Guys, I hear all this about these "wonderbars". First of all what are they (I dont really know so thought I would ask) and do they make much of a difference to steering/suspension.

Thanks,

 

Not a huge difference, but for between $15 and $35 depending on where you pick one up at, it's a good dollar-for-dollar mod.

It's basically a bar that sandwiches between the swaybar bushings and the front subframe and ties them together.

 

I e-mailed you info about the version I am selling that will explain its function. Also included my Price List. Sorry about the file size being so large. E-mail me if you have any other questions regarding a Steering Brace (aka Wonder Bar).

Lon

 

I'm selling one on ebay right now, POR-15 coated and all. Search for ebmiller88.

Sorry Lon...

I noticed a difference right away when I put one on my '91 RS.

Ed

 

Not a problem Ed. I've shipped 7 this week so far. Less than 12 left in stock. Lon

 

Definately well worth it, especially if you have t-tops. You will most certainly notice your front end being tighter.

 

Hey lonsal could you throw that list my way. I am always looking for stuff to put on my car.

 

A wonderbar will do for your car what a wonderbra will do for your girlfriend. They both stiffen your front end. (dong..)

 

I see you believe in recycling too.

Sure, Lon.

 

LMAO

 

Will this help my frame from twisting when I turn the wheel hard left to lock? It seems the power steering twists my frame when the car is on jack stands. What the hell????

 

Some 3rd gens. have experienced stress cracks in the sub-frame at the steering box mounting point and the wonderbar helps prevent this. It also ties the front sub-frame rails together and helps stiffen up the front end. It's a good inexpensive mod.

 

Here is a picture of TDS 105021 Steering Brace for 1983-92 F-bodies, $40. E-mail me at: topdownsolutions@yahoo.com to order it.

Lon

 

Looks pretty basic to me. Pretty cheap to make I think.

 

thanxs a bunch guys.....I ha no idea what i got.....i've got one sitting in my shed and didn't even know it....i guess i got some more stuff to add to the front end.....sweet....

chris.

 

lon is the wonderbar that you make the same as the OEM?or is it a heavier gage steel?

 

Comparable materials were used. 10 gage HRS for the mount pads and .75" OD 11 ga HREW tubing. Mine has a longer weld length. Also the GM version has the formed lip turned up, which can trap more dirt and debris. I designed mine that the formed lip is pointed down. GM Version, is painted. Mine is powder-coated which is a more durable finish. Only 3 left in stock as of today.

Lon

 

I made one. Probably overkill though. 3/16" thick brackets and 1" x 0.100" thick tube. Made one for another guy too.

 

Yours looks close to Global west's design. Good job.

Here's the way I see it when the question is asked if they are worth it-- GM would not have gone through the trouble of putting one on the Iroc's stock if they didn't feel it was important. The fact is that they did add it for a reason--- The frames will crack under heavier cornering loads via wider tires on the Iroc's sport package. Anyone running their car hard in corners should definately purchase one.

 

Good enough to sell?

 

sure cheezex i'll buy one

 

I think I've got one of those on my car but I didn't install it. Do they go between the radiator and the crossmember? I know there's 1 like 2 inches in front of the crossmember but that's for the steering, but then there's the one probably about 5-6 inches away from the crossmember, and 1-2 inches away from the bottom of the radiator. Is that it?

 

Really?

The bar mounts between the swaybar brackets and the frame. Its the one closest to the radiator in front of the swaybar.

 

sure why not as long as i dont get so bored i fabricate one


Im sure others would too

 

ok you can order them online at www.maniacmotor.com.
ignore the celica stuff. I'm in Vancouver so shipping should be cheap