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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 06:16 PM
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a new look

i was getting bored with the car, and was afraid i was about to spend some big bucks to change the appearance up. well, a day and $13 later and i end up with this, lol!

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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 06:30 PM
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that looks killer!!!! completely changed the look and feel of the car
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 06:45 PM
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Not bad man, probably easier to keep clean as well.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 08:08 PM
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I like it.. Racecar! lol
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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thanks ricky! i'm just trying to be like you!
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Screwed your drag radials? Thought that was a big no no ?

The look is slowly growing on me....time to murder it out!
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:09 PM
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Screwed your drag radials? Thought that was a big no no ?

The look is slowly growing on me....time to murder it out!
on high hp cars it can and will rip the beads. matt may be fine, but i wouldnt screw the the next set.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:12 PM
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on high hp cars it can and will rip the beads. matt may be fine, but i wouldnt screw the the next set.
i actually did not know this! i'm going to a slick for the remainder of the season for consistency's sake. i'm running an index class this season and am looking for any and all things i can do to make the car run the number ever time. the slicks are also cheaper...and i'm a poor college kid still
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:18 PM
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I powder coated a set of those for a guy about a year and a half ago was just like that but left the lip polished..........I was wanting to put them up to the car to see what they looked like but didnt have the tiime , figured they would look nice....and they do, very nice love the new look.

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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:38 PM
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That looks really good. What kind of wheels are those? I think I have a new favorite
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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hey flirtin, would you be interested in doing another set maybe over the winter? i'd like something that's more durable.

built91Z28, these are Billet Specialties Street Lites
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:48 PM
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We are in the middle of a move right now so not doing any powder at the time (long story) and not sure when we will be back up and running but it propbably will be awhile....I can give ya a shout when we are or I might be able to point you to someone close to you if we are not back up when you are ready.
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 09:57 PM
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either way, i'm in no rush
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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just make sure to overcharge matt so mine are free
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Old Apr 21, 2011 | 11:44 PM
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One of the local street racers with a real fast turbo car painted his Weld draglites flat black. From a distance it looks like factory steel rims without hubcaps.
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 06:02 AM
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is it a mercury zephyr with an lsx by chance?
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 06:31 AM
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Buddy of mine did his pro stars on his nova black, it is ok but I hate it.
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We did this set for a guys racecar, I think they looked good on it IMO.....

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NICE

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just make sure to overcharge matt so mine are free
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 02:49 PM
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is it a mercury zephyr with an lsx by chance?
Yes. Hows this for a sleeper? The car has run 9.1 on 94 pump gas.





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LOL quite the sleeper!

Car looks good as always Matt!
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that car is well documented on yellowbullet
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 06:14 PM
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Looks Great Matt! looks like a scary race car now... one question what size and where did u get those front tires? i tried tirerack and summit with no luck
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Old Apr 22, 2011 | 07:41 PM
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they are kumho 165/80/15's. i got them from my local firestone
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they are kumho 165/80/15's. i got them from my local firestone
In case you are having trouble finding them, they were the stock size tires on old VW's.
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 04:58 PM
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they're not really speed rated, and will be replaced before the season is out by a hoosier 27x4.5
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Old Apr 23, 2011 | 06:55 PM
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The old VW tires 165R15 were commonly used.

Still not speed rated but good to use for a front skinny are from a Smart car. They use a 155/60R15 on the front and 175/55R15 on the rear.

They are both very short tires. The 155 is 22.3" tall. The 175 is 22.6" tall. For a front skinny, it would be better to have a 24-26" tall tires. The VW tires are 25.4" tall but are normally hard to find. Not a lot of tire stores carry that size.
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Looks Great! I also like the look with the outer lip still shiny like flirtin did.
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Re: a new look

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they're not really speed rated, and will be replaced before the season is out by a hoosier 27x4.5
Are you having a problem with tech or something? I generally perfer them with drag radials on the back because you don't get that weird radial/bias ply shimmy like you do with most front runners and DRs

Won't 27's be too tall?
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Old Apr 25, 2011 | 08:43 PM
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no problems at tech, just wanting to go to a lighter tire

i'm going to a bias ply slick as a replacement for my drag radials this season. i want the consistency for the 10.90 class i'm running this year.

27's will fit fine. here's 28's on the same car two years ago:

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Are those 28s on the back also?

You know, somehow it seems like no matter what you do to that car it looks great...
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 12:08 AM
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I run 28" tires all around on my car, no issues with rubbing in the front, although I did remove that black plastic piece from the wheel wells up front many years ago if it would even matter I don't know.
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 05:34 AM
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Are those 28s on the back also?

You know, somehow it seems like no matter what you do to that car it looks great...
in that picture, it has a 29x9 in the back. thanks for the kind words mark!
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Looks great like that Matt. - I'm not a fan of solid black-outs, but if you leave some polished accents they can look really good on the right car.

We've had a few body/paint casualties in the past six months with some local cars running on the typical VW "skinnies". Lots of 3200+ lb cars running really fast now-a-days, those low speed rated tires just aren't safe like that.
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Old Apr 26, 2011 | 02:11 PM
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i mean, i'm not that fast, but it can't be good allowing nearly 3500lbs to go 127ish mph on those tires...i'm working on ways to break the 130mph mark, and i don't want to have a mishap
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Looks great like that Matt. - I'm not a fan of solid black-outs, but if you leave some polished accents they can look really good on the right car.

We've had a few body/paint casualties in the past six months with some local cars running on the typical VW "skinnies". Lots of 3200+ lb cars running really fast now-a-days, those low speed rated tires just aren't safe like that.
were they actually related to tire failures or were they just "dude hit something while on those tires?"

The fact is that speed ratings are for "sustained speeds" and those should be perfectly safe for quick bursts up to anything reasonable (at least 130, I'd feel fine to probably 140 or 150), and are rated for a higher load then most actual drag skinnies (unless you get like the extra ply ones most are not rated for heavier cars). The other issue is that if you're driving to the track on DR's or Dot tires, I don't believe that any actual drag skinnies are DOT rated and I wouldn't trust any of them in the rain (some DR's actually do OK, and I used to really like McReary dirt track tires for drag use which work really well in bad weather, I know, but in some areas weather on the way to/from the track is a reality)
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i trailer my car...the trip to and from the track is made on 205/75/15 8ply radials
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Re: a new look

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were they actually related to tire failures or were they just "dude hit something while on those tires?"

The fact is that speed ratings are for "sustained speeds" and those should be perfectly safe for quick bursts up to anything reasonable (at least 130, I'd feel fine to probably 140 or 150), and are rated for a higher load then most actual drag skinnies (unless you get like the extra ply ones most are not rated for heavier cars). The other issue is that if you're driving to the track on DR's or Dot tires, I don't believe that any actual drag skinnies are DOT rated and I wouldn't trust any of them in the rain (some DR's actually do OK, and I used to really like McReary dirt track tires for drag use which work really well in bad weather, I know, but in some areas weather on the way to/from the track is a reality)
Random blow-outs, mostly highway speeds. - The problem isn't just the speed rating it's also the weight. Most for-real street muscle cars today are 3300+lbs which way over-loads those tires thus substancially lowers the speed they will handle, due to the over-stress and extra heat created by the weight.

The new sportsman SR's are full tread radial and speed rated.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 10:04 PM
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Re: a new look

Originally Posted by mw66nova
i was getting bored with the car, and was afraid i was about to spend some big bucks to change the appearance up. well, a day and $13 later and i end up with this, lol!









What size are those wheels, tires, backspace, etc? They look awesome, i have an 86 bird with a pontiac 462 that is begging for some fat tires! And what are the dimensions of the skinnies in front?
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I can see the front tire size right on the tire. 185/80R15. Probably mounted on a 4" rim as that's the typical skinny rim size. The tire is 26.65" tall. It's a radial but unlikely has a high speed rating. Highway driving is fine but prolonged very high speed driving isn't recommended. Even a drag skinny doesn't have a high speed rating however they're not at high speed long enough to heat up.

Before these street skinnies were available, drag racers used VW tires. 165R15 tires but they're very short at just over 25" tall.
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Old Jan 24, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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try again alky, those are a 165 tire on the front
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What size tire and wheel and back space in the rear? Is that the stock rear end?
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try again alky, those are a 165 tire on the front
Looked like an 8 to me
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 06:03 AM
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What size tire and wheel and back space in the rear? Is that the stock rear end?
Pictured is a 275/60/15 hoosier radial on a 15x10 with 6.5" backspacing. Moser 9"stock width
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Does the moser 9" bolt right up or did you have to fabricate?
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Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Re: a new look

it's a direct bolt in

more info on the axle/housing package here
http://www.moserengineering.com/hous...rt-number.html
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 09:18 AM
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Re: a new look

I don't know if I can spend that much, I was going to beef up the rear end that's in it but I don't know how big of a slick I could tuck in the fender? I have a ford 9" also but I'm not sure how much fab it would take to fit?
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 09:25 AM
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Car: camaro sportcoupe
Engine: 7.0L
Transmission: G-Force GF5R
Axle/Gears: Moser 9"
Re: a new look

the biggest i've fit is a 28x10.5 mt et drag, but some have gone bigger with mini-tub



putting a 9" in the car can be done a ton of different ways. with stock suspension racing on the rise, i opted to not do a backhalf on the car and kept the torque arm and such. you can buy just the torque arm mount to weld to your housing from moser or a number of different companies. i believe they also sell the spring perches and other bracketry through moser. i know racecraft does, but they're more pricey than moser.
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 09:52 AM
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Re: a new look

I was thinking about putting a posi Detroit locker, ring and pinion, and c clip eliminators on the stock rear end and I think I could tuck a 9" slick in. Opinion?
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Old Jan 25, 2013 | 10:05 AM
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Re: a new look

Originally Posted by 86bird462
I was thinking about putting a posi Detroit locker, ring and pinion, and c clip eliminators on the stock rear end and I think I could tuck a 9" slick in. Opinion?
You still gotta fab control arm mounts, shock mounts, spirng perches, torque arm mount and panhard rod mount.

If yo uare a good welder and fabricator, go for it, if not, buy a premade housing.

9" slick will fit, no problem.
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