I have enjoyed running a S/C but after running a thermistor in the Air horn, I have found I would like to cool off the intake charge.. The only way to do this is to run an intercooler. I would like to use (AIR to AIR).. I know I need to run 3" pipes to and from the intercooler and have to weld all the pipes. I will send them out to have them chromed later as it makes the air go faster... LOL just kidding but it looks better. 2 basic questions are where can I get pipes that already mandrell prebent that I just have to weld and an intercooler.

 

I purchased all my intercooler components from ebay. Get the largest air to air intercooler that you will be able to fit in the car. Also, J-bends make it easy to cut and weld any angles you need for the plumbing. I recommend silicone couplers with T-clamps, even though they cost a little more than the rubber ones with the cheapo clamps. I had the rubber ones tear and the worm-style clamps strip out.

What iat's were you reading under normal driving and at wot? I checked out your cardomain .. very nice ride!

 

Here is how mine is setup.

Jay

 

go on ebay and find cxracing companies store. then find the size of intercooler you want and they even sell kits with intercooler, tbolt clamps, silicon coupler,and diff angle bent piping. its all really cheap from there you dont need to weld i used the kit and just used coupler with 1 extra coupler i had to pick up to complete it but had left over piping its a nice quality kit A LOT of people use them and ive never heard anything bad about them. if you get a 31x12x3 like me you may or may not need to do some cutting because im not sure how the camaro front end is setup. the intercooler i have i listed above cools the air as cool if not colder than outside temps. and if you plan to use 3" piping thats the size the kit uses if your battery is in stock location and route the piping through the fender holes youll most likely need to move the battery either towards the headlights and radiator or relocate it inside the car.

 

Jay_Rich what are the dimensions of your intercooler on your car?

 

31x12x3 Its the CXracing one from ebay, alot of guys use them. They look pretty nice too. My buddy has one on his cougar with no issues. Actually ended up gaining 1psi after installing it. Didnt drop or leak.

Jay

 

Jay wont your front gfx be flimsy because it has nothing to attach too?

 

You can not cool the intake charge cooler than the ambiant air temps with an A2A I/C. Those laws of thermodynamics / physics just seem to get in the way.
Aaron

 

BUT you could throw on one of those CO2 packages that apparently cool the intercooler by douching it with cold gas. I've never seen or heard of anyone using them but I know their being sold by EdelB and a few other companines. Maybe their crap, maybe their good....

 

i run the same intercooler set up on mine with no problems and now supporting over 600 rwhp on 7 lbs. i got my pipe off ebay too and it was a universal kit shipped out of cali and still got extra pipe after doing the car. comes with clapms and couplers but might drop the price if u dont need them. I have in the past used nos with a spray bar across the intercooler on a supra we had on the dyno at work and sh*t u not picked up 50rwhp by chilling it. local supra guys been doing that for years. I just look at it this way if i want 50 more hp turn up the boost 2 lbs. lol anyway that intercooler will work good for what u are looking to do.

 

Jay what kit did you buy from CXracing? I found the intercooler you have but I donno what kit you are using. Also did you have any pics of the finished piping?

 

universal pipe kit here and i had left overs.

 

i have a 29x12x3.5 intercooler from innovative turbo. i paid 1100 for it and would like to sell. its got 2.5" in the side 2.5" out the back or front depending on how you flip it and a vband flange on the out side for a bov. it take 600 + shipping. can post pics. it was for the t72 i had but got rid of in favor of a gtb t88. wich is too large for the interclooler.

 

that is gonna be a hard sell when u can get a larger one off ebay for 200 or less and lots of us use them with great results. So why spend 600 for one with a name on it that is smaller. Just my opinion.

 

Did you have any pics off how you ran the pipes?

 

cause mine will hold more than 20 lbs and with a lot less pressure drop. and that is good for more power

 

ok sorry my mistake i was just going by my hands but it was cold out so i couldnt tell all too well but it was very very cool not even warm.

and to the guy with less pressure drop and hold more boost these cxracing intercoolers have been proven to do the same for a lot less. mine has very very little pressure drop and can hold serious boost proven by many many people who run them.

 

yea ive seen a procharger intercooler explode at 14 lbs 3 times. sometimes you get lucky sometimes you dont. i just figured a true bar and plate front mount would be worth half of what i paid. but i might just keep it for my camaro build up with a 72mm. or 76mm.

 

It exploded or just made a crack in it somewhere? Did the core, end tank, or seam burst?
It must have been a bad manufacturing run to get 3 different intercoolers to fail.

 

it was the core 1 time end tank 2 times. was on a mustang with a d1sc. but they fied it each time so i guess thats good.

 

Ok finally got the front end gutted so I can trial fit the intercooler. It is tight but fits. I have an idea of how to run the piping on the drivers side. But, the passenger side of the car is going to be a trick. As far as I can figure if you bring the 3" pipes on the passenger side, Everything will hit the battery. Does anyone have any pictures of where they ran the piping for both sides of you intercooler. I bought a LT1 intake horn from trickflow so I can change the direction of airflow so it enters the intake from the passenger side. It is going to require a 4 inch spacer as it will hit the tensioner pulley. This is why I need some ideas and or pics.

 

Every one will probably say the same thing. Battery now where the spare tire was.what I did and works out good. I only have pics of my turbo set up. But if will help u do a search under my name and find the posts with what I have so far for my headers and should see a bunch of pics.

 

just a note; chroming the pipes will cost you some of the efficiency of the cooler. - You wouldn't believe how much those cheapy chrome "cold-air" kits actually heat the air charge.

 

Beside having to get a longer Battery Cable and a bracket in the back. Which apparently you have to remove the Spare Tire and pray like hell you never get a flat. Are there any disadvantages to doing this?

 

Check with your local track rules on the battery box. It is likely you need a sealed box with a vent to outside the passenger compartment.

You can pick up a $5 plug kit at Autozone and a $10 electric pump from Harbor Freight or Wal-Mart.

 

I finally have the battery relocated in the right quarter panel and it works great. This leave alot of room up front for the intercooler piping. I have cleaned out the nose area right now and still have to remove the front nose plastic so I can build the intercooler support and to drill the 3" holes for the pipes. Ideally when running piping I know you don't want to have too many bends. The Vortech S/C is designed to point toward the passenger side of the car. Can I run any 90 elbow's or should I reclock the S/C or will this cause any problems. I should have pictures available in a couple of days.

 

90 degree bends inherently have pressure loss, (charge having to hit a wall of tube, then continue). I'd think reclocking is the best choice. Prochargers are all I have experience with but you can reclock them all day long. Driver side, pass side, hell, you could probably point it down or up.

 

I will have to some research to see if Vortech can reclocked.

 

Do I need to come up there and do it for your? LOL. Just kidding man. What's up? I see your up to something again. I seem to have lost your number. PM your phone # so we can catch up.

 

Had time today to take the nose completely off and get the bracket built for the intercooler. Had to remodify the top bracket because of headlight clearance.. It looks good but notice that I have to modify the hood safety latch. Will post pics soon

 

These are the only way I could post these

 

where ya get teh intercooler...

 

This is a GODSPEED intercooler. I ordered directly from California. I had to tell them the year make model of the car, inlet and output sizes, cores requested. It took them about 2 weeks to make and an additional week to ship. It isn't one of the light weight jobs that will fall apart after two weeks of use. It's overall weight is about 40 lbs. I reclocked the S/C last night and ran into a slight snag. I have the V-3 Si-Trim and I have to notch the brackets to reclock the s/c where I want it. Then I will run the piping and finish the install.

 

how much for it...im in the market for one...

 

The I/C was just over $400 to include shipping

 

Link broken?

 

Go Here http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2423655

Click on Page 4, That is where they are located

 

I installed the Vortech Si-Trim @ 22+ lbs of boost with a Intercooler. Here is the link on cardomain of most the pictures to include the aluminum piping piping. Sorry, I couldn't post them here.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2423655/4

Let me know what you think

 

Ever take that thing down to Raceway Park to stretch it's legs....?

 

Nice

 

if someones thinking about an intercooler ever think about running a mk3 supra style FMIC? Its got both in and out on one side and its nice so to keep both charge pipes on one side and makes underhood look more clean.


looks coo too IMHO.........hey i used to own and drive a mk3 supra and used the fmic on a few different cars

 

i think rigging up some type of tmic and having a ram air hood kinda like the idea one the WRXs and STIs. Or try like a smic from a dsm and hide it down in the fender under the batt tray. i dont think the top mount would work tho it would be a cool idea.

 

I found that it was difficult enough to put an intercooler using a Vortech S/C and have enough room to put all the piping in. I did almost the same thing that ATI procharger users do. Beside doing a remote battery install I have more underhood room than before. I don't think anyone with either a single or dual turbo or S/C could ever achieve a clean underhood install. I would like to see more pics of additional installs though especially if they are intercooling

 

Here are 3 of the main files that I enclosed for the S/C with Intercooler

 

I still don't have all the electrical hooked up but this will give everyone a general idea of how I have accomplished this.

 

looks good, what kinda HP numbers is it putting down? It should be putting down some impressive numbers and dragstrip times.

 

IBM what pipes ae you running? is that the ebay universal kit? Looks great! Nice work

 

Heres my air to air intercooler 24" long 8" high 6" thick. It should flow 2730 cfm. 4" inlet and outlet.

 

I initially used pipes from CRX Racing but ended up buying 1/4 all aluminum straight pipes and sending them out to have them mandrel bend 5 90's 3 60's.