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Old Nov 24, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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aftermarket tie rods?

is there any good aftermarket tie rods i can get that are better then stock replacement? i need to start rebuilding my front end, and i want to use the best parts.. not super expensive, but better then stock if possible. thanks!
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 02:11 AM
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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Or if you plan to lower your car, you can correct the geometry of your tierods with the Baer bumpsteer kit. Dont want to read about people who bought new Moog tierods and a bumpsteer kit and then have to sell the Moog tierods off later.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 11:28 PM
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can the baer bumpstop kits be used on a stock height car?? so when i lower it in the future i won't have to buy more parts?
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:21 AM
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I'm thinking about making my own tie rods using aircraft rod ends. I'm just not sure what size rod ends would be strong enough to hold up on a 3500 pound street driven car.

I own a machine shop and make an adapter for one of my customers that builds tubular replacement front a-arms for Yamaha Banshee's. It's got a taper on one end to match the spindle hole, and the other end is male to slip into the rod end, and is drilled for a 1/2 x 20 bolt. I would think the rod ends would be more responsive to driver input that the stock tie rod ends are.

Anyway your post got me to thinking, which in my case is very dangerous!!
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by alloy
I'm thinking about making my own tie rods using aircraft rod ends. I'm just not sure what size rod ends would be strong enough to hold up on a 3500 pound street driven car.

I own a machine shop and make an adapter for one of my customers that builds tubular replacement front a-arms for Yamaha Banshee's. It's got a taper on one end to match the spindle hole, and the other end is male to slip into the rod end, and is drilled for a 1/2 x 20 bolt. I would think the rod ends would be more responsive to driver input that the stock tie rod ends are.

Anyway your post got me to thinking, which in my case is very dangerous!!
I would recommend at least a 5/8" rod end and would feel most comfortale with a 3/4" ( Using the best quality rod ends availible). If I could show you how I "tear" rod ends out of my '89 chev 1/2 ton truck's endlink setup it would scare the hell out of you. I use 1/2" hardened chromemoly end back to back and destroy them at least a set per year.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:05 PM
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I was thinking about 3/4" rod ends. But for the good ones with jam nuts, they are $50 each. That's $200 for 4 rod ends. Then I have to make the tie rod on my turning center. So not sure if the performance gain would be worth it. But sure would look cool though. If I did this, I'd love to be there when the alignment shop first saw them. I'm sure the look on their faces would be priceless.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by breathment
can the baer bumpstop kits be used on a stock height car?? so when i lower it in the future i won't have to buy more parts?
Yes they are adjustable.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 02:30 PM
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I'd love to be there when the alignment shop first saw them. I'm sure the look on their faces would be priceless.
LOL, the only time my car has been at a shop, the put it on the lift, and the mechanic said "HOLY S***, what the F*** did you do to this thing" and his jaw dropped, he told me it was the coolest camaro he had ever had in his shop

gotta love the modified suspension
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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That's funny. About 15 years ago a buddy of mine had a 69 Z28 with the DZ 302 engine, and took it in for some work . He was sitting at a burger joint and saw some guy in his car doing a burnout at a stop light. Boy, there was hell to pay when he got to the shop where the car was. I know, I drove him there. Man he was pissed!!!!!

Then, of all things he didn't put anti freeze in the engine that winter and let the block freeze and break. I got the motor for $150, got another block, rebuilt it, had the short block and heads with intake sitting in my garage, and some a**holes stole it, and cleaned my garage out. Never did find it. I think it was some guys that were there buying a muncie from me a couple of weeks prior to the break in.
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 06:36 PM
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Moog tie rods and ball joints.

MAKE SURE you replace the crappy stock adjusting sleeves for solid sleeves. Makes a considerable difference.
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