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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Enough of this Turbo and Supercharge stuff, lets see some HP numbers for the Nitrous guyz!! I'll start

545 Hp, 493 Ft-Lbs NA

798 Hp, 805 Ft-Lbs w/ 250 shot
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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pretty impressive power.this of course is flywheel power right???have u taken u car to a chasis dyno???
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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nope, spring time i will put it on the chassis dyno. I only made about 5 runs NA, then we did one Glory run with the juice All i want is a 9 second timeslip, any predictions?
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Old Oct 5, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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i think we should line up. it would be a good race.

i hope you get your 9 second slip. i'm staying on this side of 9 seconds since i didn't weld up my whole 10 point cage, only did the 6 point for now.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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361 and 551 at the wheels. w/ 100 shot. I know, not that impressive. The new motor Should be able to keep up w/ you guys. Just waiting on a computer to run it now.
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Old Oct 6, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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xpndbl3, lemme know when u come to new york and we'll line up haha I'm only running an 8pt bar and it is legal, i have my IHRA license and all.. What makes it legal is that i still have all my stock floor pans and stock firewall, if you have modified either of these then you need a 10pt



Free Bird, Nice Numbers! I'd say they are impressive, 551 to the wheels is awesome! :thumsup:

C'mon nitrous guys, chime in here anytime.. All i've been seeing lately is turbo this turbo that and some big power numbers but we can outdo them haha
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 02:55 PM
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Originally posted by xpndbl3
i think we should line up. it would be a good race.

i hope you get your 9 second slip. i'm staying on this side of 9 seconds since i didn't weld up my whole 10 point cage, only did the 6 point for now.
xpndbl3
your car looks familiar, by any chance were u at GLD yesterday october 6.


C'mon nitrous guys, chime in here anytime.. All i've been seeing lately is turbo this turbo that and some big power numbers but we can outdo them haha
well i had nitrous on my old setup.Right now i run NA.but maybe will go to nitrous in the future, i still have the nitrous tank and lines hooked up but no carb adapter plate.Im surprised too that no one really talks about nitrous.Theres alot people that come on these boards on a low budget youd think nitrous would be more talked about since its cheap and relatively easy to hook up.
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Old Oct 7, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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how about this. had an old 350 setup that went 13.0 on nuts and 11.50s all day long on a 150 shot. haven't had the new setup tuned yet. But what does IHRA allow a 8 point cage down to with stock floor pans and firewall(Which i have).


and no i don't think i went out to GLD the other night, although how'd the runs look from the stands? might go to street car chaos at 41 tomorrow night though. i want to pull the front wheels
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:07 AM
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Originally posted by xpndbl3
how about this. had an old 350 setup that went 13.0 on nuts and 11.50s all day long on a 150 shot. haven't had the new setup tuned yet. But what does IHRA allow a 8 point cage down to with stock floor pans and firewall(Which i have).


and no i don't think i went out to GLD the other night, although how'd the runs look from the stands? might go to street car chaos at 41 tomorrow night though. i want to pull the front wheels


i remembered being ready to do a burnout but couldnt cause some camaro had problems down track,hmm u know gas prices are sure high these days. i guess it wasnt u

i raced at us41 once this year.good luck with pulling the front wheels.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:53 AM
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how is GLD by the way? never been to it but heard they put on a good show. that's why i asked about how it looked from the stands. wisconsin is a bit of a drive for me with US41 and route 66 being soo much closer to me. and thanks i hope to pull them too, we'll see.
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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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tame but it's actually in the work parking lot everyday.


12.63 @ 109 1.77 60' on motor 11.38 @ 118 1.5560' on 100 shot. 2600 stall and 3.07 gears. ( stock D-36 rear)

355
9.8-1
cam 218-230 @ .050
750 VS, with elec. choke hooked up and working.

On the chassis dyno the 100 made 360 HP @ 5900 495TQ @3100
the 150 made 380 HP @ 5900 600TQ @ 3200.

I agree it's cheap, and when not in use the motor doesn't have to suffer to lug it around.
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Old Oct 9, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by SnkSknrZ28
nope, spring time i will put it on the chassis dyno. I only made about 5 runs NA, then we did one Glory run with the juice All i want is a 9 second timeslip, any predictions?
I believe you will run in the 9.70 to 9.90 range. With a real good sixty.

What type of porting is done on your heads?

WHat type of k member is that?

and finally if you don't mind what size is your cam?

If you don't want to tell me anything thats fine I just would like to know? Thats a lot of power and I'm jealous!HAHAHAHA!
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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by christian
I believe you will run in the 9.70 to 9.90 range. With a real good sixty.

What type of porting is done on your heads?

WHat type of k member is that?

and finally if you don't mind what size is your cam?

If you don't want to tell me anything thats fine I just would like to know? Thats a lot of power and I'm jealous!HAHAHAHA!
Porting was done at AFR when i ordered the heads, its there competition port, 100% cnc porting

Kmember = chromoly PA racing

Cam = comp cams solid roller xr292

And a 9.7-9.9 range would be SWEET!!

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Old Oct 10, 2004 | 04:03 PM
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Thats awsome. Can you use the stock steering components with the PA K member. I thought you had to use a rack set up?

Did you port your vic junior at all? When I assembled my motor I was noticing it seemed a little smaller then the ports on the heads!
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Thats awsome. Can you use the stock steering components with the PA K member. I thought you had to use a rack set up?

Did you port your vic junior at all? When I assembled my motor I was noticing it seemed a little smaller then the ports on the heads!
I used all the stock steering components no problem.

I did not port my victor jr, didin't seem necessary to me, everything seems to line up fine..

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 05:55 PM
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Cool thanks for answering my million questions.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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Engine: 400 Olds Rocket
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819 HP
576 FT/LB
N/A



1271 Hp
885 Ft/LB
(300 shot)


Real World
9.29 @ 148 on a 150 shot

Car Weight # 3575 & Stock Suspension set up

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Here is the dyno sheet

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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Originally posted by SnkSknrZ28
All i want is a 9 second timeslip, any predictions?
My engine made the same hp and tq that your engine did with a 250 shot, and it has gone 9.54 @ 144.8 mph, on less than ideal track conditions (race weight @ 3500 lbs). My car is back-halved, has a full cage, and 14x32 slicks though.
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Try that again
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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435 hp 476 ft lbs tq (rear wheel)
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Old Oct 13, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by SEEJGO
Try that again
holy $hit that thing revs high
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by daverr
holy $hit that thing revs high
Did you happen to notice what heads are on it....
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:36 AM
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Did you happen to notice what heads are on it....

no i havent.id imagine that it has a very big cam.I dont know what heads he running.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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Ok, here is what they probably are:

Buick/Chevy aluminum 10* head,
42cc chambers, symmetrical ports,
235cc intake port volumes,
2.1"/1.625" valves

And this is out of the box!
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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what size is this motor?
819 hp Na is amazing
those 10 degree heads sure support big hp numbers.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 12:58 AM
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The top of his Dyno sheet says 400"
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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Wow finally some input! Nice numbers guyz!!

seejgo, what kind of compression are you making with that setup?


Motor City Mike, 9.54 @ 144.8 mph, nice numbers!

Honestly i'm hoping for a 10.6 @ 127mph naturally aspirated and a 140mph trap with a 200shot i can't really guess on the ET cuz i dont have a clue, but like i said b4 a mid to high 9 is what i'd like to see I need to get my car backhalved! That'll be my next project, except i'll probly backhalve it and front halve it at the same time, maybe even build a nasty bigblock and go race HotRod and SuperRod
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:43 AM
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Buick/Chevy aluminum 10* head
You are correct !!



seejgo, what kind of compression are you making with that setup?
C/R: 13.75:1




maybe even build a nasty bigblock
Hey SnkSknrZ28v What does your car weigh ??

Now why would you want to carry all that weight down the track?? You can make more HP per Cube with a S/B,Not more Hp,More Per Cube. Its not the size of your wand its the magic in it !

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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 12:51 AM
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819 hp Na is amazing
It's really not. It would have made 1000 + NA if we would have went with alum rods and lighter weight crank and pistons, remember the motor was built to handle 500 + shot.
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Old Oct 16, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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No dyno numbers yet but my times made a jump from 13.42 @ 102 to an 11.55 @ 119 on a 210 shot Didn't launch on the button so it probably could have been better. Didn't get a chance to try again that night
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Originally posted by SEEJGO
It's really not. It would have made 1000 + NA if we would have went with alum rods and lighter weight crank and pistons, remember the motor was built to handle 500 + shot.

are u using a custom exhaust headers or off shelf header.How much does your heads flow??valve sizes??.something like this requires alot of maintence id imagine(checking valve springs).So basically this motor u just tow it to the staging lanes, start it up make a run ,shut it down,tow it back right???.u cant idle it long??
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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are u using a custom exhaust headers or off shelf header.How much does your heads flow??valve sizes??.something like this requires alot of maintence id imagine(checking valve springs).So basically this motor u just tow it to the staging lanes, start it up make a run ,shut it down,tow it back right???.u cant idle it long??
Custom exhaust, yes there are no off the shelf headers for those heads. No it does not require alot of maintence, I have adjusted the valves once this year, I have looked at them more but they did not require adjustment, they are all mounted on a large bar. I drive it on the street, I sat in traffic for well over an hour & 1/2 at the Woodward cruise, believe it or not with the cooling system I have the car did not even get hot. I take it to cars shows all the time. If you talk to the right people and pick out the right combo this is really not that difficult. John Meany did the fuel injection. On the head flow all I will say is that they are just shy of SB 2's on the intake and completely crushed SB 2's on the exhaust side.

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My car weighs about 3300 lbs, i took alot of weight out of it without gutting it totally, full interior, added alot of lightweight suspensino parts rather then the stock crap, chomoly kmember and Aarms, etc..

Well i wanted to see how nasty i could build a small block, NA, and keep it totally street mannered and drivable, and i accomplished my goal and then some, this thing is awesome. But i'm one of those guyz that gets more satisfaction out of the work put into it.. I also wanna build another small block, someting street drivable again but bigger cubes, like 470ci or something, and then toss on some nitrous and aim for 1000hp.. Then theres the big block thing, i wanna do the same with a big block, 540ci or whatever, soemtihng along those lines.. What can i say the wheels are always turning in my head, so many ideas, so little time..
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Hey SnkSknrZ28v What does your car weigh ??

Now why would you want to carry all that weight down the track?? You can make more HP per Cube with a S/B,Not more Hp,More Per Cube. Its not the size of your wand its the magic in it !
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Old Oct 17, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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That is what I am working on now also , weight reduction. I still have full interior, power windows ETC. I am waiting for my tubular K Member and am fighting with the idea of Back Halfing. I only want to back half so that I can run a "W" tire. I am the same way, I would rather work on the car than dirve it. I usually have another guy drive on spray, it is a handful, and I am just not ready for that yet. #3300 LBS with a full tank and you in the seat ??
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That is what I am working on now also , weight reduction. I still have full interior, power windows ETC. I am waiting for my tubular K Member and am fighting with the idea of Back Halfing. I only want to back half so that I can run a "W" tire. I am the same way, I would rather work on the car than dirve it. I usually have another guy drive on spray, it is a handful, and I am just not ready for that yet. #3300 LBS with a full tank and you in the seat ??
not ready for spray, c'mon! lol.. I'm a builder and driver through and through. Although as i said b4 i take more pride in building, but the drivings the icing on the cake

3300lbs by itself, approx. 3470 with me in it, got a prediction for me?

I will eventually backhalf my IROC, i have two jobs, one is a professional engine building facility (Jan-Cen Motorsports) and the other is a professional chassis shop (Vito Antonicelli Race Cars) So i'm screwed on both ends, i have to have a killer motor and a killer chassis setup lol.. Couple years it'll be backhalved, fronthalved, and fully caged
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