Car #6 is on ebay

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1991-Pontia...JajfMp&vxp=mtr



Compnine report:

VIN # 1G2FS2388ML249429




Found 47,612 vehicles matching that year and model in our database.
RPO Description Matches
UB3 CLUSTER,INSTRUMENT(OIL,COOLANT TEMPERATURE,VOLTMETER,TACHOMETER,TRIP ODOMETER)(USED WITH DELUXE SPORT PKG W32) GA(UB3) 47,612
UM6 RADIO,AM/FM STEREO,CASSETTE,ETR,INCLUDES CLOCK STEREO CASSETTE(UM6) 17,942
UQ1 RADIO,PROVISIONS FOR STEREO STEREO RDO PR0VISIONS(UQ1) 47,612
U62 SPEAKER SYSTEM,4,DUAL COAX FRONT,DUAL COAX PACKAGE SHELF 4 SPKR SYS(U62) 47,612
VAN PLANT CODE VAN NUYS, CA, CPC VAN NUYS,CA PLANT CODE(VAN) 47,612
VK3 LICENSE PLATE,FRONT MOUNTING PACKAGE FRT LIC PLT MTG PKG(VK3) 37,477
V73 VEHICLE STATEMENT - US/CANADA US/CANADA VEHICLE STATEMENT(V73) 44,388
WS6 PERFORMANCE PACKAGE,SPECIAL(MERCHANDISING OPTION) SPECIAL PERFORMANCE PKG(WS6) 10,360
W66 FORMULA OPTION(MERCHANDISING OPTION) FORMULA(W66) 5,464
ZV1 STATEMENT OF ORIGIN - MANUFACTURE 3,534
1LE PERFORMANCE PACKAGE COMPONENTS PERF PKG(1LE) 106
1SB PACKAGE-OPTION 02 (1SB) 19,280
1SZ PACKAGE OPTION- (1SZ) 32,287
19P WHEEL COLOR,BLACK (19P) 82
6ZW SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT LH SUSP(6ZW) 7,587
7ZW SPRING COMPTR SELECT FRT RH SUSP(7ZW) 7,587
8NL SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR LH SUSP(8NL) 11,102
81Q MOLDING COLOR - BRIGHT RED (81Q) 12,546
81U EXTERIOR COLOR,PRIMARY,BRIGHT RED (81U) 12,730
82C TRIM COMBINATION,CLOTH,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82C) 31,438
82I INTERIOR TRIM,MEDIUM DARK GRAY (82I) 31,861
829 SEAT BELT COLOR - MED DK GRAY (829) 31,861
9NL SPRING-COMPTR SELECT RR RH SUSP(9NL) 11,102
AAA Unknown 46,052
AH3 ADJUSTER,SEAT,4-WAY MANUAL,DRIVER 4-WAY MAN D/SEAT ADJR(AH3) 13,751
AJ3 RESTRAINT SYSTEM,FRONT SEAT INFLATABLE DRIVER SI INFL RST SYS(AJ3) 47,612
AR9 SEAT,FRONT BUCKET,DRIVER,PASSENGER,MANUAL RECLINING(EUROPEAN STYLE) MAN RECL FRT BKT ST,DELUXE(AR9) 44,743
AU3 LOCK,SIDE DOOR,ELECTRIC ELEC S/D LK(AU3) 41,671
A31 WINDOW,ELECTRIC OPERATED,SIDE ELEC SI WDO(A31) 41,671
BC8 ORNAMENTATION,INTERIOR,FRONT DOOR MAP POCKET RH AND LH DR MAP PKT(BC8) 41,671
B2L ENGINE PACKAGE-V8 5.7L, PFI ENG PKG(B2L) 3,489
B4U SPORTS PERFORMANCE PACKAGE SPORT PERFORMANCE PKG(B4U) 9
B84 ORNAMENTATION,EXTERIOR,BODY SIDE MOLDING(USED WITH APPEARANCE PACKAGE Z12) BODY SI MLDG(B84) 46,790
C49 DEFOGGER,REAR WINDOW,ELECTRIC ELEC RR WDO DEFG(C49) 33,076
C60 AIR CONDITIONER,FRONT,MANUAL CONTROLS A/C MAN CONT(C60) 46,946
DC4 MIRROR,INSIDE,REARVIEW TILT,DUAL READING LAMP I/S DUAL READING LP RR VIEW MIR(DC4) 46,761
D35 MIRROR,O/S LH REM RH DIRECT CTL,PAINTED PAINTED O/S MIR(D35) 17,468
D5X GEAR-SPEEDO DRIVEN (D5X) 3,489
D8I SENSOR-VEH SPD (10456089) (D8I) 2,268
D81 SPOILER,REAR,AERO WING RR AERO WING SPLR(D81) 13,733
E5Z ADAPTER - SPEEDO - DELETE 47,612
E9Z KEY - SPEEDO - DELETE 47,612
FE2 SUSPENSION SYSTEM,RIDE AND HANDLING(USED WITH PERFORMANCE PACKAGE WS6) RIDE & HANDLING SUSP(FE2) 10,360
GU5 AXLE,REAR,3.23 RATIO 3.23R(GU5) 26,461
G80 AXLE,REAR,POSITRACTION,LIMITED SLIP POSITRACTION L/SLIP R/AXL(G80) 9,171
G92 AXLE,REAR,PERFORMANCE RATIO(MERCHANDISING OPTION) PERFORMANCE R/AXL RATIO(G92) 106
IPC TRIM,INTERIOR DESIGN (IPC) 44,743
JG1 SHAFT,PROPELLER(ALUMINUM) AL PROP SHF(JG1) 4,548
J65 BRAKE SYSTEM,POWER,FRONT AND REAR DISC 4-WHL DISC BRK(J65) 3,474
KC4 COOLING SYSTEM,ENGINE OIL(EXPORT-IRAQ) KC4(EXPORT IRAQ) 4,569
K68 GENERATOR,105 AMPERE 105 AMP(K68) 8,835
L98 ENGINE, 5.7L, (5.7-8) 350 CID, V8, TPI 5.7-8(L98) 3,489
MD8 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC 4-SPEED(THM700R4/4L60) 4-SPD A/TRANS(MD8) 43,399
MX0 TRANSMISSION,AUTOMATIC,OVERDRIVE(MERCHANDISING OPTION)(MD8) A/TRANS PROVISIONS(MX0) 43,399
NA5 EMISSION SYSTEM,FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS FEDERAL EMIS(NA5) 43,196
N10 EXHAUST SYSTEM,DUAL(USED WITH TOURING YP6) D/EXH(N10) 4,569
N36 STEERING WHEEL,SPORT-4 SPOKES SPORT STRG WHL(N36) 41,430
N64 WHEEL AND TIRE,SPACE SAVER SPARE(ALUMINUM) STOWAWAY SPARE(ALUM)(N64) 7,327
PW7 WHEEL,16X8,STYLED(ALUMINUM)(SUPERLIGHT) STYLED AL WHL(PW7) 6,264
QLC TIRE,ALL P245/50ZR16/N BL R/PE ST TL HWY TIRE(QLC) 10,360
R6P CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO. 15 3,005
R9Z CONTROL - SALES ITEM NO.100 4,051

 

You know I would, but $99,995 is a little over my daily ATM withdrawl limit.

 

Well if we all use that "its only original once" mentality that sagging headliner would be a big deduction in price

 

So lets start the argument - what is the "fair" market value of this car??

 

Well $70k USD will buy you a 1 of 11 1991 competition firehawk with 1674 on the clock, so I guess this guy is a little out of line IMO.

http://www.legendarymotorcar.com/inv...hawk-1581.aspx

 

Part of the deal is you get a custom license plate with the car.

DUMBASS

 

Except if you live in Illinois. Apparently somebody already has it.

 

I couldn’t see spending that on one of those.. I’d say the realistic value would be $45k. (i.e. if you needed to sell it in less than 6 months)

A GNX goes for $100k and you can sell it pretty easy.. I don’t think these have the following that a GNX has..

I always wanted a 1995 Firehawk with the ROH wheels.. those were sweet..

Any rare, low mile car can fetch insane prices if you get the right collector with the right bank account, but that’s not realistically what the market will bring..

Just my opinion.. sweet car!

 

Don't be a sucker. Lowball him at $95,000.

 

I can only scrape together $99,994.99. Guess it just wasn't meant to be.

 

I've always wanted one of them, even from new. #3, the one that Legendary had is the one to own, aside from that one, any of the comp models, the 1 convertible or the 1 t-top.

I don't put the same value on the base models.

 

I think he is a bit high on the price. 50-70k is more realistic to me.

 

I saw that last week. He's on something good to think he's going to get $100,000 for that car. It's not even one of the highly optioned ones

 

I will be the odd guy out here - I see that as a $50K car MAX - he is orbiting the planet Triton at $100K - pigs will fly and hell will freeze over before we see that sales price on that car in the next few years - you gotta wonder where people come up with these prices, I mean why waste the time typing up the ad?

 

The one that Legendary has was on the show. Peters kid picked it up in a trade and wasn't sure what it was.

 

Damn, at least fix the headliner.

 

Right Vince, I would offer him $90,000 for that defect

 

As much as I really appreciate the Firehawk as a whole, I really can't justify the cost. Not when I (or anyone) can build a thirdgen with similar looks and performance for considerably less. True, the Firehawk will always command more collector money, but if I had a car like a Firehawk sitting around, I'd want to drive the stinkin' wheels off of it. What's the point of owning something like that and keeping it hidden away in climate controlled storage under a car cover, or sitting in a museum.

 

Looks familiar.... Back when headliner was still up

 

Does He Think He's Going To Attract More Buyers Listing It For $99,995.00 Than $100,000.00

 

Very cool car. If he was asking half that I would say he is on the high end but not too crazy. 100k is really something. Very Very cool car though. Glad he's asking 100k cause I can just completely ignore it at that price point.

 

Louis

 

I think am going to take out a second mortgage and get it.

 

Lets be realistic here. This is muscle car pricing on a pos third gen (it's all right, I love my pos third gen so screw the muscle car snobs) so the crack pipe is strong on this. To the right guy, with cash that flows like Donald Trump, I suppose...

 

Probably so he doesn't hit the fee's for the 100k tier of eBay lol.

 

I see, *maybe* $30k-$35k, no more.

 

They were overpriced when they were new and if you recall, not popular because of it. Sure there's a guy out there that's gotta have one but it ain't nobody in his right mind gonna ante up that kind of money. It might be worth original sicker.

 

 

I never noticed before but is that the stock console on Firehawks ?

 

Yes

 

Would never pay that much for that car. As said, they really don't have as big of a following as say the Buick GNX's, or even the early Nissan Skyline's, which some guys would cut off their limbs for. So what happens when you want to resell it. Guys on the Buick boards don't even care for the TTA's anymore either, and hardly any, if any, TTA owners even post on this website. I don't think anyone outside of this website even knows what a TTA is, let alone what an SLP Firehawk is. Definitely to the seller's advantage, as he should revise that ebay description and mention the ultra rare, and highly coveted @ss cheeks headliner...

- Rob

 

He's fishing...can you blame him?

Sometimes it's worth throwing up a Hail Mary pass to see what you come down with.

I would rather spend $20-30K building a car with easily obtainable parts, and drive the snot out of it. I spent less than half of that turning my Z28 into a fun/fast car I could enjoy.

 

I'll buy every single one you can get me in that price range.

 

I know. Just sharing where I personally value the fire hawk.

 

Yeah.. I’d say that’s a good quick sell price.. I’d ponder it at $30k

 

WTF intake plenum is that?

 

T-Ram

 

That must be super crazy hard to find.

 

It's been relisted at only $89,995.00. So which one of you two guys is going to win it???

 

Depends upon where you are standing at the time - one of the guys on this thread has 3 or 4 of them within spitting distance.

 

Don't remind me. Back in 06 I missed a chance at a 87 GTA 350 parts car that was in SAD shape 200K miles, But had lingenfilter t-ram intake

I was BOILING for weeks




Guy was only asking $500 for the whole car



Dave

 

lingenfelter did the super ram intake

SLP did the T-ram intake

 

Thanks Tony lol My memory was a little fuzzy on those and NOT a common part that ever comes through my hands lol


Dave

 

If it weren't a Firehawk, what would it be worth? $15k? $20k?
Anyways, adding a premium for the "parts", that's how I came up with $30-$35k, but not 3 xs that. Just don't see it, regardless of the RPO.

 

I have to admit, I know very little about Firehawks, and my eyes may be deceiving me but, isn't that a manual transmission I'm seeing, yet the SPI indicates auto?

 

You are correct - all of the 91/2 Firehawks got the ZF 6 Speed from the Corvette line installed and being that they were originally built as 350 L98 cars they were all delivered to SLP with Automatics. SLP would pull the entire drive line and they were available just by calling them - I knew guys who would buy sets of wheels/tires from them for $400 rather than buy new tires for more.

It took years for SLP to sell off the inventory of new (used) parts they took off these cars.

 

ok, interesting idea about replacing the trans. Why didn't GM think of that with the L98 laziness i guess,

 

 

Three reasons come to mind:

1. Emissions certification for an L98 w/ a ZF6 Speed (each configuration must go through the EPA process of certification for sale)
2. ZF6 was introduced way too late in the production run for proper integration and profits from engineering, etc. (see #1)
3. If they used the console from SLP, it looked unfinished and cheap compared to the rest of the car, even on the base Firebird interior. It wasn't until the proposed Anniversary Edition (where two prototypes were made), the console looked finished. That was in 1992. Too late.

 

Thanks for sharing that video TTop350.. I had no idea how much more modified the 91-92 was compared to the Firehawk that followed.. Had no Idea you you could even get a roll cage! That was pricey for back then but what car could you get from a dealer that could keep up with that!

I’m surprised after seeing that those cars don’t have a following like a GNX.