do you think with the proper flanges these could be used as turbo manifolds?

 

How? Mounted right side up the oulet will hit the engine mounts, mounted upside down they'll block the plugs...

 

not gonna work..

 

Who makes those?

 

LMFAO!

 

isn't the "Y" body the corvette?

 

Yes it is. I'm over here trolling around looking for turbo info.

B4Tom1,
I am trying to find the humor in my statement, but I cant see it. lol... Can you enlighten me?
I am going to guess those exhuast manifolds are stock 3rd gen F-body?

 

I am sorry I wil take this serious. Those are what is commonly reffered to as "rams horn" exhaust they were produced by GM in the 50's and 60-s and were standard fare on many GM cars including the vette. strangely enough the Y-body (vette) is the only car I know of that for years and years later all the way til the most recent models that this old style exhaust manifold could still be fit onto. (thats part of why I was laughing) There may be some reproduction companies making them now but considering how prolific they were it seems only slightly likely to me. It is commonly considered to be the best flowing stock cast iron manifold to date, with the title being disputed by the late style rams horn found on the 90's LT1 Fbodys. the one pictured has an accessory provision cast into it and some didnt. There is a special casting # rams horn (Im sorry I dont know what it is) that matches the # for a 50's (57?) chevy bel air or that type with the factory dual 4 barrel setup(283?). One collector said he would pay $60,000 dollars to posess it, for he would finally be able to recieve his platinum certificate or something like that for a perfect restoration.

 

I'm pretty sure that the "accessory provision" is a right and left thing (originally one side got it the other didn't).

And yea, B4CTom... I find it funny that the y-body guys would come over here asking about a manifolds that only work well on y-bodies... (had the same thought but was restisting saying anything)

 

I see now.
by any chance does anyone know of an exhuast manifold that fits in tight like a "block hugger header" but shaped like the the "ram horn" manifolds?

 

the majority of the streetrod "block hugger" headers are based on the shaping of a rams horns. I must warn you that the standard "block hugger" and rams horns themselvers do no fit any thirdgens. click here to see lotsa block huggers and a few "non typical" block huggers too http://images.google.com/images?q=bl...=Google+Search

 

Um, is this a trick question? The rams horn manifolds are basically the same dimentionally as block huggers. If you want cheap block huggers then get some C4 vette stock exhuast manifolds, they're tubular stainless roughly 1.5"...

 

so very true. My interest in the whole deal started when I looked at my buddie's 93 vette. He said I got these hooker coated header and they cost alot. then I looked at them and realized what a scam. I looked at some late 60's, some 70's and 80's and realized they are all basically the same-wow!

 

The left one is a stock 1984 Corvette stainless steel exhaust manifold with heat shelds.



Cut the emiossions tubes off and it should fit upside down and clear the plugs.

 

edit: double post

 

I took better pictures of my stock 1984 Corvette exhaust manifold. I think they could be converted to turbo manifolds.
First cut the AIR-tubes and weld the holes and mount them upside down.
I think the most restrictive part is the collector. I would cut that off and weld a 90 degree bend in its place so the exhaust is pointing forward. If it clears the hood, then the most difficult part of the turbo manifold is done.

You also see the stock heat shield. That could be a good thing with turbos too.

(Click the pictures to enlarge)

 

But do ram horns sit right agaist the block like block huggers do?

I have the stock tubular manifolds on my car stock. they do not hug the block like a block hugger does. I figure the ram horns are the same??

I was trying to not get too involved in details here since this is a camaro forum, but I think I need to explain myself here.

this is what I am trying to do here. I dont care for the pipe shape around the spark plugs. Thats why I am asking about the cast manifolds.


Make sense now?

Basically need a set of block huggers with a U pipe to come back up.

 

to me the stock manifolds are built shorter and tighter making them a better cadidate for being converted.

 

or get manifolds like these.

 

Hum, maybe something like this:



and yes, they do clear the hood on my '87 formula (camaro hoods are taller so it should be a piece of cake there) even without trimming the collectors, or you can make some pipes from the collectors to the turbos and mount the turbos at the front of the heads and run the down pipes under the headers. No, I'm probably not going to use them, I don't like some of the consequences or running the twins and found a single(which is what I originally wanted) that would work.

 

What if you guys used calloway headers? Wouldn't they work on my car? Some of you guys get aluminum vette heads right? Shouldn't calloway headers bolt up? I have always thought about using them, that would make the install a lot easier, but finding a pair of those headers might be a little difficult.

 

Ya think? LOL

I cant beilve that no one has taken a set of these stock C4 manifolds and bolted them to a thirdgen and made a crossover pipe between them and made a single setup out of them. Seems doable. I dont have a set handy though so I wouldnt know.

 

What the hell is up with this damned board... I've tried this 3x... one more and I give up:

They won't fit. they're not even close, they hit the K-member. Cutting the collectors/flanges off of them makes them better but not good enough to work (yes, I've got a set + an f-body with no manifolds on it right now and have tried them).

 

headman pt#68400...they clear most angle and strate pluges, and have the #1and7 / 2and8 tubes goiing the out side insed of the inside like most others. i'm building a single t for my 81 malibu. i had to use a blowe torch to heat up the drivers side header and bend them closer to the block. I also had to grind off some of the collector to clear the k member. To bend the header i bolted it to a junk motor on a stand that i didn't cair about cooking. you might not have to on your cars

 

Sorry I misunderstood. I thought you had the callaway manifolds, and I jumped the gun.

 

I dont know if they work on the F-body, but they are not easy to get. callaway told me they were 1800.00 each.

 

who makes those?

 

Guido,
Why are you such a stuck up ignorant smart ***? Is it because you have a fast camaro with a turbo? Does that make you better then everyone else? All the stuff I hear about you seems to be positive, and that you seem to be helpful, except when I post something, you always seem to show a different side. You guys never talked about using a calloway header, so I thought I might mention it to people who don't know about them. But not you, you seem to know everything, and can't be wrong huh? Try growing up a little and getting a little more mature, after all, your fighting with a 17 year old kid, does that make you feel any better? Do me a favor, and don't reply to any of my posts if all your going to do is show your arrogant conceited side, Thanks.

 

i believe the manifold i have was made by banks, but i could be wrong. i do know that there might be a company out there making reproduction manifolds, that is what i here on the turbo websites anyways.

your best bet is to find a used set or one, depending on if you go single or twin, off of ebay, or a similar site. also there are web pages dedicated to selling and tradeing turbo stuff, but i dont remember the address, just do a serach on yahoo or some other search engine.
just dint get ripped, i wouldnt pay more that 150 for the manifolds by themselfs unless they were a good desine (has a spot for the wastgate) otherwise you have to make an adapter plate for the wastgate. i paid 150 for mine and that was shipped, and it had everything but the crossover pipe, but it was intended for a carbed setup, so i have to buy a few things for my lt1 intake, but if i were useing a carb, it would have just bolted right on.

thanks
anthony

 

someone have a pic of a calloway header??? thanks

 

There was a Corvette Callaway Turbo kit on sale on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...873636658&rd=1

I am quite sure that the Callaway headers are modified stock Corvette headers ...

1800.00 each seems a bit much for them.

 

That was right of of Reeves Callaways mouth Joby. 1800 each and they are built out of stainless.

I do agree with you, looks like they cut up the stock stuff. IS it the same stainless as the stock manifolds I wonder?

 

Just buy the Banks manifolds if you need them..they are still avail,so what is the problem>?

 

The problem is acually finding a set of them. Theyre not manufactured anymore, to the best of my knowledge. Thats the whole problem.

 

88WS6-YOU can still get them from Banks!...Call over there and ask for their dealer department.speak to Either a Chris or Jeff and they can help you get them!..They are still made,just in limited quantity...

 

Yeah, how much for a pair though? That is the question.

Pj

 

Woah slow down there. I wasnt trying to be an *******. I was just joking about how hard to find those calloway headers are. I dont know how I came off as a stuck up ignorant smartass. How does me having a fast car make me better than everyone else? Sounds like you are the only one being argumentative here.

Do ME a favor and cool down before you anger someone else on this message board.

 

They are not cheap....I think they were about $600 retail if I remember correct from the entire TT manifold kit,but if someone needs to get them..they are avail!

 

Ah so they are still available... Hmm thats interesting! Considering the money I would have to spend on a welder, SS tubing, and hours apon hours of labor, it might be an economical alternative. Do the Banks manifolds have wastegate provisions?

 

That I do not know...I just remember hearing you can still get them direct from banks on a special order..you should give them a call and see...I think their # is 626 691 2158...good luck