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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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your wife will not have to pay extra, as long as your stang is 14.00 or slower you can have passengers, so you shouldnt have any problems :P

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:11 PM
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Yeah hopefully I can break into 13's but you never knowI could still be a 14 car.Alex,you have or had drag radials on the t/a right?How long have or did they last?I am thinking of getting some but will only see the track maybe once every few months.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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as long as they are only used at the track, they should last quite a while
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 02:19 PM
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Yeah, I'm still running the Nitto 555R's all around. I think the nitto website claims treadwear of 10,000 miles.
Running the new line lock tomorrow, so I'm anxious to get them sticky enough so I can hook up right.

They're pretty quiet on the freeway too - which I like. I just got back from picking the car up (it's been raining since last night) and I'm quite surprised how well they held on to a wet road.

The only one negative thing I could add is that they are so soft driving on backstreets (like that road from In&Out to the raceway) chewed up the sidewall a little because of all the uneven pavement and potholes.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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I'm on my 2nd set of drag radials.
Great to drive in rain with when they are new.
When they are old as mine were, oh boy, not so much.
Got about 5,000 on mine with a lot of city driving.
I put less than 5K a year in general on the GTA though, so that doesn't give you much of an idea.
Too soft though, grabs every rock/pin/needle/nail out there if on the street for long.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 07:52 PM
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so what in n out burger u guys meeting at?
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 07:57 PM
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2475 Sunrise Blvd., Rancho Cordova

Traveling on the 50 Fwy., exit at Sunrise Blvd. and head north. The In-N-Out is on the right side of the street.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:00 PM
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dang..i cant believe i didnt see that post...lol
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:02 PM
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You plannin' on making this one ? The more the better.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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No promises yet. I really want to go cause I havent made it to any meets yet which disappoints me.
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:45 PM
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all ready to go! got the car cleaned, running alright, and dry, sunny weather! See you all at in n out tommorow. I'll leave at 9:30, hopefully be there at around 10.

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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how long y'all going to stay at in&out before departing for the track?

i might not get there till 11 or so.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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I don't think I'm gonna race. I just raced my friends 87 v6 firebird w/exhaust and I pulled only a carlength from 30-70. Obviously my car must be like a 16 second car, what a bummer. Maybe I need to replace some parts like a fuel filter etc etc. Maybe I would of done better from a stop, but a v6 firebird 87, come on So, I guess I'll just watch bearing that I have a very slow 350.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 02:53 AM
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stop whining, and run the car, theirs only one way you can find out.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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stop whining, and run the car, theirs only one way you can find out.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Originally posted by Cali Z
I don't think I'm gonna race. I just raced my friends 87 v6 firebird w/exhaust and I pulled only a carlength from 30-70. Obviously my car must be like a 16 second car, what a bummer. Maybe I need to replace some parts like a fuel filter etc etc. Maybe I would of done better from a stop, but a v6 firebird 87, come on So, I guess I'll just watch bearing that I have a very slow 350.
you complain too much... just run your frickin car
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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well, it was fun. As for the car, I guess it wasn't made to run with the best of 'em. Oh well, had a great time. Thanks for coming out everyone.

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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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booo. ..

ran 14.2's the last 2 runs.



was a good turn out though.
good to meet you alex and jon.

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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:51 PM
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see what happens when kragens get's involved in things !!!!!
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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well robby i think you have a 305, or a highly mistuned 350, bring it down to my house one day and me and traviz will static time your car (we will bring #1 to tdc compression, mark the harmonic balancer and than we can tune it based on that....also i can scan and check your tps, and we can readjust your tv kickdown cable and see if that helps

as far as my car goes damnit i really think i have to send the tranny in its gotta be the 3-4 shift fork anyway again 14.2 at 101mph

maybe one day ill get traction and break into 13's
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Well,Here is your time slip Travis,don't know how well you can see it though.After checking a few things on the car when I got home I found my tps was way out again,my timing was advanced way to far.I am going to buy a few things at summit tomorrow to help my clutch,I have to push the pedal in as far as I can to get it into gear.I was missing shifts left and right.I will get these things fixed and head to the track again in a week or 2 for a much better et!

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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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booo. ..

ran 14.2's the last 2 runs.



was a good turn out though.
good to meet you alex and jon.

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What is the difference in your tire diameter from the old wheels?Maybe that has something to do with it.
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 10:06 PM
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What is the difference in your tire diameter from the old wheels?Maybe that has something to do with it.
I think the overall wheel diameter is about 1/2 inch bigger now.
My MPH was definitely off from before.
Can the wheels really affect it that much?

I was going to mention that too Robby, probably a 305.
Weren't the IROC's in 1985 a 305 anyways?
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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if I remember correctly robby said that a 350 was put in not to long before he bought it
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 11:43 PM
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yeah a 350 was swapped in before he bought it, we need to confirm that now though.

hey steve, my timeslip looks alot like your car.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 12:44 AM
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yeah a 350 was swapped in before he bought it, we need to confirm that now though.

hey steve, my timeslip looks alot like your car.
Sorry,something got mixed up there
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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Hey Eric, that sounds great, it would be nice to get some help with my car, as it seems it needs some tuning. Only going by what the previous owner noted, he said that a stock 350 tpi was rebuilt, then put into the car with the 85 year accesories. The car originally came with an lg4, according to the rpo codes. If he was lying, then yes, it would be a 305, but should still be capable of 15's. My other 88 iroc with a 305 sounded higher pitched than this car, so I thought that helped pass my thoughts as to it being a 350. I'll run it again once I get an exhuast on it, and do some tuning on it, hopefully with some help of you guys. Did travis get into the 12's? I left before I got a chance to see what he got.

oh and del, it's a z28, with the common lg4 option, so it didn't come with an lb9 from the factory.

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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 01:36 AM
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13.1.The slip is at the top of the page.
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Old Mar 6, 2005 | 03:46 AM
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i dont see any time slip now.

but i ran again and got a 13.016 @ 105.7 mph.

soo close only if i had another run

next time i go ill have gears, tires and suspension
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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Glad to hear you guys had a good time. Sorry I couldn't make it, has been a tough week for me and my family. My girlfriends sister's boyfriend, who was also the father of her baby committed suicide last Sunday. I knew the guy 2 years, and it's been a little tough for us all lately, sorry I didn't let you guys know earlier. I was hoping I could make it, but things didn't work out. Hope to see everyone at the next meet.
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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I just added a bunch of pics from the meet this past saturday to the site. High resolution versions of each pic are available - contact me and let me know.

http://www.norcalthirdgen.com/view.php?hit=yes&gid=1
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Old Mar 7, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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yO alex, thanks for the pics.
can i get some high reso's of mine?
164, 172 & 171.

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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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hey, there's me and my slow 16 second camaro! Lookin good j/k!
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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hey, there's me and my slow 16 second camaro! Lookin good j/k!
Look on the bright side of things , you owned him !
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 01:04 AM
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ya that damned civic didnt know how to let off the gas when he launched, i remember that run specificly.
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Nice job Robby, don't worry about how fast you are, takes time and money and some day you will be there. My car is not much better, believe me.

Nice times Travis, hopefully you will hit 12's next time.

Steve, how did your car do? I hope to be there next time and see how she does.

Del, love the new wheels, they set the car off nice. When do you plan on doing more engine mods?

Eric, well, what can I say but your car is a mess right now.
Going to have it fixed any time soon?

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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:07 AM
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oh well, my car is a mess....what are you talking about will haha, im still having that rich problem, and my fuel sending unit are my only problems besides traction, i dont run rich at wot becase it goes into open loop and blm goes to 128, and injectors work fine.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:40 AM
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Ok, it's all good. When are you going to get that rich problem taken care of, any idea of what the problem is? I thought you said your tranny was still giving you problems. I know how you feel about the fuel sending unit, I need one too.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 02:41 AM
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steve didn't do as good as he thought he would but he did find some things wrong with his car Timing, and something about the TPS, and his clutch also

I remember he said he could hear it pinging down the track

I miss my Iroc I wanna drive it so bad I may have to change plans
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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yeah,my pinging was louder than the exhaust leak so I was letting off some,my timing was way to high.My tps was off again.My clutch only lets me get it into gear with the clutch all the way to the floor so I was missing shifts.I got a performance adjustable quadrant for it at summit the other day and I readjusted timing and tps and installed my pullies so...I had a best of 15.0.I can get that down a bit next time I go down there,soon!

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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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Well, hopefully your car will be running better next time, I hope to be there to see it.

Terrell, what's up with your car?
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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. . . i dont run rich at wot because it goes into open loop and blm goes to 128, and injectors work fine.
Incorrect. Your BLM's peg at 128 because you are at WOT,not the other way around. When the engine is under Power Enrichment mode, you have no idea what your AFR's at are unless you either have a Wide Band 02 sensor, or are on a dyno with a 4 gas analyzer. You could be running just as rich, or lean. You really have no idea, plain and simple you need a WB02 to tune WOT -- there is no substitue.

Also your not in open loop either, you are in closed loop the entire time. Look at the Closed Loop flag when your at WOT.
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well than thats wierd cause when i wot it goes to open loop and ignores the o2 sensors signal

and yea i forgot my tranny is giving me troubble it is locking me out of 4th or 3rd

so i think i need a new shift fork, it caused me to miss 4th 2x its like hitting a brick wall, just wont go in no noise or nothing,
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well than thats wierd cause when i wot it goes to open loop and ignores the o2 sensors signal

and yea i forgot my tranny is giving me troubble it is locking me out of 4th or 3rd

so i think i need a new shift fork, it caused me to miss 4th 2x its like hitting a brick wall, just wont go in no noise or nothing,
It doesn't go Open Loop, but your right it does ignore the O2 sensor. The stock narrow band O2 sensor is of no use because the it only has an accurate range of +-1. In the code there is a table for AFR's during PE mode, most likely around 12.7:1. However, just becuase thats what it want's - doesn't mean thats what its getting.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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actually when you go WOT it should go to open loop thats how most all fuel injection works

Will, I haven't done anything to my car yet but Im have some Ideas to get it back on the road ASAP it my be slower but it will be runing I haven't been driving it sence the last meet we had in november cause its knocking and hascoolent in the oil, thats actually new cause a couple days be for the meet(nov.) I changed the oil and it was fine so I think I have a cracked head or block it run's to good to have a blow head gascket

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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by kairles
actually when you go WOT it should go to open loop thats how most all fuel injection works . . .
Originally posted by Traxion
Closed Loop to me means that the Closed Loop bit is set. Remember, we are simply talking about binary code here. If the binary code as the Closed Loop flag set then, according to the binary code, the ECM is in closed loop. I don't see why you guys are saying that it is no longer closed loop. The flag is still set. The ECM will still register as Closed Loop. The ALDL stream still shows closed loop. In PE the closed loop bit is never UN-set. It is still set. It's just that learn control is disabled.
I won't argue with you guys as trax and grumpy have already beat this point of contention into the ground. If you want to really understand what happens when the ECM enters PE mode read the whole tread here.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=238965
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sorry didn't read the thread to long but in a STOCK fuel injection system whether its CFI, TPI, TBI, SFI, OBDII, etc at WOT the ECM or PCM will go into open loop
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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can i show you using datamaster and my aldl cable that it switches to open loop??
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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ok, ok -- I believe ya

- but the point I was trying to make originally was that just becuase you are in open loop and your BLM's are reading at 128, does not mean your not running rich / lean.
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Old Mar 8, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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i agree, its just a 'neutral' setting, until you come back into Closed Loop.
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