who has the quickest 3rd gen
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who has the quickest 3rd gen
I would like to know who has the fastest cars on this website if you think you are post times and pic or videoe specially launch shot, tell us your combo. I think mine is pretty quick just got it down to track first and only pass before ignition went out 7.21 in eighth mile with 1.64 sixty foot car has long way to go but that was off the trailer just got in running last week I think it will run mid to high sixes and thats all motor no nitrous yet.
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From: bricktown n.j.
Car: 1991 z-28
Engine: 434--654hp---601 torque
Transmission: ATI POWERGLIDE
Axle/Gears: mose 9" / 411 gears
definately not the fastest but not the slowest either
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
There's only a couple sub 10 second cars here. A handful of 10's. A lot of 11's. Quite a few 12 second and slower.
It doesn't matter how fast you go. With the exception of a small handful of racers, the majority of us will be bracket racers where speed means nothing and everyone has an equal oportunity to win reguardless of how much money you can throw into the car.
If you're in a heads up race where the first one to the finish wins, no matter how much money you spend to go fast, there's always someone who's spent more.
It doesn't matter how fast you go. With the exception of a small handful of racers, the majority of us will be bracket racers where speed means nothing and everyone has an equal oportunity to win reguardless of how much money you can throw into the car.
If you're in a heads up race where the first one to the finish wins, no matter how much money you spend to go fast, there's always someone who's spent more.
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all im trying to do is look at some more combos to see what works. I want my car to run mid to high sixes in the eighth and pull the front wheels it didnt pull them with the 7.21 that I ran but I was just trying to find out who is pullin the wheels and what there combo is I think my car will once I get to make some more passes and get in tune but I havent yet. I guess Ill just have to see
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
To my knowledge I have no good launch shots with the SBC and it never pulled the front wheels. It blew up with a best run in the high 11's with only 1.7x 60' times. I never started using a transbrake until after I got the BBC. A 5000 rpm transbrake launch with some deep gears helps pull the front end up.
You need a very hard launch with lots of torque and/or weight transfer to pull the front wheels. Third gens even with a SBC are very nose heavy. The faster a car goes, the less you want the front wheels to come off the ground. It's wasted energy moving the wheels up instead of forward. If you want to make a wheel stander, try and remove 500 - 1000 pounds from the front of the car.
You need a very hard launch with lots of torque and/or weight transfer to pull the front wheels. Third gens even with a SBC are very nose heavy. The faster a car goes, the less you want the front wheels to come off the ground. It's wasted energy moving the wheels up instead of forward. If you want to make a wheel stander, try and remove 500 - 1000 pounds from the front of the car.
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Car: 1992 RS Camaro bracket car
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The 7.21 is agreat starting point. Are you using slicks? high stall converter? If we had the additional cubes and compression we would easily be in sixes. My 350 has a relatively mild 230 dur/.465 lift hydraulic cam and 11.4 compression ratio. We are putting in a solid with more lift and duration.
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From: Hanover, MA
Car: Camaro
Engine: 305-150/254 combo
Transmission: TH350 or T200
Axle/Gears: Srange 12 bolt; 5.14 or 5.38
I would suggest that you look into your suspension/torque converter/gearing combo if you want to hang the fronts. You've got enough grunt to do it now, with some additional setup work you should see an et drop too.
The pic below is from last year with my old bracket motor. 1.48-1.51 60's, 7.0's -7.1's in the 1/8th and 11.23-11.32 @ 115-116 thru season depending on weather/track conditions. I ran it at 3230 lbs all year also.
The pic below is from last year with my old bracket motor. 1.48-1.51 60's, 7.0's -7.1's in the 1/8th and 11.23-11.32 @ 115-116 thru season depending on weather/track conditions. I ran it at 3230 lbs all year also.
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
I know you should be running a 30 x 9 tire but how much gear is in the diff and how much stall is the converter?
I could probably yank my wheels that much too if we had some proper track prep.
I could probably yank my wheels that much too if we had some proper track prep.
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Car: Camaro
Engine: 305-150/254 combo
Transmission: TH350 or T200
Axle/Gears: Srange 12 bolt; 5.14 or 5.38
5.14 rear gears, converter flashed to 4800. I've since had the converter reworked from the bracket motor specs to the 305 dyno sheets but the rear gear is still the same. And yes the slicks were and still are Hoosier 30x9-92.5 radials. Actually you'd be surprised how relatively low buck, low tech the whole car really was.
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From: 51°N 114°W, 3500'
Car: 87 IROC L98
Engine: 588 Alcohol BBC
Transmission: Powerglide
Axle/Gears: Ford 9"/31 spline spool/4.86
I'm back to using 4.56 gears. I made 3 passes on 4.30's and didn't like them. I think a set of 4.71 will go in next. If I had 5.14's I'd probably have to shift above 7500 rpm unless I put a taller tire on. Mine are only 29 x 10. Watching my replay tach, the 1-2 shift of the powerglide is at 7200 rpm with the 4.56 gears and I cross the finish line at around 7100.
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I am using 28 10.5 15 mt drag slicks 4500 converter no trans brake yet I have removed everything I could think of front sway bar a/c of course manual steering gearbox s-10 all of heater box there was a peace of metal in the front end that wnt all the way across I bet it weighed 30lbs or more aluminum heads but havent really done anything else to suspension other than 6 point cage and subframe connectrs I am running 4;56 gears car has weld drglites 3 on front 8 in back what else can I do to take more weight off front without spending gobs of money. I know it will not make it faster to pull the fronts but for some reason I just got to make my car pull them just to say I did it my car is a 88 I cant find anywhere on the net that has what my car weighed from factory I have heard any where from 3300 to 3650 but those were guesses. I know I need to get it weighed!
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From: Hanover, MA
Car: Camaro
Engine: 305-150/254 combo
Transmission: TH350 or T200
Axle/Gears: Srange 12 bolt; 5.14 or 5.38
90/10 struts with Moroso drag springs with one coil cut off up front. 50/50's out back with stock 6 cyl springs swapped side to side, air bag in rt side for adjustment, South Side Machine lower arms (for a G body), relocated mount for boxed torque arm and the big ticket item PeteZ bars out back. Set them up exactly per instructions and tune from there. Very basic and not a big buck setup. Also, once it does start hanging them you will notice a shimmy shake in the steering wheel when it lands. This is common and easily cured with the Ed Quay Race cars steering damper kit. Using this you'll find the landing is very soft.
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thanks for the advice I am trying to talk my brother out of his 90/10 that he bought for his car which is why I dont have a set yet May have to order some though. May sound dumb but what does pete z bars do. do you think I need lower gears
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definately not the fastest but not the slowest either
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
definately not the fastest but not the slowest either
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
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Engine: 434--654hp---601 torque
Transmission: ATI POWERGLIDE
Axle/Gears: mose 9" / 411 gears
why thank you devilsaddvocate. always appreciate a compliment
its getting close to nitrous time once i get a 9 sec n/a pass
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi

its getting close to nitrous time once i get a 9 sec n/a pass
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
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Engine: 305-150/254 combo
Transmission: TH350 or T200
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PeteZ Bars are made by Appletree Enterprises in NY. It's a traction aid device that bolts onto the housing and lower control arm. The kit comes with an insert for the original arm but if you want to use a/m ones they must have the sway bar holes, just get the ones for a G body car. What these do is turn your lower arm into a mini ladder bar and the upper link is adjustable in length to allow you to increase or soften the preload. When I got mine a couple years ago they were about 400 but you'd need to check current pricing.
well a guy i know from here (san jose,ca) just ran a 9.3 this past week in his IROC (@sacramento raceway)..:hail: imma try and find the vid on our local forums here...its one fast mothfugka...lol
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Car: 91
Engine: 427 with dual stage fogger
Transmission: TH400 with 2.75 1st
Axle/Gears: 4.11 moser 35 splines
well
Dunno what my car will run but I have confidence that Fast Times knows there stuff. I will keep you all posted but with a 427 and 101 mm turbo should be fun.
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not the fastest 3rd gen here but i think the fastest 60 degree V6 thirdgen here.
http://sethirdgen.org/multimedia/v6+vs+Z06.wmv
no nitrous or any type of power adder, 15.18 in that run. it has pulled a 2.06 60' on street tires. best 1/4 of 15.15@88 and best 1/8 of 9.51 @ 73. i'm looking for 14s out of it.
http://sethirdgen.org/multimedia/v6+vs+Z06.wmv
no nitrous or any type of power adder, 15.18 in that run. it has pulled a 2.06 60' on street tires. best 1/4 of 15.15@88 and best 1/8 of 9.51 @ 73. i'm looking for 14s out of it.
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Car: 89 Formula L98 power
Engine: '96 subaru, opposed 4banger
Transmission: TH700R4, subaru 4WD
Axle/Gears: 3.27, just works
My iroc with 142,600 miles on it, ran a 13.82 its first run last week, the motor will take it to a 13.50-.60 range, when I box in the control arms and panhard bar, and adding sub frame connectors. The car runs for the mileage, and doesn't look to bad.
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DITTO!!!!! I love to see those. 10/11 seconds are PERFECT!!
Tom
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Originally posted by DevilsAddvocate
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Originally posted by BADDEST305
definately not the fastest but not the slowest either
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
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Ill be the first to say that things a beast, sounds mean as F*cking hell. Love it love it love it
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Originally posted by BADDEST305
definately not the fastest but not the slowest either
http://mywebpages.comcast.net/baddest434/1040small.avi
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Ill be the first to say that things a beast, sounds mean as F*cking hell. Love it love it love it
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