Tech / General Engine Is your car making a strange sound or won't start? Thinking of adding power with a new combination? Need other technical information or engine specific advice? Don't see another board for your problem? Post it here!
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: CARiD

What's this connector?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:05 AM
  #1  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
What's this connector?

Found this hanging, appears to be broken off. It's bottom of passenger side near rear motor mount on '89 5.7

Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:52 AM
  #2  
TTOP350's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,213
Likes: 1,140
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: What's this connector?

secondary fan switch harness. It goes up between cyl 6 and 8 in the head.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 08:11 AM
  #3  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by TTOP350
secondary fan switch harness. It goes up between cyl 6 and 8 in the head.
Thanks, going to try and track that part number down.

Last edited by rottweiler68; Jul 24, 2017 at 08:16 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 10:15 AM
  #4  
RunawayRadio's Avatar
Member
10 Year Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Posts: 143
Likes: 2
From: Montreal, QC, Canada
Car: 1987 GTA, Digital Dash
Engine: L98 TPI
Transmission: 1994 LT1 T56
Axle/Gears: 9 bolt, 3.27
Re: What's this connector?

Here you go:

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...251414&jsn=506
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 10:17 AM
  #5  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by RunawayRadio
Awesome, thanks so much! Is this the same part number used for the knock sensor connector as well? I see it referenced as such elsewhere.

Last edited by rottweiler68; Jul 24, 2017 at 10:21 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 10:27 AM
  #6  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

And another dumb follow up question, sorry new to much of this, what is the connector to the right of the dangling fan harness wire that is connected properly in the pic?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 10:45 AM
  #7  
Ghettobird52's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 5
From: Modesto, California
Car: 88 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO5 5.7 TBI/Ebl Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 stock rear end
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by TTOP350
secondary fan switch harness. It goes up between cyl 6 and 8 in the head.
if thats the 'secondary fan switch' whats the first....?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 11:00 AM
  #8  
ploegi's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 1,556
Likes: 28
From: Adrian, Mi, USA
Car: 1988 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 5.7 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by rottweiler68
And another dumb follow up question, sorry new to much of this, what is the connector to the right of the dangling fan harness wire that is connected properly in the pic?
Knock sensor.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 11:01 AM
  #9  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by ploegi
Knock sensor.
Thank you!
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 11:14 AM
  #10  
TTOP350's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,213
Likes: 1,140
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
if thats the 'secondary fan switch' whats the first....?
ECM runs the primary fan from the cts info.
Since this is a 89 350 car it will have 2 fans, this switch (and A/C psi switch) run the secondary fan.
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 11:19 AM
  #11  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

I already have the 180* thermostat in so was thinking about going with the Hypertech 4028 switch to run a bit cooler. Does sound correct?
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 11:23 AM
  #12  
TTOP350's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,213
Likes: 1,140
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by rottweiler68
I already have the 180* thermostat in so was thinking about going with the Hypertech 4028 switch to run a bit cooler. Does sound correct?
This may work as well
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...itch-part.html
Reply
Old Jul 24, 2017 | 07:36 PM
  #13  
Ghettobird52's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 5
From: Modesto, California
Car: 88 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO5 5.7 TBI/Ebl Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 stock rear end
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by TTOP350
ECM runs the primary fan from the cts info.
Since this is a 89 350 car it will have 2 fans, this switch (and A/C psi switch) run the secondary fan.
Ok so on the single fan setups they just work off the coolant head switch right?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:03 AM
  #14  
TTOP350's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,213
Likes: 1,140
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
Ok so on the single fan setups they just work off the coolant head switch right?
I'm not well versed in single fan setups
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 06:58 PM
  #15  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Does anyone have an actual pic of this sensor location that would be the same the '89 350? I though it was between plugs 6 and 8, but can not find it for the life of me. I have found the knock sensor from below, but should I be able to see the this fan sensor as well from the top or bottom?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 07:06 PM
  #16  
Ghettobird52's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 5
From: Modesto, California
Car: 88 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO5 5.7 TBI/Ebl Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 stock rear end
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by rottweiler68
Does anyone have an actual pic of this sensor location that would be the same the '89 350? I though it was between plugs 6 and 8, but can not find it for the life of me. I have found the knock sensor from below, but should I be able to see the this fan sensor as well from the top or bottom?
If you still have the complete ac box and heater hosing along with smog equipment all intact, it can be pretty hard to see it from up top. But its right there on the head between 6&8. The electrical connector might be snapped throwing you off.

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cool...an-switch.html see thread for pic.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 07:08 PM
  #17  
Tuned Performance's Avatar
Sponsor
20 Year Member
Community Builder
Community Influencer
Community Favorite
iTrader: (94)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 16,734
Likes: 993
From: Mile High Country !!!
Car: 1967 Camaro, 91 z28
Engine: Lb9
Transmission: M20
Axle/Gears: J65 pbr on stock posi 10bolt
Re: What's this connector?

Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 07:41 PM
  #18  
henryd3's Avatar
Supreme Member
15 Year Member
iTrader: (128)
 
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 1,821
Likes: 40
From: Central California
Car: 92 Camaro RS
Engine: LO3
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: stock
Re: What's this connector?

It's in the same spot(with the head turned around for the other side) as the sensor for the temp gauge on the driver side
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:09 PM
  #19  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by henryd3
It's in the same spot(with the head turned around for the other side) as the sensor for the temp gauge on the driver side
Crazy! I must be missing something it simply as Ghettobird alluded too because of being broken off. But I thought this secondary was at the rear of the head by 6 & 8, my gauge temp sensor is at the front of the drivers side, between 1 and 3.

Last edited by rottweiler68; Jul 25, 2017 at 08:22 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:36 PM
  #20  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

I also found posts with some accessing it from the underside. "This little switch is located in a hard-to-reach location on this Third-Generation Camaro. In other vehicles it may be easily accessible. The sensor is located on the passenger side of the engine, just below the heat shield connected to the block."

Time for a break

Last edited by rottweiler68; Jul 25, 2017 at 08:48 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:48 PM
  #21  
Ghettobird52's Avatar
Supreme Member
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 5
From: Modesto, California
Car: 88 Firebird Formula
Engine: LO5 5.7 TBI/Ebl Flash
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 stock rear end
Re: What's this connector?

ok wow yeah that looks like the location, but that looks like someone just plugged it?
Reply
Old Jul 25, 2017 | 08:49 PM
  #22  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by Ghettobird52
ok wow yeah that looks like the location, but that looks like someone just plugged it?
Sorry was editing that post with picture, but yes you are right, they probably got tired of losing coolant and plugged it. That's why i'm stumped lol.


Reply
Old Jul 26, 2017 | 08:59 AM
  #23  
TTOP350's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 12,213
Likes: 1,140
From: Il
Car: 1989-92 FORMULA350 305 92 Hawkclone
Engine: 4++,350 & 305 CIs
Transmission: 700R4 4800 vig 18th700R4 t56 ZF6 T5
Axle/Gears: 3.70 9"ford alum chunk,dana44,9bolt
Re: What's this connector?

Looks like factory it could be factory paint down in the plug, your car does have dual fans right? Or its just been plugged due to leak, breakage or during a rebuild. Either way, if you have dual fans, put the switch in that spot.
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2017 | 09:16 AM
  #24  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Originally Posted by TTOP350
Looks like factory it could be factory paint down in the plug, your car does have dual fans right? Or its just been plugged due to leak, breakage or during a rebuild. Either way, if you have dual fans, put the switch in that spot.
Yes I do have the dual fans so will attempt to unscrew whatever it is that is in there.
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2017 | 09:23 AM
  #25  
rottweiler68's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2017
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
From: Illinois
Car: '89 Iroc
Engine: 383 TPI
Transmission: Built 700R4
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt - 3.45
Re: What's this connector?

Is there a simple way to tap the second fan into the first (not sure if that's the term) but so that the second fan would run whenever the primary ran? Can't hurt to have this type of setup can it?
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:29 AM.