My 87 drifter/road course Z
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Car: '87 Camaro Z28
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My 87 drifter/road course Z
Hello everybody,
just wanted to give you the actual status of my little curb eater :-)
Standing still:

AutoMeter swap from hell:

Some drivers comfort:

True Dual stainless on stock routing:

The Pusher:

Stopping power:

Fun:


Short clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHE9jhqXK4
More pictures, story, built, brakes here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2606466
Greetings,
Simon
just wanted to give you the actual status of my little curb eater :-)
Standing still:
AutoMeter swap from hell:
Some drivers comfort:
True Dual stainless on stock routing:
The Pusher:
Stopping power:
Fun:
Short clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFHE9jhqXK4
More pictures, story, built, brakes here: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2606466
Greetings,
Simon
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Badass!!!
A coworker is building up an 88 BMW 3.25 as a drift car, sounds like fun, I wish I had the guts to do that to my camaro, probably smack a wall or something!
A coworker is building up an 88 BMW 3.25 as a drift car, sounds like fun, I wish I had the guts to do that to my camaro, probably smack a wall or something! On Probation
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
always liked ur car.!
that exhaust is sick . i did something similar to that . except that they are bullets
can you post some more pics of your brake set up ?
that exhaust is sick . i did something similar to that . except that they are bullets
can you post some more pics of your brake set up ?
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your tire budget has to be insane. have you reviewed federal tires for drifting? they are dirt cheap and suppose to last longer than most street tires.
Anyway very nice set up, I would bet it would cost alot less to build your car in the US
Anyway very nice set up, I would bet it would cost alot less to build your car in the US
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Car: '87 Camaro Z28
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
@TPI Terr: Thanks, here are the brakes in more detail: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2606466/6
When I see your signature I'm looking back to my blue 90 RS...always loved the colour...
@SLP-GTA: I use used tires, otherwise I couldn't afford that. When I pass a tire dealer I stop by and ask if they have some rubber left :-) But you are right, Iften hear that about the Federals.
I bought all the parts in the US. If I would buy it from one of the five (!) shops over here it easily could triple the price. Shipping prices are ok and I get my parts within a week. I also often order together with my master mechanic so we can share the shipping. Summit ftw!
Greetings,
Simon
When I see your signature I'm looking back to my blue 90 RS...always loved the colour...
@SLP-GTA: I use used tires, otherwise I couldn't afford that. When I pass a tire dealer I stop by and ask if they have some rubber left :-) But you are right, Iften hear that about the Federals.
I bought all the parts in the US. If I would buy it from one of the five (!) shops over here it easily could triple the price. Shipping prices are ok and I get my parts within a week. I also often order together with my master mechanic so we can share the shipping. Summit ftw!

Greetings,
Simon
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
You've got a pretty damn nice car there. I'm really liking those wheels too. I couldn't find much info about them, wish they came in wider sizes.
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Two of my 9" wide ROH Snypers got widened to 11"s.
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
HP - don't know. In my wrecked Camaro it was good for a 13.4@108mph...
The wheels are from a manufacturer called "Fittipaldi". Seems to be some kind of sub-brand of OZ-Racing. Found them a while ago on ebay. These are BMW-spec...never saw them on another car here in Germany...so they must be some kind of rare...
Greetings,
Simon
The wheels are from a manufacturer called "Fittipaldi". Seems to be some kind of sub-brand of OZ-Racing. Found them a while ago on ebay. These are BMW-spec...never saw them on another car here in Germany...so they must be some kind of rare...
Greetings,
Simon
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Very nice, did you have to make any modifications to the steering to get a better angle ?
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
I commented on your car on cardomain. That thing is ****ing killer. Damn I love that car. Props on the stance, the wheels, the dash, the manual, making it a road course car... amazing. You should take it around the nordschlieffe! I've always wanted to do that with mine but unfortunately there's an ocean in the way.
How do you run something like that over there in the land of hyper-sensitive environmentalists? I mean in most of the US yuo cant even put a carburetor on one these, much less in Germany. Is it street legal?
I bet that thing turns a lot of heads over there, and I bet that exhaust note is fairly rare up that ways too.
How do you run something like that over there in the land of hyper-sensitive environmentalists? I mean in most of the US yuo cant even put a carburetor on one these, much less in Germany. Is it street legal?
I bet that thing turns a lot of heads over there, and I bet that exhaust note is fairly rare up that ways too.
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
word +1
i vote for more pictures and videos
car is awesome its the little details that count
i vote for more pictures and videos
car is awesome its the little details that count
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
@Omni: No, no steering mods yet. But I think stock geometry is by far the worst you can find on a production car. I still have massive problems with understeer when it is wet. Will be changed one day to a more modern conversion..maybe we will change the whole front suspension design...
@Infernal: You're right on every point. It's really a exotic car over here...even more than the Pontiacs.
It's not street legal. With some connections and a bunch of money it maybe could be possible but with a carb setup you will always have a problem pass the smog test. Even then the cops could take the car out of traffic and cause you much trouble. It's a track only car now, only drive it on the street with a special 5-day registration which is ment for moving a car before you registrate it regularly. Next step will be a trailer.
Sometimes people freak out if they stand next to such a "noisy" car..you get used to it :-)
And yes, they are environmental crazy here but the automotive industry still plays a big role so Daimler, BMW and Audi still produce cars with over 500HP out of stock and nobody cares.
@Blaize: The steering wheel is somekind of noname wheel with a "pilot" logo. I think it is a copy of a Grant wheel because even the Grant adapters are fitting.
The Autometer swap was a 4-day trip to hell:



Greetings and thanks to all,
Simon
@Infernal: You're right on every point. It's really a exotic car over here...even more than the Pontiacs.
It's not street legal. With some connections and a bunch of money it maybe could be possible but with a carb setup you will always have a problem pass the smog test. Even then the cops could take the car out of traffic and cause you much trouble. It's a track only car now, only drive it on the street with a special 5-day registration which is ment for moving a car before you registrate it regularly. Next step will be a trailer.
Sometimes people freak out if they stand next to such a "noisy" car..you get used to it :-)
And yes, they are environmental crazy here but the automotive industry still plays a big role so Daimler, BMW and Audi still produce cars with over 500HP out of stock and nobody cares.
@Blaize: The steering wheel is somekind of noname wheel with a "pilot" logo. I think it is a copy of a Grant wheel because even the Grant adapters are fitting.
The Autometer swap was a 4-day trip to hell:
Greetings and thanks to all,
Simon
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Some random pics:




Sorry, no finished pic:




Even more pics and all details to the build you will find on the cardomain site...



Sorry, no finished pic:

Even more pics and all details to the build you will find on the cardomain site...
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
I like it... thats what i am going for but i am going to boost a 383 and see how it goes.
ive owned a sr20det powered 240sx drift car and a turbo 4agze Ae86 corolla and there fun but i think it is cool to see old school power out on the track
ive owned a sr20det powered 240sx drift car and a turbo 4agze Ae86 corolla and there fun but i think it is cool to see old school power out on the track
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Love the rims, only thing I would change on that car is the ground effects color, kind of clashes, otherwise a very nice ride...
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
More action :-)
Dynorun...expected a bit more...but who cares with that sound :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYcVOoduDc
Cars are here for driving:
Sometimes Grip
Short sequence in there, not very specatcular ...
http://vimeo.com/11368681
Now you know 8)
Greetings,
Simon
Dynorun...expected a bit more...but who cares with that sound :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PYcVOoduDc
Cars are here for driving:
Sometimes Grip
Short sequence in there, not very specatcular ...
http://vimeo.com/11368681
Now you know 8)
Greetings,
Simon
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
hahaha...man, that is friggin sweet! The car looks just looks so menacing! It has this no-nonsense look that just says, get the *** out of my way!
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Very nice car. I love the stance of the car and the brake setup. So many people get caught up in making the car go fast and forget that eventually you have to stop.
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That white w/ gold sure is one sexy color scheme
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
great photos
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Re: My 87 drifter/road course Z
Awsome machine, I'm actually building my Z for carvin up road courses. See ya on the twisties







