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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Camaro at ARD

After sitting for three years, I have dropped my car off at Owen's shop for my engine swap. Hopefully it should be ready by the beginning of february
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 07:23 PM
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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Way COOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What all is he gonna do? straight swap? build up the motor?--tranny? any suspension stuff? NOZ?

Did U figure out what U ae going to do with all the old leftover parts and pieces? What all kind of stuff do U have to get rid of anyway?

Pretty soon U will be :
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 12:04 AM
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LS1 swap, Stage 2 heads, 228-230 cam, F.A.S.T. intake. I am also trading the 700R4 for a turbo350. No nitrous for now, I may do the suspension at the same time since I will hold off on the body work for a while.
As far as leftovers I believe it is ESC with the 82 camaro who showed interest in the engine and serpentine setup.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:07 AM
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Sounds good. I'm doing almost the same thing on mine....except I'm doing the work.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 07:43 AM
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Sounds good. I'm doing almost the same thing on mine....except I'm doing the work.
yours still isnt up and going? we were talking about this back in august when i dropped mine off to get it done. Damn boy , get a move on! j/k
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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As far as leftovers I believe it is ESC with the 82 camaro who showed interest in the engine and serpentine setup.
Yep, that was me, and I'm still interested.
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Old Dec 19, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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Re: Camaro at ARD

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After sitting for three years, I have dropped my car off at Owen's shop for my engine swap. Hopefully it should be ready by the beginning of february
Wow, sounds pretty sweet and expensive. If we have a spring meet maybe that will be the debut of your car.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 12:36 AM
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I can tell you that it is no where near the price other shops were quoting me. I can actually use the extra money to do my suspension at the same time. I plan to hold off on the needed body work until I get a house probably in a year. I would suggest to anyone that if you plan on an LS1 swap talk to Owen at ARD, he is a very nice guy and gave me a very reasonable quote for my swap.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 08:10 AM
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4.8 or 5.3 heads and 5.7 or 6.0 liter ?
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 04:40 PM
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4.8 or 5.3 heads and 5.7 or 6.0 liter ?
OK I know I'm showing my ignorance here. I know from talking to Daniel at the last monthly, that he is going with the aluminum 5.7--350CI, but I am not familiar with the different heads--does that refer to combustion chamber/runner size?
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 04:54 PM
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4.8 and 5.3 refers to heads that have come off of a 4.8 liter chevy truck v8 engine or the 5.3 liter chevy truck head.

LS-X intakes will bolt upto the chevy truck heads.

Hope that helps.
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Old Dec 20, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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4.8 and 5.3 refers to heads that have come off of a 4.8 liter chevy truck v8 engine or the 5.3 liter chevy truck head.

LS-X intakes will bolt upto the chevy truck heads.

Hope that helps.
Are they a better head choice than the stock LS-1 heads?

Smaller combustion chamber/higher compression maybe?
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 06:11 AM
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the aluminum 5.7 is a 346ci, the 6 litre is a iron block but a 364 ci. 4.8 and 5.3 heads have smaller combustion chambers but also have smaller valves and runners. stock size in a 5.7 or 6.0 is a 2 inch valve where in the 5.3 or 4.8 is a 1.88 valve
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Red92RS
LS1 swap, Stage 2 heads, 228-230 cam, F.A.S.T. intake. I am also trading the 700R4 for a turbo350. No nitrous for now, I may do the suspension at the same time since I will hold off on the body work for a while.
As far as leftovers I believe it is ESC with the 82 camaro who showed interest in the engine and serpentine setup.
Wow cool, I guess times are good. I cant wait to see what it runs.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 09:23 AM
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Other differences in the heads are open chambers vs. closed chambers and combustion chamber size.

I prefer the LS-6 heads or if money is no object, C5-R heads.
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Old Dec 21, 2005 | 10:07 AM
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Originally posted by 1bad91Z
Other differences in the heads are open chambers vs. closed chambers and combustion chamber size.

I prefer the LS-6 heads or if money is no object, C5-R heads.
OK--another stupid question--what is a open chamber--closed chamber head?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 02:01 PM
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the only stupid questions are the ones don't know & you don't ask about,.. you don't know this one & you asked, so its not a stupid question
you probably do know it,.. but you just don't realize it

with everything else being even, a motor can breath better with open chamber heads than it can with closed chamber heads because the valves are unshrouded on the open chamber heads.

a lot of people will put on a set of closed chamber heads to bump up compression when they have either dish or flat top pistons.
as far as i know, you can't put a set of closed chambers heads on a motor than has domed pistons designed for open chamber heads. if you have too much compression, you can put open chamber heads on closed chamber designed domed pistons, but that can sometimes cause other problems such as detonation.

if you can view them, here are some pics of BBC open & closed heads.

http://www.anycities.com/user1/jakeshoe/

a side by side view of open vs closed f*rd heads.

http://www.boss351.org/cylhead.htm

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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 02:57 PM
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Ahhh......I see said the blind man!

Thanks for the explanation!
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 03:22 PM
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Where are yall getting your engines?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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Where are yall getting your engines?
No one particular place. In Daniels case, Owen @ARD is building up his LS-1, and doing the swap/install and the tranny rebuild and anything else getting done at the same time. Owen is pretty sharp all the way across the board.

I myself use a local machine shop called Westside Performance--one of the better shops in Houston. They build a lot of drag and roundy round engines.
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 05:16 PM
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These places have LS_ engines in stock?
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Old Dec 27, 2005 | 11:25 PM
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If Owen doesn't have any in stock I am sure he could locate one for you at a good price.
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I just waited for a 4th gen owner on a local board to wreck. It happens all the time.

They buy back their totaled car and part it out. I got my LS1/t-56 harness for 3k.
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Originally posted by NoItsNotForSale
These places have LS_ engines in stock?
No--built to order. If U are still looking for a "crate engine" source, this is not it, but I'm sure he could hook U up, if U are willing to come down here.
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he can have are re-mqn shortblock or longblock for you ready assembled for pickup ansd with a 1 year 12k warranty that will knock your socks off. and it will beat any price of anything you will find. honed , cleaned with new rings and bearings. honestly anythingyou want and you will save a buttload of cash
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Can I get a phone number?
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Re: Camaro at ARD

Originally posted by Red92RS
After sitting for three years, I have dropped my car off at Owen's shop for my engine swap. Hopefully it should be ready by the beginning of february

So how is it going, any progress? Have you been over to check on it?
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 02:03 AM
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we still have some parts to order but i will let everybody know of the progress as it happens. I went up to his shop today to clean out the rest of the junk sitting in my car and Owen is building some sweet cars, I haven't always been a mustang fan but he is building a CRAZY one in his shop.
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Old Jan 6, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Red92RS
we still have some parts to order but i will let everybody know of the progress as it happens. I went up to his shop today to clean out the rest of the junk sitting in my car and Owen is building some sweet cars, I haven't always been a mustang fan but he is building a CRAZY one in his shop.
A Mustang...traitor....LOL......Oh well he's gotta make a living!.... How crazy is it!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 10:32 PM
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they began taking the motor out last night bye bye 305
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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Anybody needing performance parts check Thunder Racing by this Friday, they are running a special 10% discount on select items. I just ordered my Tokico illumina shocks and struts, Eibach Prokit, and BMR 3 pt Strut tower brace and saved some money
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Estimate on the cost excluding the engine and electronics purchase price?
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 08:15 AM
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Anybody needing performance parts check Thunder Racing by this Friday, they are running a special 10% discount on select items. I just ordered my Tokico illumina shocks and struts, Eibach Prokit, and BMR 3 pt Strut tower brace and saved some money
I got an email from thunder racing where they are offereing a 350 crate motor with 400 hp for $2995 with a one year 10,000 mile warranty!! Sounds like a heluva deal. Maybe Ill get me one of those and put it it Maxs car, I know he would like that.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 04:38 PM
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Not worth much in a thirdgen if you live in the metropolitan areas of Texas. No chance at being emissions leagle.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:10 AM
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Not worth much in a thirdgen if you live in the metropolitan areas of Texas. No chance at being emissions leagle.
There are ways around that!
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:25 AM
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Yes there are ways around "that" but I have no desire to rip the car apart to run a carburator and toss all of the emissioins in the trash can. I can take it locally and get it inspected (in the family thing) but that is not what I want. Trick Flow heads, LT4 hot cam and headers should get the car to where I want it with the problem being the intake system. The LT1 intake seems to be the best option for performance vs bucks. The only real problem is the egr, I think it was killjoy on here that fabricated a functioning egr connection to the back of the intake. I work with some tube benders that maybe able to fabricate something from stainless for me but I am not far enough along to persue that option. The TPI will have to stay as is until I decide on the best undesirable option.
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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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StevenK...your LS1 is actually the best answer to it all.
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:14 PM
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StevenK...your LS1 is actually the best answer to it all.
Yeah, until you see how much money I've wasted
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Old Jan 21, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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Yeah the ls1 engines are still up in price. The lt1 seems to be lower lately, there is one on ebay with t56 at a reasonable price and it is killing me, spring bonus check has not arrived. Just have to decide on lt1 or build what I have and the lt1 keeps looking better and better.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 04:15 PM
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ARD?

been reading about ARD in several posts, is this their real shop name or abbreviation. Do they have a web site ??
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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I had the same question and looked it up. I think someone here used the name. Here is a link. I was looking into there general pricing info for a swap less the drive train hardware but found no info other than a phone number.

http://www.advancedracingdynamics.com/main.shtml
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by net_coma
I had the same question and looked it up. I think someone here used the name. Here is a link. I was looking into there general pricing info for a swap less the drive train hardware but found no info other than a phone number.

http://www.advancedracingdynamics.com/main.shtml
U need to call and talk to OWEN!
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:54 AM
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That is their old website and they have a different location than listed on there also. Like Zap said give Owen a call.
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Is the place located in Houston so I can find a number....I am near Fort Worth.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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