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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 04:38 PM
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anyone with a spohn torque arm step inside.

I know that there is an adjustment on the front of the ta and I have mine as short as possible. Should this be unscrewed so that the arm is longer? There is a bracket with a bolt that runs through it and can be adjusted back and forth. I just read an article on torque arms can be too short. Too short causes worse 60' times.
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 04:06 PM
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Uh, there shouldn't be any adjustment at the front of the t-arm. That bracket is there to allow for forward and backward travel of the arm as the suspension moves.

Which version of the Spohn t-arm do you have? I have the first generation version with the slip-tube design.

Steve designed these arms as a "direct fit" so there's no adjusting the length. Besides there's no need to. The arm simply controls the torque of the rear axle so more power gets put to the tires.
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 05:01 PM
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the only adj. you should have to make is in the rear, you adj. the pinion angle there. the front sshould be able to move freely. to adj the rear you use the angle finder that came with the TA. the directions from spohn should tell you exactly how to do that, if you don't have that, i can explain it.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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I agree with the comments made so far. There is no adjustment for length. The arm has to have a bit of give in length as the rear end rotates or it would bind. The stock torque arm also allows a bit of give as the front mount point slides forward and back in the rubber or polyurethane mount. The only adjustment is for pinion angle of the rear end. Lon
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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That makes sense guys but for some reason there is an adjustment on the front of the ta. I'll just leave that alone if it's not for anything. Also, I haven't had my car to the track yet since I put the ta on but it seems that it spins more since I put it on and set it to -4 degrees.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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There's not really an adjustment on the front of the T-arm. It's just that when Setve redesigned it, he threaded the tube so it can accept either the poly bushing or the rod end. This also allows for easy replacement when the bushing or rod end wears out.

-4 is waaay to much pinion angle for street use. That's better saved for the track. On the street I run -1. Steve's directions will say the same thing.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:26 PM
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Axle/Gears: 3.45, 3.27, 3.27
The torque arm is only half the equation. If you've lowered the car you need LCA relocation brackets to correct the geometry. Otherwise the rear end will rotate way too easily causing bad traction and wheel hop. Both are hard on the driveline components. Lon
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:40 PM
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I have lca relocation brackets, Lakewood lca's, poly bushings, subframe connectors, and a spohn torque arm. I still spin badly. I just expected more out of the torque arm.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 04:54 PM
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What tires are you using?

The T-arm won't eliminate wheel spin. It controls the rear end and gets more power to the wheels. If your tires can't/won't hook-up then you need to try BFG Drag Radials or MT E.T. Streets.
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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I am using bfg drag radials on the street and MT et drags at the strip and am only getting 1.8 60' times. Still spinning!
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 06:21 PM
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I'm guessing I have about 500 hp with juice but I still think that the 60' times should be lower than 1.8 and 1.9. The car has ran 12.36 at 110 with the MT et drags. The size is 26 tall and 8.5 wide. I am getting them really hot on the burnout also. Shouldn't slicks and all the suspension stuff make me get about a 1.6? 60' time?
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 06:42 PM
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Man, you should be hooking up. I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe try some wider rims/slicks in back, like 10" instead of 8.5".

How are you launching the car?
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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You're not hitting the NOS off the line are you?
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Old Jul 12, 2002 | 10:22 PM
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Right off the line I'm not hitting the button but mid way through first gear I hit it. Sometimes I wait until the end of first. The funny thing is that the best 60' time I've had is when I hit it right off the line. I spun sideways and the 60' time is 1.8. I'm not sure what to do except for trying some wider and taller tires like BretD said.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 08:45 AM
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Sorry I lost my instructions....

When you say you have the pinion angle at -1*, does that mean the front of the pinion is lower? or higher? Just put my TA on last night, didn't get a chance to use the gauge or to drive the car as the engine swap isn't quite there yet.....
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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Re: Sorry I lost my instructions....

Originally posted by Roc87
When you say you have the pinion angle at -1*, does that mean the front of the pinion is lower? or higher?
The front of the pinion should be lower.
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Old Jul 18, 2002 | 10:34 PM
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That's what I figured, but with my luck, I can never be too sure
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