I was very sorry to hear of Bob's passing. I bought the EBL set up from him and even went to his house once and he helped me with some tuning.
I went with the EBL because it used the same ecm, same wiring harness, was self learning, etc.... it seemed to keep the car 'stock' yet make it tunable without chip burning, etc... or going complete aftermarket.
For now it is working fine; but what do I do when it screws up. Is there a similar set up or product out there anywhere?? I have looked but haven't found anything; hoping someone else on here might have. Thanks.

 

If it ever messes up I’d probably reach out to moates.net see if they could work their magic. I think @Buccaneer was trying to see about copy rights. It would be cool if someone brought back the P4 730 version.

 

Hey guys, I just got back from a 14 day trip to Dynamic EFi in PA and another business trip to Ohio about the Renegade manifold, which was very promising. Both were productive and I'm hopeful at this point that both projects will move forward, but we shall see how it all pans out. At Dynamic EFI, there were two other people there and one was a former dealer for Dynamic EFI, Scott from Iowa. He and another person Bob, were VERY helpful on sorting through all the hardware, chips ECMs etc.... Without those guys I would have been a bit lost since there was so much to go through. Scott did mention or should I say asked, if I planned on doing any Port MOD upgrades or the SFI 6. I feel pretty confident at this point if all goes well that I will not be doing the SFI 6 stuff since Bob was not doing that anymore as well. Port MOD is possible and CFI for sure.

Everything is still in the air about Dynamic EFI and I'm waiting to hear back from them hopefully next week on some progress on their end. Hope this helps.

 

Any chance the 730 p4 will make a comeback?

 

The 7730 would be something a little down the road I think. If I remember right, there was at least a half a pallet of 7730 ECMs that Bob had stashed away in the corner. I would have to ask Scott about those to be sure.

 

If anyone is interested, we are getting closer to finishing the deal on Dynamic EFI and the EBL. We found the source code files for the WUD software and the files for the EBL pcb. Still looking for the firmware source code file.

 

Fantastic news

 

That’s great, will be interesting what you have to offer in the near future.

 

I hope to have good news soon, but we shall see,

 

I've been running mine for years- I wouldn't worry about it.

 

worry about what ?

 

DITTO! I've been running an EBL for 12 years or so, works great.

 

really good news that someone might be able to keep the project going.

not that I really need anything but was alway a joy to read about. I feel like I wouldn't mind donating money to the program if I would help anything.

 

I'm trying to make this happen, but we shall see how it all pans out and hoping for the best for everybody. I'm not asking for any donations, but if Elon Musk wants to make a donation of a sizable amount to get this all rolling tomorrow, I WILL NOT turn him down...Jus sayin'.

 

I hope the new terrif doesn’t hugely effect your putting together the ebl boards.

 

Thanks, but I don't see it being a huge impact at this point, but who knows. Things could change tomorrow in this "current world of turmoil".

 

Just a little update. I'm currently waiting to hear back from Dynamic EFI on a date that we can discuss and hopefully close the deal on the Dynamic EFI acquisition.

 

thanks for the update.... hopefully a deal can be struck and you can continue the legacy of this great option

 

As long as Ebl flash2 is available in 6 cylinder applications I will be very happy. Probably buy 2 or 3 as they come available. Thank you for working to make this happen. The EBL is just the best option.

 

Already working on a plan B if the EBL goes sideways. Hopefully everything will go well. Meanwhile, the Renegade project is moving along and since I can't make the conference call with the foundry today, I have one scheduled for next week. I'm hoping to be doing test pours soon.

 

is there a thread about whatever the renegade project is?

 

Actually, there may be a Renegade thread here somewhere, but there is plenty of info on the site. PM sent.

 

Any updates?

 

Looking at the Xfire performance blog, looks like Dynamic EFI has been purchased. Great news. I think is an amazing platform and I am sure Rbob would have wanted to see it continue to be supported and enjoyed for years to come.

 

My EBL P4 has worked great for the past ten years so I'm excited to see the EBL live on. Its by far the easiest tuning solution for our cars. Thanks Buccaneer for putting in the work to acquire this key piece of technology!

This excites me most of all. @Buccaneer, have you considered open sourcing the WUD software on Github or another platform at the very least? A few arguments in favor would be:

1. Prevent this key piece of software from becoming abandonware for EBL owners in the far future with no ability to access the source code.
2. Allow the community to update the software for future Windows versions. As we all know Windows 18 in 2045 will likely not support the EBL WUD as-is.
3. Linux, Mac/OS, Android, etc support could also be added by the community. As a full time Linux user for the past four years I'd love to work on porting this software to a native Linux solution. I made a post back in 2017 about how to get it working on Wine but I haven't tested to see if it still works: https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/diy-...p-display.html

 

Well said, and very good points. To draw a parallel with the maker community, making source code libraries available has also made good economic sense for hardware suppliers, as it drops the price point and learning curve for everyone. And it's a self reinforcing dynamic. Especially when people dont have to actually flash chips, or uv erase anymore with ebl. Let's get this future proofed and create a whole ecology around the ebl. Maybe market as open-source generic EFI. Not just a gm plug and play thing.

 

Thanks all, much appreciated. I have gotten with another person on the programming side of things and we have already started building the test boxes. We also have talked and thrown around ideas about making some good, and well needed improvements to the software (WUD) to make it more useful. As far as making it Open source, that may not happen, at least for now anyway. I have way too much to do to get the EBL back up and running after having a 14+ month hiatus so far. It also looks like the Renegade 2.0 project may run along side the EBL at the same time which I was not anticipating and complicates things a bit, but it is moving along. Until next time.

 

I completely understand that getting things up and running is the priority. You are running a business after all and I completely respect that. I just wanted to plant the idea of open sourcing the software in your mind so that maybe someday the community would have access. It may also allow you focus on the hardware portion of the business and need to invest less in software over time.

I also want to personally thank you for taking the time and effort to revive this project. People like you keep cars like ours alive and I greatly appreciate that.

 

See your PM.

 

A little update on the Bob Rauscher situation beside the Dynamic EFI that Tom is doing.

This weekend Bob Valentine and I purchased Bob R's 67 Firebird and Bruce Plecan's (Grumpy) Grand National from the estate, along with a pile of parts and such. They're moved to Iowa, and over the next few months we'll assess their overall condition and what help they need. I'll try to post up some photos of them in the next week or so after they're cleaned up.

 

Glad everything went well for you Scott on the cars. Hope to see some pics when you are done. Another shout out to Bob for taking the time to help me along with yourself in PA as well.

 

Holy cow, I've been away far too long. Sorry to hear of his passing, he was a great help to me over the phone and living close to him was a help. I am still in PA, and run the SFI-6, though the car is down. In any case, nice to see that this will continue forward.

 

I sure hope it's going well. I'm still using my EBL P4-keep retuning as I add mods and love it. I've wanted to recommend it to other folk so it would be great to see you bring it back and make it available.

 

well, the deal close date had to be pushed back a couple weeks so that the attorney to attorney legal paperwork will be finished before I leave for PA. The new date is the weekend of March 14/15. I have already made the hotel reservations for the trip and getting loose ends tided up before leaving. As far as the P4 mod goes, we shall see. I feel it may have a comeback, but it will take a backseat to just the EBLs that need to go out to folks as soon as possible.

My engineering team is already busy at work getting things done and creating ideas for a better EBL product. Software updates will come next to improve things a bit as well. I have TONS of things to do and plan for. Today, I was at a local electronics company looking into the idea of doing everything here locally for much better quality control and I have a appointment with them next week to discuss things. I hope this helps a little bit. Thank you.

 

Hope it goes well in March

 

Thank you and some GREAT NEWS to report today! My attorney sent me the finalized doc for the Dynamic EFI purchase agreement and was signed. Doc sent to Dynamic EFI and all hotel reservations have been made for the trip. This is awesome that it is happening and a little sooner than actually expected. So, unless some crazy thing comes up, it should be a done deal on March 14th.

 

Cool! Looking forward to seeing what happens with this.

 

Glad to hear that the EBL is being taken over. I purchased the EBL Flash for my bird a few years ago and BobR was a huge help on multiple occasions. I'm looking forward to some of the software updates you and your engineering team decide on. I'm not sure how feasible it would be, but Flex Fuel support would be a game changer for us boosted guys.

 

Congratulations!

 

that's great news...

"My engineering team is already busy at work getting things done and creating ideas for a better EBL product. Software updates will come next to improve things a bit as well."

do you have some thoughts to share on what near term enhancements you are thinking of?

 

That's funny actually, we have talked about this a bit and that "may" be doable, but we have to wait on closing the deal and then pour over schematics, diagrams etc to see what exactly we can improve on in the way of add ons or just replacements to improve things. There will be software changes, small, but needed a long time ago. As far as really saying all what we are going to do, I can't really talk about that right now, but as time goes on, I feel very confident that it will be on my Blog page.

 

Really glad to hear this. The EBL system really is a perfect fit for 80s and 90s GM vehicles. Way cheaper and more straightforward to set up than any other standalone EFI. I've got my H/C/I swapped 85 running like a dream on Flash II.

 

Word has it that Dynamic EFI has been acquired by the owner of X-Fire Performance (www.xfireperformance.com). According to sources, X-Fire Performance will be resuming production of the EBL Flash II for Crossfire and TBI fuel injection systems. Sounds like availability is anticipated sometime in Q4 of this year.
Any truth to the rumor Buccaneer?

 

I spoke with Tom a couple hours ago, he confirmed it's all done. He's on his way back from finishing the deal.

 

YES! I did talk with Scott last night. The purchase deal of Dynamic EFI is now complete and I'm now the new owner. I'm traveling back to Arizona and currently in Ohio, next stop MO. I should be back Wed. When I return, the real work really starts. I have a ton of things to go through and get organized. My Blog will have the latest info on all of this as I move forward.

My Engineering department is busy working on some new test equipment while I've been gone. Once I get back with the schematics, we should be able to finish that up somewhat quickly. My engineer will not be happy with me with all the parts that needs to be gone through. Sorry! You will get overtime.

 

There has been a delay in my travels. I'm stuck in Ohio because of snow storms to the West. Hopefully I will be able to get going tomorrow.

 

Suggestion for an upgrade...

Allow for uploading a calibration without having to shut the engine off.

I had contemplated getting an EBL earlier on, but the lack of that capability was something that made me hesitant.

7730 + Ostrich II allows for uploading without shutting the engine off. It's an extremely convenient feature for tuning on the fly.... especially when trying to dial in the AE fueling

 

[QUOTE=ULTM8Z;6581546]Suggestion for an upgrade...

Allow for uploading a calibration without having to shut the engine off.

With my EBL Flash I can upload a tune without shutting off the engine. I've done it many times. It will just go into limp mode for about two seconds while loading. You feel a slight stumble but no big deal. I've done it while moving, I just coast for a few seconds while it loads.

 

So, funny you both mention this process for updating the ECM while tuning without shutting down the system. We have discussed this in general terms in relation to the PIC, coding etc...and a few ideas on how this might be done and work. This is something will will more than likely look at but it will be down the road a bit. The EBL just needs to get back into circulation first and then the beta testing on new improvements as we move along.

If you have some suggestions on how you think that can be accomplished, let me know and will check it out.

 

safe travels, congratulations as well