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Old Sep 12, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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N2O fuel Question.....(new to N2O)

Ok guys. I am new to the spray so bear with me. I just picked up a NX hitman kit from a guy here on TGO. Everything looks like it is in good condition.

I know how to install everyhing when the times comes exept I am a bit torn between 2 ideas I have for the fuel.

Should I get a fuel regulator that has a port for me to tap into, or can I just run another line from my fuel cell. The sump on the cell has 2 ports, so the motor is only using one. I have the other plugged.

Please fill me in if this idea of using the other port is bad. THX.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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NX's instructions say not to use the same regulator used for the motor. If you have a strong fuel pump and big supply line you could use a Y-block with 2 different regulators or do like you said and run a new line with a 2nd pump.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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that second pump can be pretty week right. I would use a quality part, but I don't need anything fancy right? And should I have that second pump hooked up to the arming switch? Cuz it is not needed ever unless I am using the N2O. Thanks for the reply.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:59 AM
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You could use a Holley Blue pump and regulator. They're a little over $100 new or you can find them used in good shape almost anywhere. I have a 3 gallon fuel cell mounted up front with a blue pump and regulator ...works great.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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with the failure rate holley pumps have, id be SURE to use a fuel pressure safety switch.. lol.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Is this really true??? I have $, should I just get a different pump? What is reliable? I don't plan on using the N2O very often at all. So the pump needs to be able to sit for a while if need be. I would rather spend more and save myself in the long run. Thx
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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using a safety switch is a no brainer. You gotta keep in mind that you'll only have the pump running for less than a minute at a time... It'll last forever. The blue pump I have is atleast 10 years old.

What size fuel lines do you have for the motor? and what pump? You could always go the single pump route with the y-block. I'd use 1/2" or bigger lines and a Mallory Comp 250 pump.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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I will have to get back to you on the pump. I am having the motor built now. It is going to be a 500 hp 383. Aluminum trickflow heads, all forged and internally balanced. full roller motor. with a 750 DP.

After thinking about it for a bit. i am just using the stock fuel lines that the TPI had. Are these gonna be too small??? The fuel cell I am running has 8 AN fittings on it I believe, maybe 6. I am at work and cannot check right now.

I am gonna be running a mech fuel pump. And maybe an electric for the N2O.

If I run nice big lines, is it easier to just use the Y. And I should not run it out the regulator??? how come?
Thanks for the help.
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Old Sep 13, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by 88IROC350TPI
NX's instructions say not to use the same regulator used for the motor. If you have a strong fuel pump and big supply line you could use a Y-block with 2 different regulators or do like you said and run a new line with a 2nd pump.
How exactly do you plan on running 1 pump and 2 regulators? Assuming that this thing is fuel injected (his car domain page shows a TPI engine) it has a bypass regulator (even if he’s swapping to a carb, as long as it’s got the stock pump in the tank he’s going to have to run a bypass regulator). Everything between the pump and the regulator will be at the bypass pressure. If you put a Y in there and 2 regulators, BOTH sides of the Y will be at whatever pressure the lower regulator is set to.

If you want to run 2 regulators, you essentially end up running 2 separate fuel systems, or a low pressure pump and an old school, carbureted type FPR.

If you plan on running the N2O at a different pressure then the engine’s fuel system you pretty much have to run 2 separate fuel systems. You could in theory get away with running a much lower pressure (less then 50% of the rest of the fuel system) regulator in the return line and use that to feed the N2O, but I don’t know that I would trust that.

If it was me, I’d either run the N2O off of the same fuel system that the rest of the engine runs off of with a good pump and a bypass regulator or I would run it completely separate, with a small fuel cell (race gas?), pump, regulator…
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 06:18 AM
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I am not gonna be running TPI. It is going to to be a carb. I have a fuel cell with 2 ports on the sump. 1 is going to feed the carb with a mech pump. The other port will be atached to an electric pump and go straight to the fuel solenoid. Weather it needs a regulator or not, I am not sure yet. Do you guys know? So essentially I will be running 2 seperate sytems. But instead of having a seperate fual cell, the 2 are just 1. Hope this made sence.

Any thoughts?
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Old Sep 19, 2005 | 11:27 PM
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My $.02… no matter what you do I would make sure that the N2O feed is regulated. If you can’t rely on a specific pressure at the solenoid it will be impossible to run safely and get a good, consistent tune.

If it was me I’d still run a single system with a >3 port carb pressure regulator, run one line to the N2O and one to the carb. Otherwise, 2 separate regulators will allow you to use fuel pressure to tune the N2O without messing up the carb, but leads to a much more complex system to keep working correctly.
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