i don't know if anyone else has noticed, but the theoretical and street racing board has turned into a flame board. every thread is the same thing, chevy vs ford, domestic vs import. i'm sure everyone is tired of reading every thread turn into the same argument.

it seems to be the place where all the new members hang out and just bash other cars.

it is a waste of bandwidth.

thanks

 

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


I enjoy bickering with those who are willing.

it is nice stress relief

 

The board with more mods than posters . They just need to find the right mod that can keep it in check, though I haven't read that board in a while.

 

hehe

funny thing is I argue just as much as anyone else on that board


if I was a mod though I would be lock down ****



I'm still bitter about that also mark


gave me the lock down

 

Oh? What's this? A call for stricter moderating? I'll write up some rules then, and no one better post anything off topic from now on...or else.

 

You think thats bad some other message boards I go to are nothing but a flame war Funny posting on there though, LOL.
I even have my own Camaro forum on one too

 

i say keep it!

 

The board is staying. It is good for the kind of board it is, and the mods are doing a good job. The only reason there is so many mods on there is because the 1's that never do anything were never taken off when new dudes that actually watch it were added. Alot of posts are locked because they have nothing to do with Third Gens. All people have to do on EVERY board is follow the rules, it's that simple.

 

if u dont like whats goin in the theoretical and street racing board then dont go in there. i my self luv reading about what i can and can not beat, and about some peoples wins and looses, its a great board with or with out the flams.

 

in theory, the board is a great idea. however, if you read a lot of the threads, they mostly turn into **** bashing, mustang bashing, and a lot of ignorant information is going around in there. i am just saying, it's always the same thing over and over again, since the board has been there.

for the most part, it's a bunch of guys that make themselves feel cool ganging up on something that has no defense. that's why i think it's a waste of space, and probably money.

 

Hey if you don't like it don't read it. I don't read the West Coast board but I don't call for its closing. I try to police things on that board as much as I can but it seems that the only other mod who pays attention to that board besides me is iroc22 and sometimes 5SIZ. Heck, mss hasn't even posted since last November! (I'm not trying to attack anyone here by the way, just making an observation.)
Reading every post is not always an option due to obvious time constraints, so if something is causing problems and no one has caught it yet click the report post to moderator link and report the post! That's what it's there for after all. If the moderators deem it bad then it will be closed or deleted. Simple as that.
I'm writing up a set of rules so hopefully they'll be up tomorrow.

 

Make sure you include on that list that the "Theoretical" means a "Who Would Win" question and the difference between a post that belongs on the Drag Racing and Autocross board and the Street Racing board. It seems like those are some of the most confused things.

 

That's at the top of the list actually
"This forum is for the discussion of Street Racing of Third Generation f-bodies and the Theoretical match up between a Thirdgen Camaro and another car ON THE STREET."

 

 

then put some mods on the board who will actually do their jobs, and lock stuff that gets out of hand, or off-topic.

simple as that.

 

If you don't like swimming, usually you stay out of the water.

The board is going to change as Inwo is in the process of creating a list of rules for the board that will be applied very shortly.

 

The Rules
If people don't follow them they won't be allowed to post on the street racing board. Simple enough. I don't see how people complain that the job is not being done well enough, did you take a look at how many locked posts there are over there lately?

 

good rules :lala:

they seem very fair and fine to me

 

Ahhh, but if the job was being done there wouldn't be a need for so many locked posts, lol j/k.

I mean just check out my board, people know to behave , now before one of you plans to post something dumb, lol, don't or you will be banned.

 

You mean you let other people than you and your 10000 monkeys writing your 20+ posts a day post on your board? Suprising! I see that flames never occur on your board, you are very high and mighty indeed captain!

 

no he doesn't hlet other post ****** on

I tried and he said to never come back and has locked all my post


and inwo I guess I can't post about my friends firebired eh?


oh well off to another board for the firebird racing content

 

in agreemant with inwo, sorry my sig is longer than five lines it just wouldnt fit with what i wanted in there. please dont yell at me. i tried.

 

When I read that earlier it sounded a lot harsher than when I read it again now so I guess I overreacted, I tried to delete it but I couldn't so... no hard feelings eh?
Anyway, the point of the rules are to make it so that there are a set of guidelines in place to eliminate any ambiguity where there may be some now. After dealing with several private messages where people inquired in less than pleasant terms as to why their message was edited and/or deleted to eliminate potential "flame wars" I decided to finally post this set of rules as adapted from the Appearance and Detailing section. It's not completely set in stone yet so if people want to argue a point that I made I'm in the chat room although most of the time I'm not actually at my computer so leave a message and stay for more than 2 minutes and i might show up to discuss it, or there are always private messages and email...
The street racing board is, by nature, a spot where many members go to argue different points about cars. An open discussion of automobiles is usually a good thing. The Ford vs Chevy or American vs Import issue will never be resolved and by nature issues such as that will arise on the board. Unfortunately the moderating team cannot be there 24/7, no matter how much we'd like to be, and some posts may run out of hand before they can be caught and locked. Provided there are no personal attacks or empty headed "ur car sux lol" "no urs dus" type posts a discussion with hard evidence can be a learning experience and applicable to a technical website such as this. However, if there are no facts to back up claims then the discussion is pointless and is usually locked if the thread does not die on its own as it should. The street racing board is a good addition to this website as it keeps the "I raced such and such" off the other boards as we all know they would end up there anyway, but in an effort to turn it from general chat into a more technically oriented third generation f-body board I am giving these rules as guidelines for posting and I will be doing my best to enforce them strictly for a few weeks to make sure that it gets back on track. Anyway I forgot where I was going with this post.

 

hey inwo I would like to report a post


I posted non-thirdgen content

it's about me playing with a porsche

might want to delete it or lock it.... though I think it would be nice to hear about non thirdgen races.... AS LONG AS IT IS STREET RACING though and not just pointless drible or bickering.


also just an idea... in your rules it camaro biased. you might want to leave the camaro section out of there since there are quite a few firechicken owners on the board.

comming down on all the import vs GM vs ford would be very nice.

and what are you talking about no mods can be on here 24/7????
granted I'm not a mod but I'm on here just about that often

 

I put Camaro instead of F-Body by accident a couple times but I fixed that. I was considering it to be any street racing content but I suppose things would have to be addressed in a case by case basis. This is a Thirdgen website so it should be oriented more towards thirdgens racing other cars. Don't take the rules the wrong way, it's meant as a guideline for the board and can be interpreted to make accomidations for interesting discussions provided they are street racing oriented. It would be nice to have a post where people can post links to street racing "busts" to keep people on top of things in their towns with no general chat allowed. We'll see how things develop. I'm in the chat room which can be found off the main page if anyone wants to discuss these rules with me further...

 

hey, looks like you made some great changes.

and to those who who say "oh if you don't like it then don't read it" sometimes there are some great discussions on the board. i'm just sick and tired of reading about how civics are garbage. if you guys seriously want to learn about hondas, go to www.superhonda.com. i post there and stick up for domestics a lot, but i don't post any bs. and it looks bad when guys here post bs and then they all roll around in it. that's why real import drivers/tuners hate us.

 

INWO, I'm glad you realized I was joking, that one reply I thought you were joking, until you apologized a few lines later, lol, funny how things on the net can be misinterpreted :lala:

 

amen to that

superhonda is a sweet board... they even will bash those who tlak the trash with there honda's


most of them seem cool only thing is it is a honda board... so domestic people comming over just to troll the boards isn't relaly looked that great upon.. so if you go over please be respectfull and give the domestic owners a good name

 

inwo is on lockdown rampage. go to it man! once again i am in full agreement here.

 

First off, let me just say...I know this is a site/board for 3rd Generation GM F-bodies...But, really...WHAT IN THE HELL...?

You know, I have tried my best to be a good member here. I really am VERY sorry that I don't fit into the group. I have never owned an F-body. But the reason that I came to this board is the fact that I am into PERFORMANCE. Usually, F-bodies are performance cars. Are we to just read about the same cars from the same decade over and over and over...that's not what I'm looking for. I am into the F-body thing, but the plan of owning one is far off. Sorry, nothing personal. Alot of things are in my sites now. I have previous engagements. Anyway, the point is...I came here to discuss/see/hereabout races. I am NOT into race cars. I am not JUST into v8s and muscle/sports/pony cars. So for me, just slap any old race down and I'll watch it or read about it. Most of the time, I will enjoy it to some extent. One thing I don't like is separation...most of the time.
Everyone forms their little groups and shuns other people. That is what has been happening-Can't you see that? People are getting killing-mad over what kind of vehicles people are driving. This board...and boards/groups like it DID NOT start this and DO NOT support it (right?) but it is not helping. This is becoming cold, harsh business. This is not business. This is pleasure, fun. Why does it have to be so serious? It's like a boot camp. It's like the world will end if someone mentions a race between an Olds and a Ford, for example. Why is it neccessary to close that? Because it isn't on topic? It is a street race. Oh, sorry...it doesn't involve a car like yours...Ask yourself...Really, stop reading, take a few minutes and think about this VERY deeply. Ask yourself, "Am I overreacting? Am I running this past time, fun board like a business of some sort? Should I be? What will happen if I leave that post open about the Chevelle?"
That's just an example. Look at the board. Look at it. Do you see something arong? Posts are being locked constantly. It's sick. If you want to save space--START DELETING. Start getting rid of these posts that ARE TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC. For example: "To That Board ****, Mark". This is off-topic even if it is a joke. No offense, Mark. I still have that sound file of your car around here somewhere.

If you find this totally off base and objectionable...well, I have nothing else to say. It really doesn't look like I have a choice. There's nothing I can say that won't be deleted/changed or maybe get me banned because...Heaven forbid...It's off-topic. You know, there is alot of serious crap going on in this world and some people get shut down and excluded and kicked out and shunned everyday...and they come to a place like this where they think they think that maybe they can enjoy themselves...NO, more of the same. I have put up with a little of that crap in my life and I know people that have had worse. The world doesn't need more of this even on so much smaller a level.


If you have said something against the set commandments above, I do apologize, but this is totally WRONG. I have been working alot recently and I don't have alot of time to read.

I'm not going to make any big show or anything, but I don't know if I will be posting again...Take care. All of you. No matter what you drive.

 

Why?? Simple.

Because 1st of all, why are we talking about a race that has nothing to do with Third Gens, on a THIRD GEN site?! And almost every single time posts like that get off topic or some BS starts because it is about some cars that another Member doesn't like and they'll say something about them, and........then comes the lock. I can understand how some might think it might be going a little too crazy. But it's for the better.

 

Maybe for you. Everyone else is alienated.

 

This is a third generation f-body TECH SITE. It doesn't have a general chat board, and the street racing board is not meant to be one. There are other boards with general chat if that's what you're looking for, both of which are listed at the bottom of the brief and easy to read rules document I posted. Brad posted something pretty similar to the gist of my rules as a board-wide announcement.
As you can see, my hands are tied. If you don't like it then I wish you well, I'm sorry that you had other expectations for the board but as long as it's third generation f-body related we'd love to have you stay and participate in the discussions.

There have been too many arguments and the same discussions have been occurring over and over and it was time to put a stop to it and get the board back to the Third Generation F-Body topic.

 

Rules, rules, rules...Is this simply an exercise in throwing your weight around? If your hands are tied, Inwo, then this is not directed at you. This is so childish. "We're only going to talk about what I what to talk about." That's what that says. It's a message board about cars. Get over this govening bull. It's a pasttime. It's a hobby. It's no so serious. Give people some freedom. There is NO freedom here.

I have a free yahoo group that is somewhat like a message board. All who wish to join, may. If you cause trouble, I will ban you. It is an auto site. You can talk and communicate about that on the board. I also have a music group. I'm thinking about starting another group. You can find me at
http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/drivetosurvive/

I would love to stay, but I have no place here. I have no choice in this matter. Everyone take care.



I quit.

 

It's simply an exercise in keeping the board on the topic of technical discussion of Third Generation F-Bodies. Look at the url, thirdgen.org not generalcarchat.org. General chat belongs on boards with general chat boards. This board is meant as a place where owners of third generation f-bodies can gather to discuss technical issues with their cars.
Put yourself in the place of the owner of a website. Lets say you run a website about Japanese cooking. You design your entire site around Japanese cooking and only Japanese cooking and put up a chat board as an afterthought as a service to your visitors. Your site gets popular but you want to keep it oriented toward Japanese cooking, but fans of Chinese cooking feel that since they're "both oriental' they should be allowed to post about their dinners they cooked as well on the Theoretical Recipe and Dinner board. They post about their food and how delicious it is and how it's superior to Japanese food due to its appeal to a broader audience which results in flames and arguments and whatnot. This results in the Theoretical Recipe and Dinner board causing longtime Japanese Cooks to leave in favor of the Chinese and the odd Korean and Vietnamese cooks who are happily posting about how their recipes are so much more tasty than the Japanese dinners that have been posted. So, in an effort to bring that board back on track would you not agree that rules must be clearly defined? The rules have been there, and a very brief version is on the user agreement you click agree to when you registered, the list of rules I posted simply reduce the amount of vaguaries that might have been present before they were posted.

 

No.