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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 09:27 PM
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Original Spare Temp tire kit

I bought this off ebay. My car doesn't currently have a spare at all and there is absolutely nothing in the spare tire compartment. I'm wondering if one of you nice fellas can help me determine what all else I need to complete this kit for it to sit in there and mount up correctly and also appear as stock as possible. Here is the one I bought and what all it included... What else do I need besides the "wedge" that the tire sits on?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-92-Camaro-Firebird-Spare-tire-Kit-/182059092245?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&autorefresh=true&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=w4zV0F54sKRgUM6z3b8PWGkbQCo%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 10:13 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2016 | 10:47 PM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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Perfect! Thanks allot! It appears the kit I bought is pretty much complete according to the diagram.

I dont see the little plastic/rubber wedge the tire sits on in the diagram. I see them for sale on ebay all the time. Did all cars receive those? Or does the spare not touch the bottom of the compartment when mounted up? Maybe there are different styles?
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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 06:16 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

The plastic wedge was for the aluminum 16" spare I believe as it was a shorter overall diameter before inflation.

Side note, I had no idea people bought this stuff. I'll keep them when I part cars from now on!!
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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 06:52 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

I recall a discussion about the spacer a few years back (?). However, I don't recall what the consensus was regarding its use.
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

Well, at least for 82-84 cars the spare pictured in the original post does NOT use any spacer. Both my 82 & 83 do not have one.

The auction you purchased looks complete far as I can remember!

This is the spare that used the spacer as it had to be inflated & was shorter beforehand.

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 07:17 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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Did all cars receive those?
My 85 didn't have one.

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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The plastic wedge was for the aluminum 16" spare I believe as it was a shorter overall diameter before inflation.

Side note, I had no idea people bought this stuff. I'll keep them when I part cars from now on!!
Please DO save the donut spares. A man can still buy a new tire for the spacer wheel on average of about $50 brand new. But finding an original with no dry rot and appears to have only a little use and still have the label inside the wheel along with the original jack with the label on it is priceless to some folks. And I'm not sure you can buy a new wheel for them...havent looked, because I wanted an original to be refinished.
Ive been looking forever. With the use of a heat gun to remove the label from the wheel and the label from the jack and a little spray paint, and throw all the mounting hardware in my buddies sandblaster, it will appear to be NOS when I'm done!
If you look on ebay, you cant hardly touch a temp tire for under 85-$100 and thats just for the tire and the wheel in decent shape.....never mind if it also comes with all the original mounting hardware. I was glad to even find it.
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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 08:27 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

On a side note, for those parting cars, just price them right and they will sell if they are decent. There is another set on ebay right now for $400 STUPID.
Average for a NICE one is $100. Throw in the mounting hardware and well, depending on how nice original shape its in will bring $125. Thats what Hawks wants for his on Ebay right now anyway....but it appeared to me to be missing a few items, and the jack is not what I remembered to be original so I passed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-92-CHEVY-...dVX-LP&vxp=mtr
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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 08:33 AM
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Thanks for the help and replies. I Definitely learned a few things!
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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I recall a discussion about the spacer a few years back (?). However, I don't recall what the consensus was regarding its use.
Any of the cars that has the inflatable spare steel or aluminum wheel got the spacer.
I think but not 100% sure only the aluminum PBR rear disks got the aluminum spare wheel. My '88 with iron calipers got a steel wheel (that will not clear LS1 rear disks)
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

Originally Posted by DonW
On a side note, for those parting cars, just price them right and they will sell if they are decent. There is another set on ebay right now for $400 STUPID.
Average for a NICE one is $100. Throw in the mounting hardware and well, depending on how nice original shape its in will bring $125. Thats what Hawks wants for his on Ebay right now anyway....but it appeared to me to be missing a few items, and the jack is not what I remembered to be original so I passed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/82-92-CHEVY-...dVX-LP&vxp=mtr
FWIW, the scissor jack is correct for model years 1987 and newer (give or take).

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Old Mar 26, 2016 | 04:37 PM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

Their was two different types of spares for the 3rd gens,1 was the Compact spare and the other was the Stowaway spare. The Stowaway(Inflatable) is the one that got the plastic spacer and also got the Blue air canister.
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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 04:28 PM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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FWIW, the scissor jack is correct for model years 1987 and newer (give or take).

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Old Mar 27, 2016 | 04:30 PM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

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Their was two different types of spares for the 3rd gens,1 was the Compact spare and the other was the Stowaway spare. The Stowaway(Inflatable) is the one that got the plastic spacer and also got the Blue air canister.
I didnt realize any of that until this thread. Definitely learned some things.
I just lucked up and found the set above that would be correct for my 83. Dumb blind luck though. And that its in nice shape is a wonder
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

There are at least three different jack/wrench sets, and as many wheel/tire combos. 82-86 use the long ratcheting jack with traditional tire iron. 87-91.5 use a screw drive scissor jack with a ratcheting lug wrench, lug wrench extension, etc. 91.5-92 use a screw drive scissor jack, and a fold out lug wrench that clips onto the jack.

There's a steel always inflated mini-spare, a steel collapsible spare, a 10-spoke aluminum collapsible spare, and the stamped aluminum collapsible spare (painted black) for PBR disc cars.

The plastic spacer won't fit at all with the PBR spare.

There are some other small differences, like the hold down screw for the inflator canister clamp is longer on some years, etc. But the minutia is best researched by the year of the car and studying.
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Old Mar 28, 2016 | 08:52 PM
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Here is my '89 set up, the dealer went nuts with the rust proofing goop. HTH







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Old Apr 7, 2016 | 10:49 AM
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Re: Original Spare Temp tire kit

Originally Posted by aaron7
Well, at least for 82-84 cars the spare pictured in the original post does NOT use any spacer. Both my 82 & 83 do not have one.

The auction you purchased looks complete far as I can remember!

This is the spare that used the spacer as it had to be inflated & was shorter beforehand.

I finally got the set a few days ago and got it all mounted up in the car. I'm missing two pieces from what I can tell from the manual. A retainer to hold the wrench to the jack, and the butterfly nut that tightens down on that same retainer.
If you part cars, I would certainly buy those two pieces from you! The retainer and wing nut are both pictured in your set-up above.
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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 06:12 AM
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Ok I'll check and see if I have those!
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Old Apr 8, 2016 | 06:47 AM
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Excellent. Thanks!
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