Im debating on putting a supercharger on my car, i have hypertech pistons(cheapies) 9.6:1 and i converted it to FI with an HSR, i know people run into the problem of not having a serpentine setup on there car but, dont they make a setup for older chevrolets that are centerfugal(spelling?) type aswell? i do not see why they dont, i mean, i know they do make one for a carbed setup but it has a box that bolts to the top of the carb. something like that would be nice for my car but im thinking of custom making brackets and such but what would i need for crank pulley's and and supercharger pulley's ect? would this be possible to find a supercharger off of a different car or maybe a used one and then making the brackets ect. also im not sure if there is any type of fluid that runs to and from the supercharger, im more familliar with turbochargers. but any advice would be nice. thanks guys!

 

I was just looking at doing a remote turbo but while surfing ebay I saw superchargers for a 3.8 from $50 to $100 so I thought why not just make custom brakets and new intake hoses for the filter and feed lines to the intake. Seams like it would work and be just as easy to do as a remote set-up, would it not?

 

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I was talking about customizing a 3.8 supercharger and mounting it like a paxton on the side of my 5.0.

 

Yup its been done.

look for saturn 5 (i'm not sure if there is a space in the name or not) he mounted two of them.

stay away from the GM version of the M90...use a ford Thunderbird version.

 

got any pics of this? isnt that supercharger like a 2 peice intake manifold type or is it a roots type setup?

 

http://www.toohighpsi.com/SCTC/sctc.htm

check out that link...its not saturn 5, but its where he got the idea.

 

Yep that's what I was thinking but only using one and getting it cheap. I think it could be done for under $500, but for some reason things always seam to end up cost more then I think.

 

most of those superchargers are going for about 200-300 bucks on e-bay i think , so lets say i got one, and did kind of what the thunderbird guy did and mount it to the side and make an inlet and outlet, exept my inlet will just have a filter on it(and not the TB on it), and inlet to the TB. is there any kind of coolant lines that run through these superchargers? if its going to be as simple as mounting it and running inlet and outlets ten i dont think ill have much of a problem, ill have my chip sent away to have done, and what about the belt system? what will i be able to get for my crank pulley? and will that 3.8 supercharger be sufficient? sorry for all the ?'s

 

No coolant lines for these. they are self contained oiled units.

One of these chargers, not ported, is probably not going to do you all that much good.

The one on silverback's brother's LTD is ported heavily, its in the 11s. pretty neat.

You could use the stock crank pulley off one of those T birds, modified... I believe this is what saturn 5 has done.

You could also try get your hands on a piggy-back pulley like they used on the older paxtons. This would be a bolt on and not a custom fab thing at all. I'm not sure where you could pick one up though.

Belt system you will have to make up yourself. I'd run the supercharger on its own serpentine belt. Saturn 5 tried to add his to the stock setup (i believe) and had belt slipping and throwing issues so I'd have it on its own system.

You can't send away and get a chip done. It just doens't work that way, there are too many variables, too many problems to run into. You'll have to run the $58 code or possibly some 808 stuff on a MAF system and learn to tune it yourself...or else you could try an FMU which really would be an easier solution if you didn't want to get into the computer side. Talk to 89jyturbo (not sure on the spelling) but he has done a lot of FMU tuning with both his cars.

 

yeah i read some of his posts sometimes. im already running mid 12's (now probably low 12's) so you doubt it will help me? im only running about 9.5 CR which is probably a fairly high amount. but im just looking for a better time next comming race season, maybe ill just get a NOS kit but that eventually runs out i think the FMU's are fairly expensive or are they not? i have an HSR on my car now but i just want something cheap, just maybe to help me into the 11's as well but i doubt something is going to turn out with this but id really like it to. and when i said send it away, i mean because, i wouldnt know 2 didly squats on what to do with the $ codes you put on the chip.

 

oh yeah there is also a 2002 SS camaro around here with some bolt ons and a remote mount turbocharger on it, and i want to spank him in the summer

 

I’m not sure how heavily ported it is, but the intake side is opened up about as much as you could comfortably go and almost every feature in it designed to limit noise has been cutout. FWIW, I’m betting that car would be in the 10’s in the low/mid 120’s if it wasn’t for the fact that the short block is on it’s last legs (it makes its own smoke screen out of the valve cover breather at idle, and it’s running deep 11’s at 119 like that).



I don’t know what he did, but I doubt that he just used one, they have a different bolt pattern. Just get an aftermarket blower crank pulley (the stacked deals that everyone uses) and be done with it, unless of course you don’t have room.



you can go both ways… the important things to remember is that you need a dynamic tensioner and as much pulley wrap on the blower pulley as possible.

 

anyone ever seen this beauty?

 

WTF!!!

 

Yup I've run two on a SBC..

Other than never really getting the belt live like I'd prefer, its a neat setup.

I'm changing it somewhat, back to a single ported M90, and swapping the whole thing into my F100.

The Malibu is going to be a christmas present for my nephew.

I made my own crank pulley using a stock TPI pulley with an outer pulley from a SC crank pulley. I sawed the SC crank pulley in half, just ahead of where the two pulleys are spot welded, split the inner from the outer and added it to the TPI pulley. They are really close to the same size and the SC blower pulley just fits inside the TPI pulley. I then just mig'd them together.

Not bad for a afternoon's work and $5 bucks.. lol Bob

 

heh, I did something similar using a 6 rib ford power steering pump pulley...

 

What did you use for intercoolers?

-- Joe

 

he didn't use them

 

I thought I saw some in one of his posts from a while back. Oh well.

-- Joe

 

could one put one of these things on a carb'd motor?

 

i reserve the right to take it back, but i'm pretty sure he didn't have any intercoolers.....