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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Low 13's at almost 105mph...not bad!

Low 13's at almost 105mph with just a 5-6psi Vortech supercharger and a 3" mandrel bent catback. Yeah, the MSD ignition and drag radials helped a bit too. Not Bad! Stock LS1 territory right there.

Hmmmm... I wonder what a ATI procharger running higher boost and some headers would've done? They probably could've broke well into the 12's at 110+.

That is, if the cars were truly 100% stock. No cam or hi flow base slipped in. They looked stock original to me though.

What'd think??
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Old Jan 5, 2005 | 11:52 PM
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I think they were stock, if they had a bigger cam and heads, i would think they would dyno higher than 320.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:06 AM
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I would like to catch them at the track and whoop their asses
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:13 AM
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I would like to catch them at the track and whoop their asses
Thats funny, everytime I read the last line of ur sig, I think the same thing...

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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:34 AM
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Re: Low 13's at almost 105mph...not bad!

Originally posted by Mikos_89
That is, if the cars were truly 100% stock. No cam or hi flow base slipped in. They looked stock original to me though.

What'd think??
The "before" dyno numbers pretty much confirmed they were stock. Those numbers were correct, maybe even a hair low, for an '88 5.7/700R4. Ask me how I know.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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I wonder if the white car had 3.27 gears and the red car had 2.77 gears because of the t-tops. That would explain the huge difference in ET's. Or the red car drivers could just be that bad.

I love how they hyped up the "custom race radiator" so much. They acted like the car would overheat just sitting on the starting line if it didnt have their special radiator in it.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Also stock LS1s do not run in the low 13s, though the LS1 guys would like to have you believe that

*yes a stock LS1 motor, but not a stock LS1 f-body
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 11:26 AM
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i think the guys in the red car should have left it in drive cause unless you know when to shift the car your going to shift at the wrong time. the guys in the white car started going way faster when they just left it in drive.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin91Z
I wonder if the white car had 3.27 gears and the red car had 2.77 gears because of the t-tops. That would explain the huge difference in ET's. Or the red car drivers could just be that bad.
I think it was more driver error. In the first run, both teams were shifting manually and they both ran mid to low 14's.

In the second run, the red team continued to shift by hand while the white team chose to let the trans shift itself. The difference was night and day at that point.

The guys on the red team were either shifting too soon or waaaay too late. Plus, the factory shifter is a pain to shift by hand, as they learned and the in-car camera footage showed.
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Old Jan 6, 2005 | 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
Plus, the factory shifter is a pain to shift by hand, as they learned and the in-car camera footage showed.
I know of a compnay that will be offering a solution to that.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Originally posted by 8T8IROC
Also stock LS1s do not run in the low 13s, though the LS1 guys would like to have you believe that

*yes a stock LS1 motor, but not a stock LS1 f-body
Yah, they run high 12's, as GMHTP magazine proved with a 12.96 in a 98 Camaro SS way back when.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:18 AM
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stock, straight from a GM delivery truck to a track, with no stops for 'little' mods?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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The before dyno numbers showed a 10hp advantage for the white car.
Don't know if it made as much a diff as shown on the track, but the blower could give the white car almost a 20hp avantage.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by Kevin91Z
Yah, they run high 12's, as GMHTP magazine proved with a 12.96 in a 98 Camaro SS way back when.
Where did GMHTP get the car to test? The car manufacturers are famous for slipping "ringers" to the magazines for test purposes to get a better write up or better performance. Generally the magazine guys accept whatever the manufacturer sends over as stock. The only way to be sure there was no cheating by the manufacturer is for the mag to go buy a car anonymously from a dealer and run the test, but the mags don't have that kind of budget.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 05:18 PM
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Those who are in the LS1 scene know what there true potential is. Having said that, I know of a 2002 Z28 M6 that ran 12.4s @ 112 at Ca Dragway. All he had was a lid, cutout and ET Streets. My SS ran a 13.7 (with a 2.1 60') at Carlsbad raceway with just a lid and Goodyear F1s in the hot summer. With cooler weather and a better launch it would have gone 13.4s
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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All he had was...

Wasnt that 12.999999 with slicks?
Fast regardless, but there is no such thing as stock. I've heard of 05 Stangs running the fine line of 12-13.0 and most I've seen in normal unmodified trim run at least .5 slower (and generally more). I guess with enough seat time, adjustments, good weather, and accidentally slipping on a set of stickies you can accomplish some pretty amazing things.
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