INTIMIDATOR Z

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so im good friends with 6 Liter Eater (if you dont know who he is search). anyways tryin to make my concept of my car look how i want and he just happens to have access to machines to help me complete my concepts.

anyways were workin on building a splitter for my car and possibly others.

heres my car (how it used to look and will look again but with some changes)




heres the concept but with my logos and other stuff.





this is with a splitter that he had layin around for a 5th gen camaro (just for reference)



and heres the same 2010 splitter on my 91z.

SDTransAM

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I would love if someone made splitters for these cars. That 2010 splitter doesn't look good. But it could

INTIMIDATOR Z

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yeah the one ill make will fit the bumper shape alot better and maybe only stick out like 1-2 inches. we just have to figure out mounting brackets for people that dont want to put holes in the bumper.

SDTransAM

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Awesome. I am subscribing to this thread. Can't wait to see what you come up with. Are you planning on selling them?

INTIMIDATOR Z

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if theres interest in them then he will probably sell them. but this stuff isnt cheap (for example the 4th gen ones he sells go for $275). so im guessing these will be around the same if we can figure out a mounting solution.

the solitaire

Forza 3 is a great game.

I donīt think my car will need a splitter from a practical point of view, but optically itīs a nice addition that makes the car look racy.

KiLLJ0Y

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A rear diffuser would be cool

INTIMIDATOR Z

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thats one of those other things i want to add. the game doesnt have that option and i dont know how to photoshop.

im thinking something close to this.

KMK454

Damn, Forza has a real thirdgen? I have GT5 on the PS3 and all it has is the IROC-Z Concept Car.

Eagle223usa

I always dreamed of a rear diffuser after last seasons Formula One. It made all the difference for a mediocre team. (Braun) But I don't think I drive my car fast enough to actually need one!

freaky

i'd buy a fronyt one for sure , that video game car is exactly the look i have in mind for mine ...

toxik IROC

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Looks cool

quickkris2006

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i just added a front splitter to my 06 gto and that sits higher then my thirdgen for sure.. and that still scraps.. i would love to add one to the third gen as long as it doesnt break at first impact with the pavement..

iansane

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What material are the splitters made of?

INTIMIDATOR Z

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pretty think ABS plastic or i think he can do them in carbon fiber

Kidfromthe951

Very interested in this, funny timing as well as I was getting ready to make a front splitter for my car, I got the idea from Forza as well. Here's one we are in the process of making for my buddy's STI and my car was going to be next. We are gonna use thin plexi glass about 100 bucks for the sheet.

InfernalVortex

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My only concern is that the ground fx on these cars slope downwards towards the wheels. If you make the splitter follow the ground fx, it will be pointed upwards at the front of the car.

It may be that the IROC ground fx are less slanted than the 91-92 GFX, though.

iansane

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I wonder how much different the curvature would be for a bird nose.

kmcn47

thought you sold the 91 z?

INTIMIDATOR Z

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its sold but still in my driveway. been driving it ever since i sold it. lol damn im a good salesman.

kmcn47

cool, aso what happened to your build thread for the red camaro? i can no longer find it, im sure you've made progress since i last looked at it

InfernalVortex

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This is from that infamous japanese thirdgen thread that I cant find. At some point I found a picture of the bottom of it and the whole undercarriage was sealed up, racecar style, completely flat on the bottom with a diffuser. the front portion angled up a bit and had brake ducts in it. Cant find the underneat picture, but this is the car, and it has a splitter.



Edit:

Found it on google by entering "Grace racing camaro"! Not quite what I remembered, but it may be useful to you to see it.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...maro-pics.html





They did a bunch of weird, goofy stuff to that car that makes me question their design philosophy (coil overs, shorty headers, poly and solid bushings in the rear etc), but the work is top notch.

I cant see that working too well visually unless you fabbed up something like what the C5R's or old Viper GT1's had...





Basically, I think you'd need to go back into the bumper a ways, and then come down and jut forward with the splitter. I'd go out to where the bumperettes start on the sides and build it down until it's low enough to anchor the splitter, and then mount the splitter there, and use the central opening to duct air to the radiator. Makes me wish I knew how to fabricate stuff... you could make something seriously awesome looking.

DBLTKE

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Let us know what you come up with. I'm interested to see how it turns out.

INTIMIDATOR Z

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yeah itll be a little while. were both pretty busy with work but i keep bugginh him about tryin to set this up

RSFreak

Yes! I would love to see a rear diffuser that actually looked good on our cars!

dannyboyemt

subscribed, been wanting to do something like this for awhile, dont drive my car on the street anymore so i have no worries how low it will sit. i've look at the universal kits but if i could fab something out of abs plastic that would be even better since i would be able to keep some money in my pocket.

bigdavesiroc

i am definetly down for one. i was thinking of making my own.

dannyboyemt

thought id put this up for inspiration, i was thinking something like this or even doing just the front left and right corners all the way back to the fenders leaving from the grill insert down blank(2 piece design). I'll see if i can find some pics of that style.

Ed1LE

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More inspiration...NufNuffZ28's car:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...ged-tpi-w.html

LivinLarge

Off topic, the hood on that jap third gen is pretty badass!

dannyboyemt

Well nuffnuff bought his car as is with all the aero body work already done to it, if someone can offer insight on how to fabricate his set up that would be fantastic. Not sure if i would run the same set up since hes using the pre-92 ground fx and to me it only looks good with that set up. But from what i can tell theres alot of brackets that have to be fabbed to mount it. But i would still love some insight how to fabb up something like his.

I'll probly just end up buying a bunch of ABS plastic and fasteners and see what i come up with, will post the results when im finished.

InfernalVortex

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That hood is a bit of a sore subject around here...

Orr89RocZ

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As much as I'd like to see a splitter on the front nose of camaros, there is no way in HELL that would work on the street...my nose hits alot of stuff since the front is soo long and the car is so low. I cant imagine anyone elses car having that much ground clearance to use this splitter

Diffuser would be cool on the rear. I thought about making one... could come in handy with 150 mph trap speeds, maybe....

BADNBLK

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Would rather see this hood than all the splitters and difusers in China!!!

Not saying I wouldn't be interested in a splitter or difuser if 6LE came up with one for sale

INTIMIDATOR Z

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well him and I have pretty busy schedules so i havent got to work with him on it. although i got another buddy that is willing to help me mock this stuff up and then well give it to 6LE to build.

white1991rs

are those rear diffusers available for sale some place?

NufNuffZ28

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Hey, I see my car was brought up as I was just getting ready to visit this thread. All of the pieces are custom made...

Yes, the aero stuff was on the car when I bought it, BUT I have taken off,redone, and adjusted every part of it to make sure it was correct and redone for more drivability.

The side pieces are done totally different than they were, but are the simplest. The are basically just cut out pieces of CF. I attached them using blind threaded rivets that allowed me to screw it to the sides of the car for added ease of removal and installation. (page 5 of my build thread)


The front splitter is a pretty cool piece and I have MANY VERY large detailed pics here...


http://jonsmithphoto.com/nuffnuffz28/irocsplitter/


I kept them HUGE for someone who was trying to duplicate it. If someone want's to downsize them and put them in this thread that is fine.

The one thing that ISN'T in those pictures is the support brackets that are crucial for that splitter. I have 3 supports that go from the front radiator support(bolted there) and down to the nose GFX to support it. At speed I'm sure that it would want to push the nose down and without them it would be very bad for the GFX. My recommendation after dealing with this would be to make the splitter attach DIRECTLY to the front bumper like this...




As someone stated above it is virtually not drivable with the lower one like I now have on it. Luckily it is easily removable. I just need to find a way to keep it in the car

The rear diffuser is a pretty cool piece as it doubles as a mount for the A1000 fuel pump. I do realize that they don't extend far enough down or out to make a difference at speed, but they look good and must help some as it is made on a plate that smooths out the bottom of the car back there(exhaust dumps in front of the rear axle)





I THOUGHT I had some more pictures of it, but can't find them now. I should be doing a 9" rear swap relatively soon and will get more then. The carbon fiber pieces are simply riveted to a piece of metal made to contour the bottom of the body under the storage area that are bolted to the body through the area...

zracer92

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very interested. Side splitters need to be considered also.

Orr89RocZ

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I'm gonna have to research more into this but do you think it would make much difference on a car that can get to 150 mph in 9.x seconds? I'm wondering if it would help any if at all on a drag based car that sees street time. Wondering if it would help shave off time going from 100 to 150 mph at top end of the track...and also wondering if smoother airflow under the car can help with gas mileage

NufNuffZ28

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I'm not sure hopefully I can tell you soon


I have just heard from so many nasayers about the have to extend behind the car and much lower to catch enough air to straighten the air and actually help that I went ahead and said it myself!

Orr89RocZ

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yeah I've seen some setups with a very low very extended diffuser but its not as practical on a street car IMO. That section sits up fairly high even tho the car is lowered, so not sure how well a diffuser works unless it sits low.

I will tell you this, if you ever had an oil leak at the motor that made its way to the rear of the car, it will settle on the rear bumper after driving around some. The air is swirling out the bottom back to the bumper. That be one way to see if its working but I'm not leaking oil ever again

NufNuffZ28

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Yes, I have an oil leak I'm trying to fix right now

dannyboyemt

WOW! Tons of useful info/pics NuffNuff thanks so much for sharing! Going to go put it to good use.

Thirdgen89GTA

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Actually, the only reason to put a splitter on a car is for performance reasons. Its illegal in just about every state. Check your local law, there is a limit to how long the splitter can be. Pedestrian safety and all that. a splitter would cut a foot right off or cause major damage even in a slower impact with a pedestrian.

dannyboyemt

scary to think about taking someones foot off from one of these, though i wonder how ford can get away with one on the production boss302? maybe it doesnt extend that far out? it looks like it sits pretty high off the ground, maybe thats their argument. though i think for most of us here something that can be easily removed and put on again would work out better since stock thirdgens scrape their GFX anyway.

Thirdgen89GTA

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One thing to think about. There is a reason that the Viper SRT-10 ACR's splitter did not come installed on the car. It was actually illegal for the car to be sold with the splitter mounted.

C&D, Nov 2008. Page 24.

So those thinking about these splitters need remember that they are pretty much a track day only item.

Would an officer ticket you for them? Probably not, most officers may not even catch it. Much like front plates it would be an "after item" in a stop. But if you were ever in an accident and a pedestrian was hurt because of the splitter your insurance would definitely not cover you.

dannyboyemt

Thank you for covering this, good stuff to know for the uninformed, like me

NufNuffZ28

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No problem. Maybe if someone does a prototype they can send me one and I'll try it on compred to what is on my car.

Dakota W.

Did this ever get anywhere?

dennisschreuer

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Hi Guys,
I have rear diffuser being made this week, most likely powder coating after I pre mount it, then I'll post some pics.
I installed a rear wing, I'm old school and like a standard rear spoiler, but after doing all the reading about wings, it makes more sense to go with a wing.
I can always change it down the road if I don't like it.
I will close up the bottom of the car, and I think I'm going to try a 5th gen splitter. I can also add distance between the urethane lip and the nose the way Childress did on Earnhardts IROC. I am concerned about how the curvature of the lip will sit against the splitter, Guess I'll find out soon enough.
It's exciting! Dennis