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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:17 PM
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oops heres the link tony this says 25th package too just put in the condition and you get price,


http://www.edmunds.com/used/1994/pon...ion.1.Pontiac*
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Old Dec 10, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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haha OUTSTANDING here is 3700 bucks

i guess its soo high for tony cuz of his zip code
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:19 AM
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Originally posted by urbanhunter44
ah, I may not do the trade. I think the kid just wanted to trade cars straight across. WTF rofl my car is worth more than twice what his is worth LOL

I need at least 3 grand to do my motor and get it tuned!!
You should come and take a look at my RS, since you're looking to do an engine upgrade anyways, it might be worth your time.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:51 AM
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post pics i wanna see
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:58 AM
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Aw, my digital camera is residing with my step daughter, if I can get it from her I'll post'em up.

One thing I can say though, is although the paint isn't as shiny as your "memories" thread, the body is in a lot better condition.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 12:59 AM
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Oh...both T-Tops are still on mine as well
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:01 AM
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now thats just rubbing it in
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Ya, just blame it on the 3rd Coors....
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:09 AM
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...light
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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Good: $4,660
Excellent: $5,150

NADA:

Low: $5,000
Average: $6,226
High: $7,100

NADA Collector's Book:

Low: $10,675
Average: $12,200
High: $15,350

I told the kid to take a hike in my last email, no way in ****ing hell am i doing a straight trade.

The car is staying for sale at $7k - I'm in no hurry. I will however give someone a bit of a break on trading me a thirdgen - that is, i'll give them slightly more than it's worth. I only wanted $3k from that kid plus the car.. that's more than he would have ever gotten for it and you all know it LOL I even told him there's no way I'd pay more then $2500 for his car.

On the plus side there's a few people coming to look at it today - one of them is a car collector

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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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and edmunds is bs, tell me where you're going to find an outstanding condition LT1 for $3,100 bucks, and I'll tell you where I'm going to buy a car and resell it for 5 grand
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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I think the problem is the miles
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 01:27 AM
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:16 AM
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actually by playing around with the miles i cant get it to deviate very much, not more than a few hundred dollars. I'll tell people it has a rebuilt engine and tranny, I really don't care. There's nothing wrong with the engine anyway.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by urbanhunter44
I'll tell people it has a rebuilt engine and tranny, I really don't care.


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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:12 PM
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Car: 1991 camaro RS
Engine: 350,vortech heads,zz4 cam,3:73 posi trac,edelbrock carb,wiend stealth intake,raven mufflers,hooker supercomp shorty headers and y-pipe.
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Lets see some pics Traviz
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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ill get pics once its all together.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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update on my situation.

I got an offer of $6500 cash today, told the guy i'd take it.. waiting for a response. If he gets here today, I'll be picking up a 1970 1/2 Camaro Z28 tonight

has a new motor, new paint, new tranny. ran low 12s with a 2.0 60 ft on street tires. dude needs money quick and I have first dibs.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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that one?
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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nope, she's blue with stripes
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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nope, she's blue with stripes
Lucky!
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:00 AM
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$6500, sounds like a deal, hope it works out.
In my opinion the 70's camaro's are the ugliest piles of sh*t on the road, they couldn't be more white trash, especially the early ones. I mean what the fu*k is up with the front end styling, and the rear looks like sh*t. You better get a mulet to go with that 2nd gen, lol. Don't settle for a 2nd gen just because you want something now, wait and get a nice 3rd gen. This is all just my though, to each his own. Good luck either way.

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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Originally posted by wills83z28cfi
$6500, sounds like a deal, hope it works out.
In my opinion the 70's camaro's are the ugliest piles of sh*t on the road, they couldn't be more white trash, especially the early ones. I mean what the fu*k is up with the front end styling, and the rear looks like sh*t. You better get a ****** to go with that 2nd gen, lol. Don't settle for a 2nd gen just because you want something now, wait and get a nice 3rd gen. This is all just my though, to each his own. Good luck either way.

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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by wills83z28cfi
$6500, sounds like a deal, hope it works out.
In my opinion the 70's camaro's are the ugliest piles of sh*t on the road, they couldn't be more white trash, especially the early ones. I mean what the fu*k is up with the front end styling, and the rear looks like sh*t. You better get a ****** to go with that 2nd gen, lol. Don't settle for a 2nd gen just because you want something now, wait and get a nice 3rd gen. This is all just my though, to each his own. Good luck either way.


2nd gens are the S H I T
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:41 AM
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lol, ya they are the sh*t all right, piles of sh*t that is. They don't even look like a sports car or hot rod. They look like a juiced up 4 banger, and their interiors just scream 70's. At least the 3rd gens looks outside and inside will always be timeless.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:26 AM
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i think the 70 1/2s look f*ckin sick, through 72 if its a split bumper its dope in my book, after that tho ya the 2nd gens are ugly as ****.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Well said, I personally do like a nicely done 70-73. The 74+ are just FUGLY to me, not to mention the fact that they are smog dogs.

But the chances of finding one that hasn't been surfed over a few islands / used in a bank robbery / jumped like a bad dukes of hazzard impression / has a bondo repaired sunroof and/or 50 rust holes / IS TOUGH!

Also, if you look at parts avaliability for 2nd gens, it is crap compared to a thirdgen now.

I'd rather get a CLEAN IROC for $2-3500 and drop $3k into a sweet 400+cid smallblock and know that my car looks better / handles better / is faster AND a million times easier to find parts for. Not to mention Fuel Injected from the factory! (Sorry carb guys *coughJesse)

Can't beat our beloved thirdgens in the "Bang for your Buck" category.

Hell I got mine for $600
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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Yeah this one is a 70 1/2 split bumper. It looks ****in tight.

I should be concluding the sale today hopefully, if it doesn't fall through.

I'm split between the 2nd gen and doing my original thirdgen plan.

Also I'm picking up my block today from mike. 4 bolt main 010 woooo!
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:58 PM
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I would go with the 2nd gen!How many of those do you see driving around?I like 3rd gens and all but a nicley setup 2nd is just so sweet.I had a 78 and HATED it!I couldn't even hit 100 mph floored going downhill.The looks went down the pooper from 74 - 81 for sure.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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I want a 74 Z28, thats the best year. first year of the federal bumper laws but they didn't have the *** draggin look of the later 2nd gens plus it was the only year to get the 3 strips. you never see a clean 74 Z28 with the 3 strips I seen one on ebay it went for like $10k
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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You can't tell me this isn't sexy!
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by kairles
I want a 74 Z28, thats the best year. first year of the federal bumper laws but they didn't have the *** draggin look of the later 2nd gens plus it was the only year to get the 3 strips. you never see a clean 74 Z28 with the 3 strips I seen one on ebay it went for like $10k
dude thats ****in ugly, like i said if it aint an early 2nd gen it looks like ***, if it is an early 2nd gen then its my 3rd fav camaro
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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You can't tell me this isn't sexy!
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by kairles
I want a 74 Z28, thats the best year. first year of the federal bumper laws but they didn't have the *** draggin look of the later 2nd gens plus it was the only year to get the 3 strips. you never see a clean 74 Z28 with the 3 strips I seen one on ebay it went for like $10k
Sorry Terrell, 74 to 81 is so damn ugly. The front end is what kills it for me. What the fu*k is up with the headlights, and the stripes look so damn 70's and out dated. To me it just screams white trash and mulet, lol. To be honest I don't like the 70's, period, that time period in this world was fu*ked up along with all the cars and people.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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LOL Didnt like bandit trans ams either then?

And I'm pretty sure I've made up my mind on a thirdgen now.

Hehe my new engine block is sitting in the back of my suburban
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 12:15 AM
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what happened to the POS second gen? pile of dog **** i agree, sure looks nice that silver one. but its still the 70's wtf..
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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Ya Tony, I didn't like the bandit trans am either. Glad to hear you are going thirdgen, keep us updated on what you get.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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Been there and had the '70-81 Camaro's.

First was a 701/2 Z-28, Yellow with Black stripes, LT1 with a 510/520 Crower cam, ran strong for it's day (late '70's). Parked it next to a haystack and the rest isn't worth mentioning. One of the the best body styles of the Camaro...I didn't much care for the Firebirds of the same era.

Next two were a '78 then an '80, both with the plastic bumpers, both ugly and gutless, but handled real good after some work.

I agree after '73 they got kinda ugly, but if you were into road racing they could be made to handle on the cheap.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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The '70 1/2-'73 Trans Ams/Formulas with the 400/455 and hood scoops are my favorite Pontiacs of all time actually.
I hope to own one someday.
Through '73 are the more desirable/valuable body/motor styles for either them or the Camaro.
The oil embargo and emissions standards changed everything after that year.
The later 70's Bandit Trans Am is the only other 2nd gen that most people like, mostly due to the Smokey movies, but it's definitely not on my list.
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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My sister went out with a guy who had the '78 or '79 TA, Gold with the big bird on the hood and shaker scoop, had the big engine ...musta been the 455, was the clone (execpt for the color scheme) of the Bandit car.

Interesting fact for you, when the 2nd movie came out, the car (not just Pontiacs, BTW) was so gutless, they had to run Nitrous to make a smoke show, IIRC, that car had the 326 pontiac engine, but I could be wrong...fact was though, it couldn't get out of it's own way without the juice.

At that time, there really wasn't much engine engineering, smaller cam profiles, bigger combustion chambers and smaller valves were thought to reduce emissions via less power made... thought was less fuel would be consumed.

Sure have come a long way since then, huh?
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Old Dec 24, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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I thought the t/a in part II had a turbo 301.I don't like the scoop on it either,looks good on thirdgens but not a 2nd.
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