Help me stick it!
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From: Ft. Branch, In.
Car: 88 formula WS6
Engine: 305 Lo3
Transmission: 700-R4
Help me stick it!
Any third gen. auto crosser's have this problem? I ran an auto cross a couple of weeks ago and I couldn't keep the rear-end under me for nothing! The front end stuck like glue! I don't have a problem on the long tracks, just the short one's in the parking lots. This particular lot was seal coated asphalt (slick). So, I'm thinking weight distribution right? Maybe someone else has had this happen and found a solution that they could share with me before I embarrass myself any further!
Here's my set-up.
88 Pont. form, WS-6, New rotors w/cramic pads, 245-50-16's on factory alloy's, 700-R4, 3" cat back, open element TBI.
Wt. dis. : front 2120#
rear 1520#
ttl 3640#
Is there any thing such as, a heavier roll bar that could help this problem short of tossing sand bags in the trunk? I'm loosing points on the short track and falling fast!
All weights are w/me in the car. Thanks!
Here's my set-up.
88 Pont. form, WS-6, New rotors w/cramic pads, 245-50-16's on factory alloy's, 700-R4, 3" cat back, open element TBI.
Wt. dis. : front 2120#
rear 1520#
ttl 3640#
Is there any thing such as, a heavier roll bar that could help this problem short of tossing sand bags in the trunk? I'm loosing points on the short track and falling fast!
All weights are w/me in the car. Thanks!
Last edited by sqzbox; Apr 12, 2004 at 10:03 PM.
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From: Ft. Branch, In.
Car: 88 formula WS6
Engine: 305 Lo3
Transmission: 700-R4
The 245 50 16's are on all 4 corners. I haven't lowerd the car at all. I thought the WS-6 package would do beter than it did but I guess the performance susp. is in the front end huh? I read in this mo. car craft mag. about the bad maners the open spool diff. has as far as cornering on tight auto cross tracks. Like I said before, I don't have a problem on the long tracks. I guess it's time to start checking the bone yards for a limited slip!!
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From: Ewing, NJ
Car: 1976 Camaro LT
Engine: 350
Transmission: TH350
limited slip and a little bit of gear would help a ton.
in the mean time i suggest trail braking teh car a lot. my old car had bad manors when philly region woudl go to the small courses at teh boeng facility, i woudl just drag the brake real hard as i started to turn in adn let teh rear fo teh car get light enough to rotate. it is not a great solution, more of a band aid on the bigger problem, ut i didn't lose as much ground that way.
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tim
in the mean time i suggest trail braking teh car a lot. my old car had bad manors when philly region woudl go to the small courses at teh boeng facility, i woudl just drag the brake real hard as i started to turn in adn let teh rear fo teh car get light enough to rotate. it is not a great solution, more of a band aid on the bigger problem, ut i didn't lose as much ground that way.
later
tim
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From: Portland, OR www.cascadecrew.org
Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
what i want to know is how the heck you ended up back heavy in the thirdgen. that would play a major roll in the issue.
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From: Ft. Branch, In.
Car: 88 formula WS6
Engine: 305 Lo3
Transmission: 700-R4
My engine is mounted behind the front seats!
Actually, I screwed up! and your the first one to catch it! Would you like the million dollar prize as a check or direct deposit?
(wieght's have been edited!) SQZBOX THANX U!
Actually, I screwed up! and your the first one to catch it! Would you like the million dollar prize as a check or direct deposit?
(wieght's have been edited!) SQZBOX THANX U!
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Car: 1990 Camaro RS
Engine: Juiced 5.0 TBI - 300rwhp
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton Posi, 10 Bolt
Originally posted by sqzbox Would you like the million dollar prize as a check or direct deposit?[/B]
what kind of tires are you running, our cars tend to push into the corners, but once you start the turn and get on the throttle, the back in is going to want to come around. i would suggest lowering rear tire pressure, and not so much throttle, until you straighten yourself out
you also might try a little less rear roll bar, maybe step down from the 24mm, to like a 21mm. Thread
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