Power Adders Getting a Supercharger or Turbocharger? Thinking about using Nitrous? All forced induction and N2O topics discussed here.

nitrous through weiand142

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 9, 2005 | 06:48 PM
  #1  
slapi01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: ct
Car: trans am
Engine: sbc350, afr 180cc head, comp full roller, xtrem 276,comp 1.6 roller rockers,weiand142
Transmission: tremec tko
Axle/Gears: 8.5 3.73 gear, moser 30 spline axles,eaton posi
nitrous through weiand142

i was just wondering if any of you guys here are spraying through a weiand 142 or =. i was thinking of a small 50 shot for kicks. i heard that spraying through a blower that you might notice it more and dont need as big of shot. any comments on this topic would be great
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:31 AM
  #2  
sleepybu's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: BC Canada
Car: 81Malibu
Engine: SBC 355
Transmission: TH400
it's been done
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:07 AM
  #3  
Angelis83LT's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
From: Spicer, MN
Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
of course it has been done.. , but ya.. it will help. what it basically does is reduce the heat in the blower so you actually get cold air into the cyls instead of hot air (blowers do generate a bit of heat) there are plates that you can get for them. like i kow off hand the 6-71 has a plate that sits under the twin carbs... supposed to work very nicely.
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 11:13 AM
  #4  
The Exorcist's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
so you're saying that you can use Nitrous Oxide to actually cool the blower instead of intercooling it or would using both seem like a reasonable idea to cool the blower.me personally i really don't like nitrous because it's merely fuel.all you do is bolt a bottle up,run a few lines in certian places and you have to change fogger nozzles to get more power.and as far as i know it's not really all that good for torque,top end yes but as far as i know torque is low with nos
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 03:40 PM
  #5  
sleepybu's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: BC Canada
Car: 81Malibu
Engine: SBC 355
Transmission: TH400
for that blower get a under carb kit http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Pages/...ventional6.htm

It will cool the aircharge some and contary to what The Exorcist said there will be a big spike in torque when you hit the botton. If you want to get fancy you could use alcohol for the fual enrchment for the nitruos. That would pull alot of heat out of the aircharge. You would need a sepert fual system and proper parts to handal the alcohol
Reply
Old Oct 10, 2005 | 04:24 PM
  #6  
Angelis83LT's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,121
Likes: 0
From: Spicer, MN
Car: '83 Berli, '84 Berli, '84 Z28 HO
Engine: L69, LG4, L69
Transmission: TH700-R4, TH700-R4, T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.08, 3.08, 3.73 Posi
yep. i agree with the last post.. pretty much cooling that charge will net you a bunch along with the extra nitrous to really make it go... lol
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 02:26 PM
  #7  
The Exorcist's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 4
Likes: 0
hey sorry i was wrong but usin alcahol and or nitromethene sounds like a good idea.but it's more expensive than gas.
Reply
Old Oct 12, 2005 | 08:07 PM
  #8  
sleepybu's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: BC Canada
Car: 81Malibu
Engine: SBC 355
Transmission: TH400
Originally posted by The Exorcist
... usin alcahol and or nitromethene sounds like a good idea.but it's more expensive than gas.
The amount of alcahol he would be using wouldn't cost much. As for nitromethene, i'd stay away from that stuff unless you know what your doing. Nitro is very expensive even is small amounts.
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 01:35 AM
  #9  
jocww's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,764
Likes: 0
From: cali
Car: 84z, 65 elcamino
Engine: l69 and a hyped up sbc in the camino
Transmission: t5 m21
Axle/Gears: 373s 411s
Originally posted by sleepybu
The amount of alcahol he would be using wouldn't cost much. As for nitromethene, i'd stay away from that stuff unless you know what your doing. Nitro is very expensive even is small amounts.
not to mention an early death to parts
Reply
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 10:47 AM
  #10  
Damon's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 13
From: Philly, PA
I've been thinking about doing that with the 142-blown motor in my Malibu. Just haven't gotten around to it yet. Plus I'm running hypereutectic pistons in it right now. They're living just fine but it wouldn't take much detonation to cause a problem with them. I'd probably put in forged slugs before I tried running two power-adders at once. Lots of chances to get the tune wrong somewhere, have a little detonation and blow the motor to smithereens.

I've done plenty of nitrous setups.

I'm now getting pretty familiar with roots blower setups.

That doesn't mean I know anything about what would happen if I ran them both at the same time. I have an IDEA. Probably, I'm in the ballpark. But the devil is always in the details. And there's always a learning curve.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 11:08 AM
  #11  
slapi01's Avatar
Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 75
Likes: 0
From: ct
Car: trans am
Engine: sbc350, afr 180cc head, comp full roller, xtrem 276,comp 1.6 roller rockers,weiand142
Transmission: tremec tko
Axle/Gears: 8.5 3.73 gear, moser 30 spline axles,eaton posi
thanks for the info, damon. this is a little off topic, but i have a demon 750 carb and am wondering how much to jet up for the weiand. i dyno'ed it last month and need to jet up the secondaries two sizes. should i also jet the pri's the same amount? with the blower on the new engine should i plan on jetting up a little more due to the boost. i know i have to lower the timing due to it beening higher for n/a. i also have coming a msd 6btm. any help would be great
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 08:49 AM
  #12  
Damon's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Sep 1999
Posts: 7,072
Likes: 13
From: Philly, PA
Just to be on the safe side I'd jet it up about 3 sizes on both primary and secondary side from where you are now N/A.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:36 AM
  #13  
ModifierRacing's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Nitrous gives you tons of low end torque. Nitrous cars have the hardest launches. And yes running nitrous through the blower will work great. Nitous works better than an intercooler since nitrous comes out around -127 degrees. It normally decreases intake charge 75 degrees.

Dan
Reply
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 05:06 PM
  #14  
TransAm12sec's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 2,076
Likes: 0
From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Car: 1982 Trans Am
Engine: LG4
Transmission: 200C
Axle/Gears: 3:73
20% Nitro Methane for R/C cars is 20 bucks a gallon.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
CarGuyDennis
Organized Drag Racing and Autocross
137
Dec 6, 2016 11:02 PM
anesthes
Power Adders
3
Sep 18, 2015 12:34 PM
NastyEngines
Group Purchases
4
Sep 8, 2015 10:14 AM
FlyinLow89
Auto Detailing and Appearance
12
Nov 12, 2001 02:35 AM
vortech305
Auto Detailing and Appearance
15
Mar 30, 2001 12:21 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:36 PM.