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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 06:54 AM
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AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

Anyone ever use an AP1AP2 turbo kit off ebay? Any pictures? I am thinkin of getting one of these kits and putting it on an LT1 in an 85 Firebird.
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

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Anyone ever use an AP1AP2 turbo kit off ebay? Any pictures? I am thinkin of getting one of these kits and putting it on an LT1 in an 85 Firebird.
They make a thirdgen turbo setup with LT1 flanges on it?
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Old Jun 4, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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I was told that the thirdgen headers would work on an LT1. And so my logic was that the turbo headers for a thirdgen would also work.
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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 03:19 PM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

SBC and LT1 exhaust patterns are the same, the only thing to worry about is the end bolt, some have one close in, some have one spaced out and some have both.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 07:30 AM
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I wouldn't trust his kit on my car the turbos don't list a brand so they probably are cheap china made glued together type.Pretty much everything to it don't give a brand and those manifolds look kinda thin to me.I would have a race shop locally build me a good turbo set up and not worry about it blowing apart.Would you trust a turbo from a guy who mostly sells ***** parts?
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 08:39 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

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SBC and LT1 exhaust patterns are the same, the only thing to worry about is the end bolt, some have one close in, some have one spaced out and some have both.
I thought I tried a set of SBC on an LT1 in the garage and the ports didn't line up quite right. From memory the LT1 ports were higher but the bolts lined up. Are you saying besides the bolt difference on the rear of the passenger side that the ports line up correctly?
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 08:41 AM
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I wouldn't trust his kit on my car the turbos don't list a brand so they probably are cheap china made glued together type.Pretty much everything to it don't give a brand and those manifolds look kinda thin to me.I would have a race shop locally build me a good turbo set up and not worry about it blowing apart.Would you trust a turbo from a guy who mostly sells ***** parts?
Ah, the old glue thing. What type of glue is it?
The flange is 1/2" mild steel. The tubes are 18-16ga stainless.
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Old Jul 7, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

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Ah, the old glue thing. What type of glue is it?
The flange is 1/2" mild steel. The tubes are 18-16ga stainless.
SUPERcharger-GLUE of course!

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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

Google glued together turbo you'll see a lot of forums and even some pictures of ebay turbos that have failed.
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Old Jul 8, 2010 | 09:19 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

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Google glued together turbo you'll see a lot of forums and even some pictures of ebay turbos that have failed.
I did the search and found the following:
1) a glue compressor housing take of one turbo repeatedly posted at different forums. The pic is of the same turbo.
2) a few saying that the bearings and/or seals failed quickly
3) lots of V8 engines going 12 sec ET or faster, some in the 13 sec range. Even found one twin setup in the 8 second range. Many of the setups have been running for 2 or more years.

Overall, it seems the quality has gotten better as expected for most manufacturing facilities. Heck, I even have access to an import GT45 turbo and the can state for a fact there is no glue on it. There could be something wrong internally, but I know externally it is fine.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

I have ran a few turbos besides blowing a seal or two i never had a housing fail on me or anything bad enough to hurt the engine.But i never ran a cheap ebay turbo i don't trust a off brand.Even cheap junkyard turbos are ok if you have it rebuilt by someone good.
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Old Jul 12, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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You can't "blow a seal" in a turbocharger. It is a piston ring. You mean you "had a leaking seal"? JY turbos are usually good deals and rival the price of a new ebay turbo. It is usually difficult to find one that matches perfectly to the application when installing on a V8 gas engine. Luckily the wasted gated turbos of today match better than older designs when installing on an average V8.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 11:08 PM
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Junk... you sound like me from a few years ago...
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 01:26 AM
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It was more then a leak the car smoked so bad you couldn't see it at a redlight.
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Old Jul 15, 2010 | 10:58 PM
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Re: AP1AP2 Turbo Kits

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It was more then a leak the car smoked so bad you couldn't see it at a redlight.
You probably over-reved your turbo and melted down the piston rings and blew the floor board rivets. Now you and the Mad Scientist and going to have to rebuild it.
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