Dropped the motor in this weekend, Pics inside!
Dropped the motor in this weekend, Pics inside!
Like the topic said, I finally put the motor in, and had a few pics to share with you guys. I hope to have it running in a few weeks, I'll post updates, and hopefully some dyno #'s soon.
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Thanks for the compliments guys. The motor is a stock block, with all forged internals, the block has been splayed with billet steel caps, and it has been half filled. Total 355ci. The heads are the Pontiac 867,that have ben fully ported by Indy Cylinder Heads. The intake is a Victor Super Junior, (to accomidate for the tall port heads) modified for fuel injection,topped off with an Accufab 90mm t/b, and 83 lb/hr injectors. I am using the Speed Pro efi to handle the engine management. This is all backed by a th400 with brake, a KTRE 12 bolt, And the SPOHN tq/arm.
The chasis is setup with a PA tubular k-member, a-arms, and coilovers. I chose the Koni SPA-1 struts. I am running Aerospace brakes, and have converted to manual brakes. I am also running a Flaming River manual steering box.
89procharged-the headers were a piece of cake. I put the motor in by myself, and it all seemed to fall into place. I did not need to cut the flange, or remove any tubes. And these are the 2"
I am however running a remote oil filter setup.
Sorry to ramble guys, this is the first time i have posted anything about this setup. If you have any questipns, feel free to ask.
The chasis is setup with a PA tubular k-member, a-arms, and coilovers. I chose the Koni SPA-1 struts. I am running Aerospace brakes, and have converted to manual brakes. I am also running a Flaming River manual steering box.
89procharged-the headers were a piece of cake. I put the motor in by myself, and it all seemed to fall into place. I did not need to cut the flange, or remove any tubes. And these are the 2"
I am however running a remote oil filter setup.Sorry to ramble guys, this is the first time i have posted anything about this setup. If you have any questipns, feel free to ask.
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you probably didn't have to because of the k-member. You have the same setup as i do as front suspension goes...how do you like the coil over setup?
i have yet to buy mine but my k-member and a-arms were built for them
Also, guido isn't going to be going that fast....he's too scarred too
you'll all be chasing me anyway once i get done
watch out for the little guys
you probably didn't have to because of the k-member. You have the same setup as i do as front suspension goes...how do you like the coil over setup?
i have yet to buy mine but my k-member and a-arms were built for them
Also, guido isn't going to be going that fast....he's too scarred too

you'll all be chasing me anyway once i get done

watch out for the little guys
prochargedroc, I was just messing arround with Guido, and I believe I am the little guy here. It is good to see that there are some third gen's out there that plan on putting up some big numbers this year. We have to show the 4th genners what's up!
As for the Coil over setup, I like it, but see myself bottoming out the shocks in the near future. There is onlt about 2" of travel before she will bottom out
. We'll have to see wat happens.
As for the Coil over setup, I like it, but see myself bottoming out the shocks in the near future. There is onlt about 2" of travel before she will bottom out
. We'll have to see wat happens. Supreme Member
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You will be faster than me Don but I will be trying to catch up. I plan on about 100 less HP than you.
We will show some of those 4th genners what is up though.
We will show some of those 4th genners what is up though.
Guido, it's all good
I'm just bustin your chops.
Tory, it won't be long now! When you going to get over here to see this thing in person? Oh, before i forget, don't forget to stop and pick up some beer's.
I'm taking donations now for the Dyno fund, please make checks payable to Don Barnett. Thanks in advance
I'm just bustin your chops.Tory, it won't be long now! When you going to get over here to see this thing in person? Oh, before i forget, don't forget to stop and pick up some beer's.
I'm taking donations now for the Dyno fund, please make checks payable to Don Barnett. Thanks in advance
Wow. I'm gonna be looking forward to seeing some dyno pulls/timeslips from that thing. Looking good...who says a race engine cant be beautiful.
Im pretty sure you wont have a problem with those 4th gens!
Im pretty sure you wont have a problem with those 4th gens!
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That looks fantastic!!
I'm just wondering what compression ratio you have with that motor and how much boost you plan on running.
Also, screw giving us a dyno sheet. I want to se videos of this beast.
Regards
Robert
I'm just wondering what compression ratio you have with that motor and how much boost you plan on running.
Also, screw giving us a dyno sheet. I want to se videos of this beast.

Regards
Robert
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Car: 86' Z28
Engine: 355
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*** D*MN!! i might just need to take a trip up to Newark in the near future to see that thing in person....
I can't wait to see some numbers for the beast.
Eric
I can't wait to see some numbers for the beast.
Eric
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Car: 1987 Camaro IROC Z28
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Axle/Gears: BW 3.27 (stock)
question on that setup for Blownbird and Guido:
how much taller is that intake with the elbow and the accufab than stock? it doesn't look like a stock hood would be even close to clearing.....how much extra room do you think is needed?
i'm gonna go a similar route with the same intake as guido, but i'll use the accel elbow, and a twin nostril 58mm TB. At least that's the plan for now... But i need to know how much extra underhood room i should plan on making.
Also, blownbird, are you gonna custom make the intake stuff yourself to go from the charger up to the TB?
how much taller is that intake with the elbow and the accufab than stock? it doesn't look like a stock hood would be even close to clearing.....how much extra room do you think is needed?
i'm gonna go a similar route with the same intake as guido, but i'll use the accel elbow, and a twin nostril 58mm TB. At least that's the plan for now... But i need to know how much extra underhood room i should plan on making.
Also, blownbird, are you gonna custom make the intake stuff yourself to go from the charger up to the TB?
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i havent fit a hood on my car yet but its going to need to be a tall hood. Probably at least a 4" to clear the top of the TB and the tubing that runs to it.
You will definately need at least a 4" cowl to clear the intake. I have a 5.5" cowl hood for mine (NMCA/NSCA legal). I will be making the custum discharge tubing soon. I am running a Spearco liquid to air intercooler, so it won't be a direct rout to the throttle body. I will post some pics as soon as the piping is complete.
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gotta ques BlownBird
kick *** man!!!! gotta ques. though-what is that mini air filter you got going on there on the left in both pics??? there are 2 of them right??? can they work on a 305 TPI engine???
thanks
91fbirdgta
305 TPI
Flowmaster 80 series
thanks
91fbirdgta
305 TPI
Flowmaster 80 series
Saturn5, sorry, but i cannot give the cam specs. I gotta keep something secret
91fbirdgta, the element you are seeing is a canister that is vented, it is used to trap oil form the vacuum pump that evac's the crankcase. I had used it before instead of a breather on the valve cover. It is a moroso piece, and can be found in Jegs or Summit.
91fbirdgta, the element you are seeing is a canister that is vented, it is used to trap oil form the vacuum pump that evac's the crankcase. I had used it before instead of a breather on the valve cover. It is a moroso piece, and can be found in Jegs or Summit.
Marty, slammed me for the last time. You are officially on my black list. I will no longer give you advice, or info for your POS pink bomb. Your b/s remarks are uncalled for, and make me mad as hell
I have warned you about this before, so when you hit the floor, you can't say i didn't warn ya. See Ya soon
what??? you are joking right? you know I luv you and your car, who else can give me the advice you do? Hell, if anything Matt teases you more than me.You give us crap too.And if you really, seriously think about it, I have NEVER said anything BAD about you or youre car. I actually speak very highly of you. I have to assume youre just kidding. Ill call you tomorrow.
Originally posted by BlownBird
Marty, slammed me for the last time. You are officially on my black list. I will no longer give you advice, or info for your POS pink bomb. Your b/s remarks are uncalled for, and make me mad as hell
I have warned you about this before, so when you hit the floor, you can't say i didn't warn ya. See Ya soon
Marty, slammed me for the last time. You are officially on my black list. I will no longer give you advice, or info for your POS pink bomb. Your b/s remarks are uncalled for, and make me mad as hell
I have warned you about this before, so when you hit the floor, you can't say i didn't warn ya. See Ya soon
you probably ARE going to need that parachute you know, you have to be legal for 150mph
Re: Are those custom headers?
Originally posted by The Man
If not what brand are they? What are the size primaries and collector? keep use informed
If not what brand are they? What are the size primaries and collector? keep use informed
check out their site, they have a part number on there.
i believe his are 2" primaries and 4" collectors, i could be wrong
i have the same ones except mine are 1 7/8" primaries and 3.5" collectors
www.hedman.com
info on heads?
Could you give me a idea about the flow #'s of your heads? Mid to low 300's on the intake, mid to low200's on the exhaust? I am thinking about changing heads. I really don't know that much about the 867 heads? also you did the bungs on the intake and builts the fuel rails? what size are they?
Thanks for any onfo.
Thanks for any onfo.
Re: thanks for the info
Originally posted by The Man
Do you think they will fit using the PA Kmember(stock type manual box and solid motor mounts)? How low do they hang down from the ground?
Do you think they will fit using the PA Kmember(stock type manual box and solid motor mounts)? How low do they hang down from the ground?
also you will need to run header adapters unless your heads have a spreadport exhaust pattern.
You will also need to run a ministarter and remote mount the oil filter
The collectors are slip on....here are a few more pics for you:
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Well, I know I am a little bit late on posting here, but that setup looks excellent. One of the nicest I have seen in a long time. Very Awesome!
Thanks for the compliments guys, 89Procharged is right, they are Headman Hustler headers. They are about $800.00 uncoated. My headers are the 2" primary with 3.5" colector.
As for flow #'s on the heads, well......I don't think so.
The intake was done by Second Street Speed http://www.secondstreetspeed.com/
As for flow #'s on the heads, well......I don't think so.
The intake was done by Second Street Speed http://www.secondstreetspeed.com/
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