard work...

...And my very understanding bank (wife)....
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:53 AM
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On day three started wiring...


Preparing the ls1 engine harness... (shoutout to pocket for all those awesome write ups..)

This is the engine bay stripped down to basic powers and grounds harness..

Laying and routing every.. single.. wire..


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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 06:16 AM
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After fighting engine mounts and all sorts of other shenanigans that night ... (sorry for the links.. it was a live FB vid)https://www.facebook.com/raymond.minisall/videos/1840896072627561/
and at 0500 the next morning... the first start
https://www.facebook.com/raymond.minisall/videos/1842948455755656/

the only issue I had with the harness, was that I mixed the two wires for the coolant temp sensor. It was reading like -90* lol... I’ll be honest it took me quite a while to figure that one out... but after I did...
https://www.facebook.com/raymond.minisall/videos/1846820768701758/
https://www.facebook.com/raymond.minisall/videos/1845890128794822/
and then basically the final running product... after three long days....


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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 06:30 AM
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After the full exhaust and a decent street tune by yours truly....



It runs pretty decent as of now and I learned so much doing this swap .. I have tons of random pics and a few extras on my YouTube page... I would like this to be inspiration for anybody that wants to do this but doesn't think they can... It took me quite a few years, but I did it, my wife helped me along the way and we grew a little closer because of this car....

Thanks for looking, more pics to come soon...

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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 07:36 AM
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great story, Hats off to you and the wife!!!!!!
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 09:35 AM
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I forgot to post this vid,




Pulling the engine out of the donor car... by hand...
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Lakerman62
great story, Hats off to you and the wife!!!!!!
thanks man, it was a fun project for sure, next we will do the interior and then paint when I get back to the states
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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Awesome. Did you do anything to the engine or just rebuilt with stock parts? What headers are those?
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 10:37 AM
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Awesome!
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 10:54 AM
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Nice job!
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:10 PM
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Awesome. Did you do anything to the engine or just rebuilt with stock parts? What headers are those?
its a stock bore aluminum LS1, forged coated pistons (STD bore) clevite bearings, ARP mains, caps, headbolts. Heads are hand ported 243s with a comp cams XR275HR-12 bumpstick. I wanted it to spin really, really fast Headers are the stainless 1 7/8 inch speed engineering headers. They have 3 in collectors and the fit and finish of these is out of the park for the $300 shipped I got them for. They blue quite a bit, but they are headers so I don’t mind. It’s supposed to be fast, not look pretty lol
She’s a lil rowdy...

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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 05:24 PM
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Forgot to mention I picked up a set of these bad boys a few months back off facebook for $250, I’m going to have them restored and mount some 225/55r15s on them.
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 08:50 PM
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Nice job!
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Old Nov 2, 2018 | 10:53 PM
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I bet she is rowdy! Great job, bet it's a blast to drive.
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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 10:53 AM
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Awesome,that was a fast swap.

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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 11:01 AM
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I may have missed it,what kind of exhaust do you have?
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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 11:25 AM
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Awesome,that was a fast swap.
It was extremely stressful, but we got it done..
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Old Nov 3, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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I may have missed it,what kind of exhaust do you have?

its a set of speed engineering 1 7/8 primary headers with 3 inch collectors, from there it’s a custom 3inch y pipe (a lot like the hawks one) and then 3 inch straight to the quad corvette tips you see in the back. No cats, no resonators.
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wow. Nice work!
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Old Nov 4, 2018 | 04:58 PM
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wow. Nice work!
thanks man. The wait was so worth it.

heres our first road trip in the resurrected fire chicken.
(is that redundant..?)

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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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its a stock bore aluminum LS1, forged coated pistons (STD bore) clevite bearings, ARP mains, caps, headbolts. Heads are hand ported 243s with a comp cams XR275HR-12 bumpstick. I wanted it to spin really, really fast Headers are the stainless 1 7/8 inch speed engineering headers. They have 3 in collectors and the fit and finish of these is out of the park for the $300 shipped I got them for. They blue quite a bit, but they are headers so I don’t mind. It’s supposed to be fast, not look pretty lol
She’s a lil rowdy...
Nice, I have the same headers waiting to go in my car.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 12:59 PM
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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Nice, I have the same headers waiting to go in my car.
It’s honestly kindof scary how well they fit and finish for the price they are. Did you get the 1 7/8 primaries?
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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It’s honestly kindof scary how well they fit and finish for the price they are. Did you get the 1 7/8 primaries?
Yep. Also used an ebay code to get 20% off, so they were like $230. Glad to hear they fit so well.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 01:10 PM
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Yep. Also used an ebay code to get 20% off, so they were like $230. Glad to hear they fit so well.
Ill be honest, I’m so happy with them, I’m not even mad that I couldn’t find the 20% off coupon lol

I actually installed these headers with the engine and trans bolted in the car as well... then installed the starter after that!
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Ill be honest, I’m so happy with them, I’m not even mad that I couldn’t find the 20% off coupon lol

I actually installed these headers with the engine and trans bolted in the car as well... then installed the starter after that!
Nice, that will be helpful information for me when I go putting things together.

ebay has been having quite a few 15% off days lately, haven't seen the 20% since that time but that's still a nice discount and I've used it on several other parts.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 01:17 PM
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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Nice, that will be helpful information for me when I go putting things together.

ebay has been having quite a few 15% off days lately, haven't seen the 20% since that time but that's still a nice discount and I've used it on several other parts.
interesting... hopefully this promo is still going when I get back to the states... I need a posi diff and a few other misc parts. As of now I’m still running the v6 open rear and all 4 coil springs are sacked out... it’s all nickel and diming from here. I may do an LSA supercharger swap later on.
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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interesting... hopefully this promo is still going when I get back to the states... I need a posi diff and a few other misc parts. As of now I’m still running the v6 open rear and all 4 coil springs are sacked out... it’s all nickel and diming from here. I may do an LSA supercharger swap later on.
It's a pretty restricted time period, like less than a day. You have to use the discount code within that window. I'll shoot you a pm if I see it come up again. Usually happens once every other month or so.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 01:28 PM
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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It's a pretty restricted time period, like less than a day. You have to use the discount code within that window. I'll shoot you a pm if I see it come up again. Usually happens once every other month or so.
unfortunately, I’ve still got about 4 months left in my rotation, so itll be about 5.5 months before I can get moving on her again, until then she sits in storage 😞
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

Thanks for sharing, its definitely inspiring.

Doing a very similar swap outside Detroit. 91 V6 RS . Pulled T56/LS1 from 04 GTO. Ported 243 heads/cam from Thompson Motorsports, with 590" lift cam on single springs. Found a 9 bolt posi with 3.70 rear swapped in and cones appear intact !

Just pulled the 3.1L this weekend...



Thanks for serving, and stay safe.
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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 10:00 PM
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

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Thanks for sharing, its definitely inspiring.

Doing a very similar swap outside Detroit. 91 V6 RS . Pulled T56/LS1 from 04 GTO. Ported 243 heads/cam from Thompson Motorsports, with 590" lift cam on single springs. Found a 9 bolt posi with 3.70 rear swapped in and cones appear intact !

Just pulled the 3.1L this weekend...



Thanks for serving, and stay safe.

Thanks for your support,

The GTO Powertrain is such a good find, I wanted one for the front drive but they are so expensive... I’m still trying to decide what I Want to do with the rear end, I could swap in a 4th gen rear but I’ll loose tire width. I think I’ll just go with a drop in posi. My stock 3:23s are such great highway gears... It does 80 mph at about 1600 rpm lol..

heres my cam cam card I forgot to post:

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Old Nov 7, 2018 | 10:36 PM
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Quite the upgrade, nice work.
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Old Nov 13, 2018 | 06:13 AM
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Re: My (kinda shade tree) 1992 firebird LS swap

great write up . im doing a 5.3 in my car next spring . i hope it goes as smoth as yours
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Old Nov 15, 2018 | 03:03 PM
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great write up . im doing a 5.3 in my car next spring . i hope it goes as smoth as yours
many beers were slain in this battle....
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