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Old Aug 26, 2016 | 08:49 PM
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Re: My '89 build

Originally Posted by reddawg
Thanks Tibo! I went with undercoat mostly because of the harsh winters up here and what the city uses to melt the ice. Even after the roads are swept, there is still residue left that takes a while to wash away.
Gotcha, I thought this was going to be a recreational vehicle. Undercoating on a car that gets driven in wintery conditions and salt is the best decision.
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 08:39 PM
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Undercoat can trap moisture, it's really not a very good coating anymore, there are much better products out there.
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Old Aug 27, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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Re: My '89 build

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Undercoat can trap moisture, it's really not a very good coating anymore, there are much better products out there.
That is an opinion, in my opinion. I didn't believe it when I read it so I did a quick google search and read through half a dozen articles. At best the most anti-undercoating article I read said that undercoating was a waste of money on new cars because the materials, coatings, seals, welds and seam sealers are much better now than they were decades ago. I guess he's talking about our cars? That article was only speaking of if undercoating was a wise investment when buying or leasing a new vehicle, their opinion was that the cars shouldn't begin to rust before 3-5 years and you'll probably get another car then.

Another article basically said undercoating can cause rust if applied improperly. Not covering everything or not thick enough or if some is removed. One of the articles mentioned that shops offering lifetime warranties on undercoating combat this by doing simple annual checkups on the undercoating and apply more if needed.

Then of course there are the plethora of articles and message board pictures that talk about and show the undersides of 30+ year old cars that have been undercoated and have no rust.
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 05:35 AM
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Re: My '89 build

Originally Posted by Tibo
That is an opinion, in my opinion. I didn't believe it when I read it so I did a quick google search and read through half a dozen articles. At best the most anti-undercoating article I read said that undercoating was a waste of money on new cars because the materials, coatings, seals, welds and seam sealers are much better now than they were decades ago. I guess he's talking about our cars? That article was only speaking of if undercoating was a wise investment when buying or leasing a new vehicle, their opinion was that the cars shouldn't begin to rust before 3-5 years and you'll probably get another car then.

Another article basically said undercoating can cause rust if applied improperly. Not covering everything or not thick enough or if some is removed. One of the articles mentioned that shops offering lifetime warranties on undercoating combat this by doing simple annual checkups on the undercoating and apply more if needed.

Then of course there are the plethora of articles and message board pictures that talk about and show the undersides of 30+ year old cars that have been undercoated and have no rust.
You raise some very interesting points Tibo, as I've also done my research into the dangers that Scooter has aforementioned. As I said in my last post, the city I live in uses a calcium chloride, anti-icing solution that builds up along the roadways and can take up to a month after spring cleanup to wash away. I'm going to try and stay off the roads when they're wet, but you know how it is when you plan a road trip and the weather doesn't co-operate. As always, thank you for your input.
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 10:20 AM
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Sub'd... How tall is that HSR from the china wall? What kind of hood are you planning on?
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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Nice to see someone else doing a complete teardown on an 89.
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Old Aug 28, 2016 | 10:23 PM
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Re: My '89 build

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Sub'd... How tall is that HSR from the china wall? What kind of hood are you planning on?
I won't know what the exact tolerances are between the two until sometime before December when I install the motor.

I'll be ordering a hood sometime in the next couple weeks. It'll be the SS hood from either Hawks or ASCD. I'm just waiting to hear back from Hawks with an exact shipping quote.
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Old May 27, 2017 | 06:39 PM
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I'M BACK!

Been a real life winter this year, but everything seems to be calming down and the project is back on track.

My paint and body guy took another job and my car was pushed to the side burner while he got back on his feet. Together we decided to go for a true Candy paint job. Brandywine over Gold with a bit of flake. I should have the car back in another month, but we know how these things turn out?

The SS hood that I ordered was from Hawks Third Gen. i won't go into full detail, but I am less then enthusiastic with the whole ordeal, and the fiasco that followed. The hood they sell is from American Sports Car. And even though I'm not sure which company packed the hood, there is no way it should have been allowed to leave the doors at Hawks in that condition. Not only did I have to return the first hood, but I had to give up when the second hood arrived in the same state. I am aware that prep work is required, but I shouldn't have to rebuild corners. In Hawks defense, I think that they meant well and did offer me a discount towards a future purchase.

Also, I received a new weather strip kit from 1A Auto. Overall the pieces look good, but I will have to wait until the car returns from paint


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Old May 27, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Unfortunate to hear about your experience with the hood. I'm considering making my own mold for one, that way I can only blame myself.
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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Still waiting for the car to be painted, but I now made a decision on the color. I had my painter spray 2 cards. The first was HOK Brandywine over Solar Gold and the other was over Galaxy Grey. I won't waste anyone's time posting the cards, and even though expensive, if you have any doubts, I suggest having these cards sprayed. The color changes so much using diffent methods that looking on the net does nothing. Even though Solar Gold has more pop, it doesn't have the deep, rich color that I find more appealing.

​​​​​Also want to add that I was looking at a couple pieces that I painted myself last year. Posts #37 and #49 show the job I had done. Not feeling comfortable will the quality, I shipped those parts to the same shop that sprayed my oil pan. Picked them up today and I feel much better about them now
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 05:40 PM
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The brackets look great. Wisdom I've learned is that for suspension parts or brackets that see road debris I either powder coat them or spray paint them. The Powder coated parts don't chip. Paint will chip and when it does chip it is far easier and cheaper to respray them with a spray paint then with a two part.
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Yes Tibo! I agree with you fully. I thought I would take a shot at it, but I knew that I would eventually leave it to a professional. I will have them redo my gas tank as well.

You've set the standard well beyond what I will achieve Tibo, so anytime you can throw your opinion in, please don't hesitate 🍺
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Old Jul 17, 2017 | 07:59 PM
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Re: My '89 build

Originally Posted by reddawg

You've set the standard well beyond what I will achieve Tibo,


I'd like to see a picture of the color chips.
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 12:21 AM
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Not even close to exact, but you get the idea.

Brandywine over Solar Gold
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Brandywine over Galaxy Grey


In the light the Gold base gives way less color change at different angles. A beautiful color, but in my opinion it flashes way less. The Grey base under light has a stunning color shift.
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Old Jul 18, 2017 | 12:56 AM
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Yeah, you'd think the gold base would have more orange tint to it and the grey base would look deeper.
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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 02:14 AM
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Well! It’s been a long year with not much good news. The car is back in my garage after my so called “friend” decided to drop the project and have his butt tossed out of his place. It was an expensive lesson, but I’m glad I even got the car and paint back before that went missing too.

Recently I purchased my third set of valve covers, but I believe I’ve finally achieved the look I want - I’m happy with it.

The next step is to find a dependable auto body mechanic and finally get this car back on track, tho it hasn’t been as easy as I thought it would. I will start posting when paint starts to fly


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Old Jul 21, 2019 | 06:42 PM
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That is a gorgeous engine, stunning.
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Old Feb 1, 2024 | 01:54 PM
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I know its been years but how did this project end up.

Last edited by Fords88Bird; Feb 1, 2024 at 02:07 PM.
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Old Feb 2, 2024 | 08:22 AM
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WOW - you're doing a great job! I've got an 84 Sport Coupe we're "fixing up!" Keep up the great work. Can't wait to see it when its done.
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 02:08 PM
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Damn man! I've been reading up on this build and I feel like it was the season finale!! WHAT HAPPEN TO THE BUILD!! I cant wait for season 3! Tell me!!
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