So who's going this wednesday?
Bennie I want to race you and your ZR-1 or your Camaro.
And on the website it says that the gates open at 4pm but races dont start until 5pm, does this mean that I should get there earlier before it gets backed or what?
And how packed do you guys think it will be for the opening wednesday night?

 

Not me. Why would you want to race Benny and be smoked?

 

I have been joking with him for a while about racing him just for the hell of it, and he said that if we did it at the track it would be fine. But his ZR-1 is having trouble with its secondary injectors so it wouldn't be a fair race, unless he fixed that problem. And I wouldn't mind racing his one time high 14 second 406 sbc camaro , and the last time he put up was in the low 13's I believe (not sure).

And why do you think I am so slow steve ?

If you want, whenever you want, we can race some wednesday night, maybe even put some money on it .

 

Haha, I can do that. I have no clue how fast you are. Do you have any mods? How much we talkin? Have you even run it at the track?

 

no, I have never run at the track . This wednesday will be my first time if I go. I have enough money to cover say 5K , just joking. We could do something like 100 or 200. I have some basic mods, you know nothing too fast . But I would be more than willing to tell you after we race.

 

Hahaha, look at this youngster tryin' to buy some races.
You better get some seat time with those "basic mods" of yours before you challenge folks.

I'm sure I'll see you at the track in March and maybe the street too, if you're lucky.

If you're at the track by 5, usually you'll get the max of 3-4 practice runs in before 7pm.

 

cameron you have a stock firebird with 150 shot.

you dont stand a chance, against jessie, or bennie

but ill be there to see your motor blow hahahaha jK

poor black penguin im gonna say youll be good for 13.8

 

Oh, you have nitrous huh? Eh, the engine would probably blow by the 1/8th. How many times have you used it? I might have an extra surprize next time I go down there too, no it isn't nitrous.

 

First off Porky, you need to shut your mouth.

Not sure who Jessie is (just haven't met him yet) so I dont know where you got the idea I would want to race him? And you know that I have been joking about racing Bennie, as stated in post #3. I will bet Porky, even if its my first time, that I pull off better than a 13.8.

And the motor will not be blown, I have run it on the street several times, and its still driving great with no problems, and daily driven.

Del, why do you say 3-4 practice runs before 7PM, it says open until 10 PM, are there some other races? bracket racing? I was under the impression that its just street legal racing until 10.

 

Donno who Jessie is but I know who Jesse is

 

my bad jesse. I dont know where Eric got the idea that I wanted to race you, what was your last run, I thought with the spray you were a low 11 sec car? was that you or am I thinking of someone else.

 

Bracket racing starts at 7pm and goes to 10pm+.
You get practice runs in before 7pm to gauge what dial-in you want to use once brackets start.
Depending on when you arrive, you'll get 2-4 runs in before 7pm.

 

True, don't have the unit on my car right now tho so im guessin a low 13 second car since it's built around the bottle
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so who's all goin, i might come n film if i have nothing better to do

 

no need to get your panties in a bunch it was just a joke

well i hope you proove me wrong and do better than a 13.8 but with those dinky street tires i dont think youll be hookin if you spray off the line.

ill see if i have any vht left thanks to terrell and bring it for you fellas

 

yeah, I was talking to Terrell about getting some VHT. I dont think I am going to spray off the line, my 255 rears cant handle it, but these Sumitumo's are actually very nice.

Do you get anything from bracket racing, does it cost extra? (probably not but jsut not sure)

And Porky, why was the shop closed today so early, I went by at 3:30 and it was all closed up? Will Bennie be there tomorrow.

And Jesse you think you could PM me the specs on your setup (i.e. carb or tpi, motor specs, tranny etc.), just curious about your combo and what it takes to get low 11's on spray.

 

305 cubes, camel hump heads, edelbrock 750 vac sec carb, 9:1 compression, zz4 cam
dual stage 300 shot

 

well you can opt in for the cash pool i think its like 20 bucks, if not and you come in 1st you get a beer mug trophy ive got a couple.


i will let bennie make the announcement, no he will not be there tommorrow

 

Holy crap, I must've been in a vortex and never paid attention to your setup Jesse.
I had no idea you were running a 305 with all that spray.
That's why you were trippin' about adding the nitrous in our fastest '07 list.
You should just be proud you have that motor built to withstand all that juice if not to just let folks know it's possible.

I'm sure Bennie will chime in eventually with what his plans are.

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol i hate you guys

 

correction, definetly wont be going since i see this is mid week...have fun tho

 

and to think i liked you

well one of these times us sac towners are gonna drag your *** down here for a cruize



hmm...thats kind of a double standard though

 

Ok now I have not been here that long and I do not know Jessie but I got to call on a 305 and a 300 shot. Unless it is all forged internals (& who would do that to a 305) I don't think a 305 would hold up to that power level.

something sounds fishy.... .... an old set of camel hump heads, edelbrock 750 vac sec & 9:1

Not trying to start a bunch of stuff. Just expressing my opinion...

One of these days I am going to have to slide up to the track and check out the cars for myself... Before everyone knows who I am...

 

I donno but I like the pun
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i don't know a Jessie either (SEE WHAT YOU STARTED )

Anybody else not believe me?

 

I must have had a lapse in judgement.
Reality has set in now on your combo.
I thought I was going crazy.
The zz4 cam should've been a hint.
Bastads.

 

I dont really believe it either, mostly because if you could put that cheap of a setup together and run a 300 shot, people who have been trying to make their 305 go that fast would have instead of swapping to other engines.

 

The only fact I remember about that car is a carb + 10 bolt rear made of glass.

 

huh...musta forgot what i have

 

 

I <3 the interw3b.

That about right?

 

that could be anybody

 

F'n guy, heh.
Don't make me post the link that shows you posting that.

I needed some redemption from my moment of gullibility.

More importantly, does it run nowadays and will it be at the track anytime soon?

 

you guys are funny

 

Yes it runs, no it wont, if i remember correctly my compression is actually 11.46ish to 1...maybe i found a head gasket i wanted or somethin...i donno.

As for the kid from sac, there's my set up, i guess i wont be hustleing anybody on TGO (thx outatime gta).

You wanna get into the 11s on the jug is easy dude...and "cheap" to boot. Ill tell you the next motor ill be building for whatever vehicle in the future just cuz im curious on what it can do and you can copy it for all i care.383 cubes (as cheap as building a 355) Vortec heads, 10.5:1 compression, solid flat tappet with im gonna say right now a mid 240ish @ 50 and .50-.55 lift on probably a pretty wide lsa for the bottle. Vic Jr or Super Vic intake depending on which bid i win on ebay and probably another mighty demon but a 750 more than likely. If i can get away with a 650 ill do that, have to check the math. 200 shot ontop of that...probably a solid 120 trap in a 3600lb car on pump gas is my guess. The wide lsa should maken't make it have too much of a problem idleing plus the extra 33 cubes should eat up some of that duration. ALso should work fine with power brakes. However the single plane and the amount of duration even with the good amount of cubes will probably not have too much down low. That plus the solid cam means "annoying" ticking at all times and re ajustment of valve lash. Somebody like me I obviously don't give a f*ck. However I'm not dumb enough to believe everybodys definition of streetable is the same as mine (being if it runs on pump gas and doesnt overheat) so....

Still not streetable enough for you? i got ur fix for that too. Bump the duration down to say low-mid 230ish @ 50. Keep the LSA and lift the sameish, however instead of a solid flat tappet get a hydra roller. Price is gonna go up since you're going to a roller from a flat tappet (for the cam and the lifters) however this means no ticking and means no ajusting valve lash all the time. Now if you're asking yourself why a solid flat tappet instead of a roller or why a hydra roller not a flat tappet it's because from what I've seen the lift ranges seem to be about the same. Vortec heads max flow at somewhere in the .500" range which hydraulic rollers can cover no prob but flat tappets might have an issue reaching. Solid flat tappets can no problem but solid rollers tend to have a lot more lift. Replace the vic jr/super vic with a performer rpm (airgap if you're ballin). Replace the 750 mighty demon to somethin with a choke probably. Keep everything else the same and now youve probably given up a little uptop but itll be a LOT more streetable with tons more downlow and if this is a daily driver definetly be way more enjoyable and still run the #s you want and just cost a little bit more)

Hope that helps man, there's gotta be tons of other ways to do this but imma pump gas fan and the 1st build i explained is just what I plan on doing in the future just because im curious on how good i dreamt up this build. But back to the tons of other ways to do this thing, theres so many different grinds and cylinder heads and intake manifolds blah blah blah that you should do what you want. If you're kind of new to the "scene" and don't know exactly what to do (you seem kinda young, but could be wrong) you more than have my approval to copy my build (not that you need it). However i warn you, it hasn't been tested so proceed at your own risk if that's your plan. Same goes with the rest of you other guys if it sounds cool go ahead and build it. Id love to see how it turns out without having to fork over my own $

-Rex

 

oh and to re answer this, no, i was just trippen cuz the idea sucks and at the end of the day having a nitrous motor that makes say 400hp and a n/a motor that makes 400hp still both make 400hp. Same goes with pump gas/ race gas blah blah blah and street tires or slicks. By puting nitrous next to somebodys name you are making it sound like it's not really that impressive because he's using the bottle when there's no difference what so ever, he just choose to have nitrous on his car so why should he stick out like a sore thumb for using it. Where does it end? Material of the head gaskets used? electric or mechanical fan? Roller rockers?

 

i dont think anyone believed you jess and besides the gutted interior and no dash kind of would scare anyone off.. but if you want some hustlin ill get you hooked up with the right people.

 

justa pump gas 350 on nuts w/ some street tires

 

Cameron, what did you run?

 

my first run was a 14.49, no too bad for first run ever.

my best N/A time was a 14.2, and my best time on spray was a 13.1.

and Porky took a video of a run where I ran my spray, but I had a friend in the car so it only went a 13.5.

I now plan to get a bottle heater and a go out next week.

I was thinking about getting the shift kit but your shop its not open right, why?

 

Very good for the first time out.
I'm sure that 150 shot is fun.

What was your MPH and 60's ?

 

305 on Camel Humps!

 

I may be getting my heads/cam swap in the next few weeks. Not sure which ones yet but that should make for some decent times. Just need somebody to tune it for me.

How many times you think you can run that N2o without the engine going?

 

the damn mph thing wasnt working

it was a great opening night COMPLETLY DEAD, i wish i would have ran could have gotten tonz of runs in. althouhg they shut it down an hr early

instead of letting lanes 1 and 2 run till 10 they shut it down at 9

cameron should have sprayed more

on a side note armando one a beer mug and they totally changed it, its a lame beer mug now

 

 

When I was NA it was between 93.7 and 94.4.
On spray it was between 106 and 107.5.

My 60' times seem to be horribble, I got a couple 2.2 a couple 2.1 and a couple 2.0, is that about right? should they be better.

I also had some good reaction times as well, one was .038, a .096, and the best was a .008, which I thik was pretty good for the first time out.

And Steve, I am never going to blow the motor given that every thing is working (i.e. no sprak plugs disconnected, or overheating)

I will be going out next wednesday as well with some more stuff on the car, anybody else going to be going?

 

Well it's gounna blow a little sooner than it would if you didn't have nitrous. I'm just wondering how much a stock motor can take. I'm not saying it's being used improperly, just curious as to how long would take.