As the subject says ... this board has a huge membership and a high volume, so you'd think it would be easy to do a search to guesstimate what your car would run at the drag strip. Either that or just go find out. Speculation is for street racers!

However, I have a solution -- have a "sticky" at the top of this section where everyone can post their 1/4-mile times. The first post in the sticky will be like a database of everyone's times. Use a key or legend to signify mods (like, H=headers, C=cam). You can see examples on other boards here (Lightnings) and here (SE-R's).

Each person would reply in the thread with their username, info on their car (year, trim, motor, tranny, rearend type-gears), 60' time, 1/4-mile time, trap speed, and then letters signifying their mods. Then that info will be copied and pasted (by a moderator or I will volunteer to do it ) into the main post of the sticky.

For example:

iownacamaro - 1.76, 13.45 @ 101.44 ('84 Camaro Z28, LT1, T56, 12-3.08), HSEF
slow305 - 2.11 60', 14.44 @ 95.76 ('90 Formula WS6, LB9, T5, 10-3.42), FDP

You would know just at a glance that "iownacamaro" obviously swapped in an LT1 with a T56, 12-bolt rear end and 3.08 gears, and use the legend to figure out what mods he had done -- HSEF would signify headers(H), slicks(S), exhaust (E), and air filter (F). And that slow305 retard would has a stock engine/tranny/rearend with an air filter (F), aluminum driveshaft (D) and underdrive pullies (P).

A=Air intake (cold-air intake, K&N replacement filter, etc)
B=Throttle body
C=chip
D=Drag radials
E=Exhaust
F=Flywheel
G=Head work (porting, non-OE heads, etc)
H=Headers
I=Intake manifold
K=Slicks
L=Lower end work (pistons, etc)
M=Aftermarket carb/fuel injection
N=Nawwwwsssss
O=Shifter
P=Underdrive pullies
Q=Other than OE differential/posi (i.e., not an Auburn, Aussie or Torsen "take out")
R=Race fuel
S=Supercharger
T=Torque arm
U=Clutch
V=Motor/tranny mounts (other than rubber)
W=Weight reduction (other than just spare, jack and floormats)
X=Cam
Y=Turbo (or upgrade from stock if you have a TTA)
^=Rear control arms
@=Bushings
$=Springs
%=Shocks
&=Battery relocation
>=Open wheel differential

Anything else?

 

I don't like the posts either but if you want I can start cracking down and just start deleting them all.

 

stephen 87 iroc
i like your idea.
by the way what will i run just kidding

 

I dont see whats wrong with them. Where else is someone going to ask the question?

 

I usually read 'em to learn more from others about their opinions about various mods...

 

It's as simple as slow305 stated, seems like everybody always asks the same question, takes up space here for a redundent question that is purely guestimating in just about every case. There are probably hundreds of posts if someone used the search button and then they could go and find some combinations close to what they have for a guestimate. Seems that all this drag racing board is becoming is a "what do ya think it'll run" Far to many variables for any of us to answer with any accuracy, you can have 2 identical set-ups but they may run waaay different becasue of altitude, weather, tuning, etc... so why waste server space, or better yet make another forum escpecially for these what do ya think it'll run questions, then for those of us who are intersted in actual drag racing itself, set-ups, etc.. can have our space. Cowboy up kids and take it to the track and get a real number, or better yet, all your cars will run 10's...man your fast.

 

damn..now i cant wait to see what it runs with the motor in it!!!

 

They did. It's called the "Theoretical and Street Racing" forum. Theoretical means "WHAT WILL IT RUN?"

I'm going to let this thread run for a bit longer then make it a sticky and start DELETING not just locking all "what will it run" posts. I don't mind the technical questions even the dumb ones that shouldn't really be answered but asking what a car will run gets a 12-18 second response from me.

If anyone wants to know what their car will run, take it to a track and find out. If you want a guess at what it will run, weigh the car with driver and get some dyno time for a HP rating and I'll tell you exactly what it could run.

 

Agreed: Weight/HP and converter..theres a few web converters at various sites now that can tell you an approx 1/4 time.

What about just moving them to the theoretical board rather than deleting them?

 

I agree, there are quite a few places on the net that you input car info for a guestimate, a drag racing/autocross forum is not really the place. Stephen, I agree that there are some questions that folks ask because they simply do not know or have people around to ask and that's what this board is here for, to help, but when sticking up different engine combos/mods for everybody to "guess" at to me that is useless-get a dart board use some post-it's around the board with different times and throw the dart. I guess when I go to this particular board I'm expecting to see some of the other questions such as what can I do to improve my 60' times, what tires have you had success with, how to tune according to spark plugs, chasis set-ups, weight reduction-where and beneifits, any luck with such and such product and gains/losses in E.T., what convetor, gear, tire size might work best with this combo. There are plenty of us that have our combo's in our sig's and also in our member profiles-space that currently exists and could be used more efficently if one investigated. Hey, I got a 9:3.1 355 with a 3500 stall and 3.42 gears what will I run? who would think 13.0 and 12.90's I sure would'nt have guess it! All for under $1500. Just my opinon again, but jezz-la-whezz, is there any way you can do a count on how many times this question has been asked, and for all those who come upon this post that have asked this question-gotten response-then actually went to a track, how close have all the guestimates been? Hey if 9 out of 10 opinions are right on the money, lets keep this thing going so we can all just throw combinations in the wind to see what everybody thinks, then we'll all know EXACTLY what set-up to run, we'll just have to break it up into a daily driver-street/strip-all strip, section so we know where to go for answers specific to our needs. How can I run 9's in a 3400lbs car?

 

About the only place they have is questions of the safety nature: Will it run fast enough to need a helmet/roll cage/driveshaft loop, etc.

Outside of that, move 'em to the other board.

 

The theoretical in the street race board is meant to be as who might win on the street. As far as what someone will run in the 1/4 that would be best for this board since it's about the dragstrip.

However, what's wrong with what will I run posts, sure if the car is stock is kind of a given, but if you take away those posts, I doubt this board would get that much action. I could be wrong though.

 

they will move it back being that board is for theoretic street racing stuff and this is the 1/4 mile board


but I agree with mark


the post aren't that bad of an idea this board already seems dead and get rid of those post... well what do you have left?


also though to slow 305
here is something else for you
why abv. everything you have for mods
guy one ran a 12.8 c/g/x/h/e
guy two ran a 14.7 c/g/x/h/e
now see they ran different times but yet same mods are listed as far as abv go

so people are going be like WTF??
then they just igve a full list of what mods they had and well.... gets rid of the point to have the abv

 

Do you really think there is going to be a 2-second difference between equal cars (same engine, transmission, gears, etc) with the same mods but different brands? If there is a 2-second difference, I think the 2.8 60' time will give it away for the 14.7-second car ... either that or it was run in Denver. The abbreviation is meant so people can get quickly glance and get an idea what has been done to the car.

If somebody really wants to look into why there is a 2-second difference with those cars, start a thread! IMO, it's better than 10 threads from people with the same/similar mods asking what their cars will run.

 

i think itd be easier just to list the car, specs, mods and times then all this abbreviation crap. its not like were clostraphobic in here. atleast a car a time and a link to a cardomain site. learning abbreviations is gonna suck to have to scroll up and down 20 times to see what each one means. fbody.com has a good way of puttin up the times. www.fbody.com right side of the page.

 

You got it. This is the place to ask those questions, thats where we want them. Drag racing questions on the Drag Racing Board and street racing questions on the Street Racing Board. I like what will it run posts when the poster gets times after every1 guesses what the car will run.

 

It says "Theoretical and Street Racing". How do you draw that conclusion from that title?

If it was supposed to mean "Theoretical Street Racing", then I propose it do what it says, and keep this for real 1/8_1/4 mile situations/advice.

 

The first part of the title is supposed to represent a 'Theoretical Street Race' question and second part 'Street Racing' pertains to a race that happened on the street or "kill".

 

I don't mind the "what will I run" posts but they are usually unecissary and kind of stupid. I usually skip them. There's way too many variables in how a car will perform at the strip to be answered in such a vague question like this. If the question has enough info to where a good guess could be given then that's cool, but people who just list mods and ask the q, that gets annoying. I think only the really dumb posts that don't give any info should be deleted.