I was wondering if someone could give me some input on them.

My question(s) are if they really made a difference in the quarter mile area besides the weight reduction? Because I can get a setup real cheap off of a friend of mine who is goin to an all out race suspension.

Thanks

 

I've checked into this extensively. My opinion is that if it is a roadrace or a fulltime street car, I would not recommend the front coilovers unless you weld up mor suport to the upper strut mount area of the inner fender. It is not designed to hold the cars cornering force AND the weight of the vehicle. The can area where the front upper springs rest stock are what hold up the car, not the strut mount like coilovers will result. They will fail over time if not futher supported.

 

Thanks for the input AFGT but this will be pretty much a strip only car. I really want to know if they are better or just as good as the moroso trick springs with 90/10's.......My buddy says they are but I just wanted some views from people who run this type of setup....More then likely I'll go with this setup cause i like the idea of the weight loss but if someone could give me some insight it would be very appreciated thanks again........

 

What setup? I'm sure there are a couple of manufactures who sell kits for a third gen. You need a kit that puts a spring over the front strut so you still need the 90/10 struts. www.paracing.net sells a kit.

A generic coilover shock system needs a framework fabricated for somewhere to support the car from.

As mentioned above the inner fender where the top of the strut mounts will need to carry the weight of the car. A strip only car will be fine but I also wouldn't reccomend it for street use unless the inner fender is reinforced.

 

It is the art morrison setup and there he already has the lakewood 90/10's in it already so that is a plus but he didn't say anything about reinforcing the strut mounts but I'll check into that....Stephen do you run this setup? And if you do does it lift the front like the trick springs?Thanks

 

So do you consider welding up the strut mount area at the seams and what not would be good enough? Cause I was considering doing the coil over conversion yet I drift and take turns hard. What means of reinforcement do you think I should do? Thanks.

 

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Um German? I don't know what made you laugh but the question that I'm trying to get answered is very easy.....IS this the ideal suspension for DRAG RACING!!!!

 

That's a picture of a good front coil over system for a third gen.

My front suspension is roughly still stock. I use Koni SPA1 struts and V6 springs. Other than that, everything is stock.

 

A strut tower brace would probably be a good idea. It will help transfer the forces to other parts of the body.

 

I'm taking this as an implication that my research doesn't mean squat because I don't own the setup and I don't know what I am talking about. I happen to see alterations in the stock can area via fabricated plate and welds to back my theory. Your car is not stock in support and your picture proves it. Sorry to humour you. I'd like to see a picture of the top side?

 

I have the same Art Morrison kit on my car and the plate is not welded in it bolts in with the factory bolts on top of the body and under the strut mounts.

Jerry

 

I am refering to his stock can area, not the upper strut mount plate. His is modified- Yours is not.

 

This is a friendly word of caution, I'm not trying to ridicule your work.

 

Do you know anyone who has broken the body in the strut mount area with a coilover kit and how about some pointers on how it did so i can watch for it.


Jerry

 

Wow that was fast

Jerry

 

I could think of better stuff, but at the time the PA coilover is the drag kit you need and want!
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Jerry, do you race your car 1/4 mile if so did this help improve your 60' times dramatically or what? Thanks

 

1QWIKZ:

I first had the Ei-bach drag spring kit with an air bag on the car and it was O.K. for street use (1.84 60ft with a 12.48 at pomona). With the weight reduction I have done, the front end (200 lbs ) ride height started to get too high, and with no way to change it short of cutting the springs, that is the reason I got the A.M. kit.

The A.M. coilover kit has a stiffer spring rate than the Ei-bach drag springs, so the street handling is better with the coilover kit. The next trip to the track I also installed a Dana 44 with 3.73 gears ( had 3.23 in the 10 bolt) at the same time. Now it runs 1.70 60 ft with a 12.52 at Fontana. This was all done with a stock 105k old long block, trans, torque arm, rear control arms and a 2400 stall 12 inch converter.

If your car is for everyday use and long trips than you have to plan your mods for that. My car is more of a street race car so I will be the test car for strut tower breakage on the street.

Jerry

 

Thank you very much for replying! My car is also more of strip car but it will be driven on the street here and there....So it sounds like it works so I will go ahead and purchase it from him....Also how long have you been running on the street with this setup? Curious?