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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Noob here.

Whats up guys? Well I hope I don't get flamed much on here for being a ford guy. I recently purchased a 86 z28 with 305 TPI and a auto. The interior on this car is a little trashed. I'm going to convert the interior to all black. I have no idea on what I want to do to the exterior. I was looking at a lot of the members rides and a majority of them are gorgeous. The other little play toy is a 308 H/C/I 90 mustang gt. It has a lot of money in it and its soon to have a 76mm turbo on it.

Here are the pics of the camaro. The first picture with the crazy wheels was from when i bought it and the next day i threw the ZR1's on.



Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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nice camaro man, looks to be pretty soild. Whats this mustang you have look like? later man -Matt
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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The exterior looks pretty clean... but what the hell is that r i c e r doin next to a chevy.. to answer your question yes youll get flamed for being a ford guy, because lets face it chevy > fords

edit: why is r i c e r sensored.. wtf

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:05 PM
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looks nice, those have to be the ugliest rims ever (in the first pic), too bad your gonna get flamed, because imo any real car enthusiast should respect any make. you should get some pics with the mustang and the 4th gen.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Nice Camaro and nice STi in the second pic ;-)
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Thanks for all the compliments guys. Ill try and post up some pics of the mustang tomorrow. As for the sti being rice, its not rice what so ever. That sti is prolly faster than most H/C Ls1's.

Where is a good place to find after market parts for a 305 tpi car? Either motor or exterior parts. Also i would like some recommendations on what to purchase for the vehicle. I would like to make it kinda a quick street car with good looks. Nothing crazy fast, thats what i got the mustang for.
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 90gtpony
Thanks for all the compliments guys. Ill try and post up some pics of the mustang tomorrow. As for the sti being rice, its not rice what so ever. That sti is prolly faster than most H/C Ls1's.
Ahh trust me I know Subaru's. Became a Subaru enthusiast when I got my Legacy GT Limited and have been loving them ever since. Recently got my IROC though and my Legacy is now full-time daily driver :-)
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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I looked at the first picture without reading anything and said," Wow, pretty good looking car. It could REALLY use some ZR-1s though." That being said, ood choice with the ZR-1s. Great looking car. Keep it up.
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faster than an ls1 ...maybe on a cold day in hell


As for finding parts... i get most of my stuff from jegs, summit, autozone, pepboys, napa, junkyards..

You should probably throw a cam in there, a stall converter, some heads, headers/exhaust and it should be plenty fast after that.

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Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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Whats the STI's mods and what its ET for 1/8 or 1/4 But im sure its never been down a track. Outruning a Head/camed LS1 is no easy task. The ZR1 ( SS ) wheels do look 100,000 times better
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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the ZR1s definetly look better than those jizzball wheels on it before
Old Dec 2, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TTA#299
Whats the STI's mods and what its ET for 1/8 or 1/4 But im sure its never been down a track. Outruning a Head/camed LS1 is no easy task. The ZR1 ( SS ) wheels do look 100,000 times better
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tekkitan
Truth hurts dont it
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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Old Dec 3, 2007 | 08:36 AM
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Haha. Last month at rockingham it ran a 11.2 in the 1/4. Mods are header,3" downpipe, catless 3.5" exhaust, upgraded topmount, meth, cold air, under drive crank pulley, short throw, mild cams, and a custom tune by AMS so it can run 28psi on 100 octane.

Im going to go ahead and get rid of the auto and put a 5-speed in. I found a rs in the junkyard with a 5 speed im goin to grab out. Is there any electrical harnesses for the conversion that i need?
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Not too sure about the conversion, my car is a 5spd already. I know you have to cut the hole though.

If you are gonna go through all the work to convert it to a t5, have you considered looking for a t-56 from the junkyard? There might be a few 4th gen there. It is a much better tranny.

Finally, if you have the dough, you should consider some 3.42 gears or something. You car probably has the 2.73 rear end too. I would get a good posi carrier, and a taller gearset to wake the car up. And if you are already doing the tranny swap, it will make it easier to swap out the speedometer gears for a set that will calibrate.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:30 AM
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Re: Noob here.

Originally Posted by Rayzor32
The exterior looks pretty clean... but what the hell is that r i c e r doin next to a chevy..

faster than an ls1 ...maybe on a cold day in hell
Originally Posted by 90gtpony
Haha. Last month at rockingham it ran a 11.2 in the 1/4. Mods are header,3" downpipe, catless 3.5" exhaust, upgraded topmount, meth, cold air, under drive crank pulley, short throw, mild cams, and a custom tune by AMS so it can run 28psi on 100 octane.
11.2 1/4 mile times....So much for Rayzor32s "r i c e r" statement...STis are QUICK! A r i c e r is all show, no go. That STi is stock in appearance.

As for the Camaro....Glad ya swapped the rims out. I'm not a ZR1 fan, nice rims, just not my style, but they certainly look better than what were on it.

As for mods, the typical bolt-ons to start...
cat-back, high-flow car, K&N, lower thermostat, cold air induction, etc.

We won't hold the pony against you....Your on the road to recovery, by buying the Camaro!
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:46 AM
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yeah just keep buying japanese and puttin the american working man out on the street
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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Re: Noob here.

Originally Posted by Rayzor32
yeah just keep buying japanese and puttin the american working man out on the street
What?

Nice Camaro. Like others have said, I would start with the exhaust system. Once thats taken care of, open up in the intake side. Getting more air in and out is KEY with these cars, especially with TPI motors. With my old 305 TPI motor I used Hedman headers, Hedman Ypipe, 3" cat and 3" system all the way to the back. Intake wise, I ported the hell out of the plenum and base and kept the stock runners (ordered AS&M runners but sold the car before using them). Made my own CAI with pcv tubing. I had an auto so by swapping to that T5 it will make the car feel even faster and alot more fun to drive. Good luck with it.

Talking about the H/C LS1. I've seen them up and down with 1/4 times. Most of them that I know are still having traction problems lol. Although that is a fast STi, throw the same amount of money into an LSx car and watch it fly by. Nothing against Jap cars, just going from what I know. If I had to have an STi, I'd want a '03-'04 though, something about the way it looks.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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Re: Noob here.

Originally Posted by 90gtpony
I found a rs in the junkyard with a 5 speed im goin to grab out. Is there any electrical harnesses for the conversion that i need?
You will want the clutch safety switch/harness (may already present) and the reverse light harness as you will be getting rid of the auto. shifter which has the park/neutral safety switch on it. The reverse light switch is also part of thet. The reverse light switch for a t-5 is mounted on/in the transmission.

A search for 't-5 swap' may net you some helpful information as well. Although, the search isn't quite what it used to be currently.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Re: Noob here.

Originally Posted by 90gtpony
Haha. Last month at rockingham it ran a 11.2 in the 1/4. Mods are header,3" downpipe, catless 3.5" exhaust, upgraded topmount, meth, cold air, under drive crank pulley, short throw, mild cams, and a custom tune by AMS so it can run 28psi on 100 octane.

Im going to go ahead and get rid of the auto and put a 5-speed in. I found a rs in the junkyard with a 5 speed im goin to grab out. Is there any electrical harnesses for the conversion that i need?
11.20's with those mods is pretty quick. I dont go to rockingham that much but next time I go ill look for it.
Old Dec 3, 2007 | 11:50 PM
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yeah just keep buying japanese and puttin the american working man out on the street
First of all Subaru is made by Toyota Co which is made/assembled in America by Americans. Second are you trying to start a flame to get his thread locked? please don't answer that.

That camaro is nice man! Its crying out for a lsx swap and a cage. Got any close up with the zr rims?
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Originally Posted by 92rs85berlintta
First of all Subaru is made by Toyota Co which is made/assembled in America by Americans.
that doesnt mean anything, toyota is in indiana. toyota forces GM and FORD to reduce labor costs to compete with them, the union loses power, WE lose jobs, benefits, and wages because of the people like you that buy toyota. thanks.

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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that's a sweet car man. hella nice.
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Rayzor32
that doesnt mean anything, toyota is in indiana. toyota forces GM and FORD to reduce labor costs to compete with them, the union loses power, WE lose jobs, benefits, and wages because of the people like you that buy toyota. thanks.
LOL if GM and FORD made a better product then toyota then theyd still be in good shape right?

Thats how the world works. Stop whining.


The camaros nice; Much better with the Zr1s. Still looks like it could use a nice drop. What are your plans for it?

I bet most of us wouldnt mind seeing the mustang either. To make the mods happy you should prolly put the Camaro in the picture as well


After you get that turbo in the mustang squared away maybe itll be time for some boost in the camaro as well...
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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ahh you dont know what your talking about end a discussion
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Nice car! Good call with the ZR1 wheels. Slap a new foglight grille on her!
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rocluvr0013
LOL if GM and FORD made a better product then toyota then theyd still be in good shape righ
I testdrove a 4 Runner and ended up buying a Trailblazer and im glad I bought GM. My work truck has 230k miles only parts replaced are brakes, plugs/wires @ 200k and a radiator. If you think toyota makes better products why dont you sell your camaro and buy a toyota ?
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Re: Noob here.

Originally Posted by TTA#299
I testdrove a 4 Runner and ended up buying a Trailblazer and im glad I bought GM. My work truck has 230k miles only parts replaced are brakes, plugs/wires @ 200k and a radiator. If you think toyota makes better products why dont you sell your camaro and buy a toyota ?
Or just be smart about it and buy both like he did.

Nice car! Good call with the ZR1 wheels. Slap a new foglight grille on her!
I second that. I didn't even notice until you said that.
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Re: Noob here.

where'd the pics go??? As far as your junkyard tranny expidition, you want to get the trans, the bellhousing, the pedal setup, shifter cover, the rubber boot that bolts to the trans tunnel and covers the shifter hole, the master and slave cylinder and resivor - basically the whole hydrolic setup, it'll come out in 1 piece. You may wanna grab the flywheel too. Driveshaft is the same if you have a 700r4.. The clutch saftey switch will be attached to the pedal assembly, the wires for it currently are on your PRNDL1 switch, one is purple other is green with a white tracer if i remember correctly, you will also need to wire the reverse switch, I forget the wire colors but they are also on the prndl1 switch harness.. to remove the pedals and hydrolics simply remove the steering column and loosen the brake booster, the pedals and other parts come out pretty easy. to install everything you need to cut the shifter hole in the floor so take measurements off the donor car, you also need to cut a hole for the clutch master cylinder, there is already a pattern there for it if you have the origional carpet, just pull the carpet back a few inches and you'll see it on the jute part or the carpet. Put more pics up I wanna see the car! Welcome aboard.

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QUOTES:

People are buying Toyota and other Jap makes for a reason. It’s been said the average Japanese worker earns around $25.00/hr LESS than an American auto worker- and that at least $2 to 3 thousand dollars of the price of every American car goes directly towards union-mandated pay rates and benefits. [/quote]

[qoute]
The issue is not that Toyota is against raising CAFE standards. The issue is that Toyota understands that the Detroit Three are not capable of meeting the new standards without investing hundreds of millions of dollars, money that the Detroit Three do not have and cannot raise in their current financial conditions.
Implementing the higher CAFE standards could push one or more of the Detroit Three over the edge into bankruptcy, costing more American jobs, unless the federal government steps in and picks up the tab with the largest corporate bailout in history. Toyota will be blamed for killing the US auto industry, costing the jobs of tens of thousands of American auto workers and those at many Tier 1 and 2 suppliers, raising unemployment levels, the federal deficit, and the taxes to pay for it all, and anything else that the Detroit Three can throw at them.

[/qoute]



[qoute]

it is estimated for every percentage point of U.S. market share Toyota gains, 30,000 American jobs are lost from domestic manufacturers. Thirty-thousand is also the current amount of people Toyota employs in America.

Additionally, and as a final blow to the notion that it is economically acceptable to buy a Japanese car, GM’s contributions to the North American GNP are four times that of Toyota.

[/qoute]

GM has more American salaried workers than Toyota has total American workers. With 194,000 employees in America, even after hard times, General Motors still employs six times as many Americans as Toyota, seven times as many as Honda, and 12 times as many as Nissan. As Business Week pointed out in 2002 (the last data I have seen on the subject), each auto-assembly job created by an American company also creates 6.9 other American jobs, where each auto-assembly job created by a foreign company creates only 5.5 other American jobs. This is true simply because American automobile companies get more of their parts from America.


It may seem that your car-buying decision would have no effect on your personal prosperity or that of your country, but it does. It really does matter if you buy an American-made Chevrolet instead of an American-made Toyota.
When you buy an American-made Chevy, you not only support more American workers, but also American investors, owners and stockholders. When you buy an American-made Toyota, you may help your Uncle Bob if he’s on Toyota’s payroll, but you’re hurting Uncle Sam since American companies pay about three times as many taxes to the U.S. Treasury compared to foreign-owned companies. That’s something to think about the next time you hear we have to cut benefits or raise the retirement age simply because the U.S. Treasury doesn’t have enough funds to meet its obligations to Social Security or other benefit programs.


at least know what the hell youre talking about before you make an ignorant response

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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:31 PM
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Rayzor what does any of that have to do with the camaro this guy bought?
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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nothing but i cant just sit here idley by and listen to people spread ignorance
Old Dec 4, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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The way I read it he wasn't arguing about american jobs, he just stated the opinion that he thinks toyotas are better cars.. an opinion I don't personally agree with but... back to the topic before this guys thread gets locked..
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Re: Noob here.

Who cares who does what. This isn't a discuss government, employment, manufacturing, union labor, econimics or, whatever else view of the world you want to stir into the ----pot messageboard.

It is a thirdgen f-body tech messageboard.

There is no requirement to be a strict GM only owner to post on the boards. If you have problem with a person, or thier ownership of other non-f-body cars, feel free to use the Private Message feature of the board.

I asked nicely once. Apparently, it is just too difficult to stay on topic for some.

My apologies to the 90gtpony for others having to ruin this post about your recently aquired camaro. It is a nice car.
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